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Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

Paul Zuvella posted:

Wait, Terrence Ross is good and on an amazing contract what are the Raptors doing????

Maybe related to

https://twitter.com/mcten/status/831534208787025922

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Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

boxcarhobo posted:

maybe they think serge is the key to making a run?? Wasn't serge kinda floundering out in orlando tho, i really haven't paid attention to them this season

Naw, Serge is good still. He is at least playing better than he did in OKC last year. Id say he's still better than Ross, but trading a good wing on a good contract AND a first round pick for a one year rental of serge seems like a bad idea.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Paul Zuvella posted:

Wait, Terrence Ross is good and on an amazing contract what are the Raptors doing????

They got Powell to take Ross's minutes.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012
I like it!

Paul Zuvella posted:

Wait, Terrence Ross is good and on an amazing contract what are the Raptors doing????
He's ok. He started off the year quite hot but like many Raptors has cooled off some. He's a good bench player, and good bench player for good starter at a position and role that we definitely need is a good trade.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Normen Power is arguably their best wing at times, Ross is a bench guy scorer and that's about it. The Raptors main weakness is that they have literally no good 4's when Patterson is out, and this allows the Raptors for some awesome "small" ball with Ibaka at the 5 and Patterson at the 4 against the Cavs.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

NBA journos think Ross is bad and Nurkic is good. What is this, 2014?

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012
Normen Power

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Kibner posted:

They got Powell to take Ross's minutes.

True, but Powell can't really play against bigger wings at Small forward. Terrence Ross was probably the Raptors best asset and this just seems like a poor way of spending it. I do think the raptors are better than they were before the trade but I don't think by that much.

Bush Did Outer Heaven
Jan 18, 2005

The Sweetest Payne
Serge boutta get paaaaaid, and good on him.

also, all said and done Orlando paid 15 draft spots and whatever minor difference there is between Oladipo and Ross to take a run at the 8 seed with Serge. It was a fuckup, but this could've ended worse for them.

Bush Did Outer Heaven fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Feb 14, 2017

Jota
May 6, 2003

uga-booga uga-booga
Raptors have the rights to the Clippers pick this year. Not a huge difference in their records right now but I wonder which they included in the deal.

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream

the tae spelling meme

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Way to go Orlando also getting the first out of that, Ross for Serge is a pretty fair deal by itself. The pick will probably be 25th or something so not a big deal.

This is what it looks like to try and make a run for Toronto. Its a good move, East got more interesting.

Jota
May 6, 2003

uga-booga uga-booga
Also if Toronto was interested in signing Serge, they didn't have the cap space to do so without making a trade. Ross is solid but they don't really have a lot of assets to use and keep the team they have together to make a run. Assuming that they can resign Serge in the offseason this isn't a bad deal for either side.

Jota fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Feb 14, 2017

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

Jota posted:

Raptors have the rights to the Clippers pick this year. Not a huge difference in their records right now but I wonder which they included in the deal.

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/831536847859904513

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Ok, Toronto would have likely have little use in two lovely first round picks next year, it's not like they'd give 2 rookies burn time making a ECF push.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

I really wish people would use the terms "worse" or "better" instead of the ambiguous "low" or "high" when referring to draft picks.

houstonguy
Jun 2, 2005

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion
Wanted Serge on the Rockets. Oh well, if Orlando was determined to get a good wing out of it, there wasn't really much Houston could do without being put into a position where KJ McDaniels gets big minutes.

So if Toronto re-signs Serge and Lowry, they are capped out for the foreseeable future, right?

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967

Paul Zuvella posted:

Wait, Terrence Ross is good and on an amazing contract what are the Raptors doing????

Attempting to lock up that #3 seed

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Sheriff posted:

Wanted Serge on the Rockets. Oh well, if Orlando was determined to get a good wing out of it, there wasn't really much Houston could do without being put into a position where KJ McDaniels gets big minutes.

So if Toronto re-signs Serge and Lowry, they are capped out for the foreseeable future, right?

They were pretty capped out before this trade, so yeah. Only way to add anything beyond exemption-players is a trade.

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.
I was thinking a couple of days ago that Ibaka would be a good fit in Toronto. I'm still a huge fan of the guy and think he's a great piece for a contending team.

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.
Oh poopy. Kinda wanted Serge on the Pacers. Just didn't see how he would fit with Thad Young.

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Wtf I love Masai now

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Embiid would have been an all star if he were healthy to replace love :(

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
What exactly is the Raptors' hard cap/luxury situation for next year if they give Lowry the max and Ibaka a near max?

MOVIE MAJICK
Jan 4, 2012

by Pragmatica
Ibaka is exactly the perfect fit for the Raptors, any word on if he'll play versus the Bulls tonight?

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

euphronius posted:

Embiid would have been an all star if he were healthy

Made you a sig for the next few years, enjoy!

(I like Embiid but I liked needling you about his lower body more)

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc
This is a good deal for the Raptors and I am excited about it.

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

I hope Ross windmill 360s on the entire team on his first game back.

Glad Ross was here, excited for Ibaka. Never thought I'd see him in the red and white

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Tae posted:

What exactly is the Raptors' hard cap/luxury situation for next year if they give Lowry the max and Ibaka a near max?

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/toronto_raptors/

Quick math about 125+ mil, depending on what they do with the rest of the roster. Tax threshold is probably 130, so they'll be right up against it.

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream
is there a timetable for the embiid return

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

I forgot that people were internet screaming about how ineffectual and bad Masai is earlier this week

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
RD Mangles is this you at a Villanova v. Depaul game? Nirwad?


https://twitter.com/chicagobullsbot/status/831480853096062977

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Time posted:

is there a timetable for the embiid return

Post asb

https://twitter.com/keithsmithnba/status/831540463366709248

Jack's Flow
Jun 6, 2003

Life, friends, is boring
I'm not a fan of Ibaka, but that's a very good deal for Toronto. Something had to happen.

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

straight up brolic posted:

I forgot that people were internet screaming about how ineffectual and bad Masai is earlier this week

As long as Casey remains coach he is bad, regardless of the other moves he makes.

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream

180 million dollars holy poo poo

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

straight up brolic posted:

I forgot that people were internet screaming about how ineffectual and bad Masai is earlier this week

Well, probably want to see how this new expensive team will work first

https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/831544316405350400

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

:stat:man
Ross is awful. I said it.

Bush Did Outer Heaven
Jan 18, 2005

The Sweetest Payne
https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/831544316405350400

yo, every team in the NBA that isn't Golden State or Cleveland: time to make a run and get extremely weird at the trade deadline, consequences be damned.

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The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Time posted:

180 million dollars holy poo poo

NBA players are becoming stupid rich at this point

I don't even want to think about how much the owners are making

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