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two dungeons is not the problem, it is the poo poo they put in your way to gate you away from speedrunning that is the problem #bringbackamdaporkeep
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Oct 22, 2015 12:15
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Leofish posted:My one complaint with this game, so far, in terms of questing, is that they've somehow managed to make escort quests worse by making you have to wave at the thing you're escorting every time. I've done two of these and they were both stupid. They weren't hard, just stupid. Just keep waving at the guy until he arrives at the target area. If something attacks it, hit it with an instant ranged skill so they change targets. They won't kill you before you get your escortee to the end. Bam, "escort" done in 30 seconds. I find this much better than the classic "NPC cowers in fear until you kill all enemies in range" bull
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Oct 22, 2015 12:21
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ilifinicus posted:two dungeons is not the problem, it is the poo poo they put in your way to gate you away from speedrunning that is the problem hahaha c'mon man that's never happening again. i know the game's called final fantasy and all but seriously at least try and be a little realistic
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Oct 22, 2015 12:37
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Velthice posted:hahaha c'mon man that's never happening again. i know the game's called final fantasy and all but seriously at least try and be a little realistic anyone remember if they stated why they added all those loving roadblocks as people gradually found new ways to speedrun places?
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Oct 22, 2015 12:39
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Nope but you can bet your rear end it had everything to do with killing the first 2 Brayflox hard bosses in 5 minutes and leaving and repeating. Or in other words, blame Animus books, which remain the absolute worst at everything.
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Oct 22, 2015 13:26
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Axle_Stukov posted:Nope but you can bet your rear end it had everything to do with killing the first 2 Brayflox hard bosses in 5 minutes and leaving and repeating. Or in other words, blame Animus books, which remain the absolute worst at everything. amdapor keep runs was kill nothing, run like the wind, tank kills himself as the only person with aggro, res the tank, tank the boss, repeat until you're at the final boss room and the dungeon is over it was efficient in terms of how fast you could cap your mythology and it was efficient in terms of not dropping any durability on your gear since nothing was dying
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Oct 22, 2015 13:32
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12-15 mins is still fast for a dungeon imo. With daily pvp giving 40 you only have to do 4 exdr for the week. This is assuming you don't raid either. I don't know about you guys but this feels a lot nicer and less mind numbing then when it was WP and AK only when the game first came out.
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Oct 22, 2015 15:10
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Holyshoot posted:12-15 mins is still fast for a dungeon imo. With daily pvp giving 40 you only have to do 4 exdr for the week. This is assuming you don't raid either. I don't know about you guys but this feels a lot nicer and less mind numbing then when it was WP and AK only when the game first came out. You don't have to EXDR at all, if you don't want. Trials, frontlines, and the odd alex normal or savage here and there will cap you easily.
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Oct 22, 2015 15:17
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Also why are people worried about 170ish being the floor for new content. loving alex normal requires 170. The only reason the current ExDR only need 145 is because they're the first endgame dungeons of an expansion. Getting to 170 is pretty trivial and can be done in a week or so after hitting 60.
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Oct 22, 2015 15:20
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Alexander dungeons will net you 80 esos if you run each one twice every week. I'm a fan of EXDR because I roll greed on all of the gear and then turn it in for seals to buy coke and sell it for a nice profit.
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Oct 22, 2015 15:25
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seiferguy posted:Alexander dungeons will net you 80 esos if you run each one twice every week. but I can't do alexander because I can't get item level 170
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Oct 22, 2015 15:27
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ilifinicus posted:I still do not get why they are so extremely against speedruns IIRC it was because (1) they were noticing that people were getting harassed in WP for not pulling enough or being the wrong kind of DD/healer class to do optimal AOE; it's the same reason they also toned down Holy (2) they didn't want people to feel obligated to sac-pull from boss to boss like in AK
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Oct 22, 2015 15:34
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Mr. Nice! posted:You don't have to EXDR at all, if you don't want. Trials, frontlines, and the odd alex normal or savage here and there will cap you easily. I prefer to get my eso in as little time as possible. EXDR + front lines daily mixed with 2 savage bosses works well.
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Oct 22, 2015 15:39
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The Chairman posted:they were noticing that people were getting harassed They also added expert after AK/WP because people were just avoiding the duty finder altogether to facilitate speedruns, and that's the last thing they want you to do. They don't want to make 2-3 dungeons to have people only run one either. They also upped the cap from 300 a week to 450 a week to combat people votekicking or pre-screening people without +1 relics and full i90 welfare. They want you to trudge through the muck with whatever people it puts you with on your shoulders so that they can earn their max item level gear, that's why you can't speedrun. The day they no longer let you queue for expert with a premade is the day it takes me twice as many dungeons to cap each week.
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Oct 22, 2015 15:49
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Stufoo posted:but I can't do alexander because I can't get item level 170 If you aren't swimming in law tomes by now, I'm not really sure what to tell you. Yeah, you'll need to grind a few EXDRs, and you should probably run hunts so you can get ilvl 180 gear too (you should do this a bit, it's great for getting your 100 kills choco achievement each week too). A little bit of effort needs to go in to unlocking Alex. Also, this showed up in Google News for me today:  Yes, I'm interested in Ravana. Not that one 
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Oct 22, 2015 16:15
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a kitten posted:No source for these other than "twitter" and "maybe Famitsu" Kirin wings? That sucks. It should have just sort of run through the air because gently caress gravity I'm riding a kirin. At least there will always be bomb chair.
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Oct 22, 2015 16:20
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Thundarr posted:Kirin wings? That sucks. It should have just sort of run through the air because gently caress gravity I'm riding a kirin. I still want flying bear mount. gently caress the rest.
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Oct 22, 2015 16:27
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I really hope that the Vanu beast tribe quests give you a flying whale mount at the end, and the Gnath give you a flying bug.
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Oct 22, 2015 16:40
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There is already an icon in the game for a flying blue dildo mount which seems to be tied to the vanu
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Oct 22, 2015 16:49
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Brannock posted:Druids were horrible for WoW, let's not repeat that debacle. 
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Oct 22, 2015 17:05
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Ferals in vanilla got exactly zero play in raids, they were there purely as brez bodies. Tanking ACNs would get exactly zero play in raids as well.
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Oct 22, 2015 17:32
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Zereth posted:... Druids? Druids in WoW aren't a pet class I meant a single class getting access to all three roles, though it's obviously much less of a problem in this game with the job system being a vast improvement.
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Oct 22, 2015 17:38
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All hybrids were defaulted to healers in vanilla, thankfully there are other eras of wow you could design after instead of the most flawed one
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Oct 22, 2015 17:38
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nuru posted:That subclass punched everyone in the dick for the 2 raids following those two though. Maybe, but having a subclass be poo poo in two raids and then awesome in the next two is not good design, especially if you charge the player for changing subclass. But enough WoW talk.
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Oct 22, 2015 17:46
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No not enough wow talk
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Oct 22, 2015 17:52
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Adventure Pigeon posted:I still want flying bear mount. gently caress the rest. Bear or goobbue, but only one! Pick.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:02
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The last thing this game needs at this point is more classes.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:02
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A lot of people seemed to miss the vendor orb in Azys La that sells white gear that helps you get over the final MSQ ilevel hump.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:10
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Ferals in vanilla got exactly zero play in raids, they were there purely as brez bodies. Ya you're wrong. Ferals got to do 4 horsemen in naxx as tanks and other stuff. And the feral ferry fire adding hit or whatever was awesome.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:13
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SirPhoebos posted:Do you remember Molten Core and Blackwing Lair from Vanilla WoW, and how an entire subclass was basically ostracized from the end game? Fire spec for mages wasn't used just because everything was immune to them. The spec just wasn't good in till naxx let the ignite dot stack and refresh for massive dmg. Vanilla wow at lvl 50 most mages never heard about +spell dmg, with frost being the most efficient spec for mana. Jump to the end of vanilla with the naxx release and mages were rocking 35%+ crit and +1000 spell damage making fireballs crit for 3k+. Actually made running fire useful. Its just a sidenote that no one ran mc and bwl anymore, much like turn 1 of Bahamut.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:18
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Tenzarin posted:Fire spec for mages wasn't used just because everything was immune to them. The spec just wasn't good in till naxx let the ignite dot stack and refresh for massive dmg. Vanilla wow at lvl 50 most mages never heard about +spell dmg, with frost being the most efficient spec for mana. People not running BWL is definitely incorrect - in Vanilla, there weren't really many trinkets, period, and a few of the very best ones came from BWL exclusively. MC was also ran, but that was more of a RNG exercise than anything resembling progression. Vanilla WoW had gearing a lot more like FFXI's than modern WoW/XIV, so it was entirely possible that your BiS gear came from some random overworld boss or an entry-level raid. Niton fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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Oct 22, 2015 18:24
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Niton posted:People not running BWL is definitely incorrect - in Vanilla, there weren't really many trinkets, period, and a few of the very best ones came from BWL exclusively. MC was also ran, but that was more of a RNG exercise than anything resembling progression. When naxx was out, my guild ran bwl once then never again. When naxx was out there was no one progressing in mc and bwl, BC was months away, no one was wasting time learning the raid so close to the xpac.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:56
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Tenzarin posted:When naxx was out, my guild ran bwl once then never again. When naxx was out there was no one progressing in mc and bwl, BC was months away, no one was wasting time learning the raid so close to the xpac. Lol if your guild wasn't 20 manning MC to get their tanks the over powered as poo poo TF drops.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:00
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dunno, we were 20 manning BWL for money in the Naxx era. It didn't take long, and it got you Elementium and Neltharion's Tears.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:00
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Holyshoot posted:Lol if your guild wasn't 20 manning MC to get their tanks the over powered as poo poo TF drops. TF was nice but the damage was nerfed in the naxx days.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:05
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Tenzarin posted:TF was nice but the damage was nerfed in the naxx days. The threat gen wasn't nerfed until sometime after BC launched tho because TF was still the best tanking weapon for all of T4. Some story spoiler stuff but this post is a goldmine http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/267419-Extremely-Frustrated-come-on-SE
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Oct 22, 2015 19:08
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Tenzarin posted:TF was nice but the damage was nerfed in the naxx days. Like the above guy said it was still godly for tanks threat gen. And our tank didn't replace his TF until he got the 1h mace off some boss in SSC.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:22
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ilifinicus posted:There is already an icon in the game for a flying blue dildo mount which seems to be tied to the vanu I don't know what flying blue dildo you're talking about, but I'd be surprised if the Vanu mount wasn't a Sanuwa.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:31
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kafziel posted:I don't know what flying blue dildo you're talking about, but I'd be surprised if the Vanu mount wasn't a Sanuwa.
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a kitten posted:Bear or goobbue, but only one! I have the bear. So bear.
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