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Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.
Well, now you have contribution match. I think they also default to the f fund at 1% for new hires. Make sure that's one of the first things you change so you don't miss out on government matching contributions.

E:. I may have the fund name wrong, IIRC it's the government bond fund.

E2:. Also make sure they entered your SCD correct. It should be the day you start plus time served in military. So if you had 4 years and start Jan 1 2021, your SCD would be Jan 1 2017. You'll accrue leave faster that way.

E2:. Laugh, I just got told my boss has my 30 year pin in his office. :negative:

Evil SpongeBob fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Aug 11, 2021

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lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
I'm not even hired yet. I still have to get my 180 day waiver approved, and I don't think I should expect it to *not* be approved.

I have no convictions or other criminal things, and I've already accepted the tentative offer.

Wrong Theory
Aug 27, 2005

Satellite from days of old, lead me to your access code
Come play civilian Army m'lord. I've been a GS-7 for a month and half now and it's pretty sweet so congrats!

If you have VA disability make sure they know, you can start with 13 days of sick leave specifically for disabled VA stuff and appointments.

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
I'm 99.9% positive when I did my USA Jobs Staffing system thing I included my benefits letter.

80% baby.

Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.
That's another box to check on your sf50 which is kinda your employee record and you get one each time something changes like a raise or transfer. Ensure that you have the 30% or more disabled -10 point veteran showing. You get picked last if there are any forced reductions over non and 5 point veterans.

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
Yea my USA Jobs profile is set for the 30%+ and 10 point part.

My 180 day waiver package has already been put into the series of tubes to get up to 2nd AF.

I'm afraid to ask, but what are some reasons anyone knows of to cause these waivers to be denied? The immediate supervisor guy wants me to work there, they submitted the package (I don't know what's in it, I guess their own manning documentation,) so now it's just a waiting game. I'm just anxious and worried (as always) about it being denied for some dumb stuff that is buried deep within some obscure manpower tome.

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
Fed HR dude here. I wouldn't worry about the waiver; if they're requesting it in the first place it's because they think it'll be approved. Although every agency does indeed have its obscure manpower tomes, they're usually designed as a way to work around whatever regulation or statute would otherwise prevent them from doing something. (There's exactly as much stupidity as you expect, but more often than not there's a way to make something work.)

Evil SpongeBob posted:

E2:. Also make sure they entered your SCD correct. It should be the day you start plus time served in military. So if you had 4 years and start Jan 1 2021, your SCD would be Jan 1 2017. You'll accrue leave faster that way.
This one is a fun can of worms. You actually have several different service computation dates, each for a different purpose (e.g. retirement, reduction in force), and they won't all be the same. The one you'll see on your SF 50 is your SCD for leave accrual. These will depend on the exact circumstances of your retirement; the HR specialist handling your hire should be able to explain how they're being calculated and what they mean for you.

Short version: unless your retirement was based on disability (i.e. that's what's on your DD 214 or other documentation of release from service), you're not going to be credited for the entirety of your military service. At the very least, your SCD-Leave should be adjusted to credit you for deployments ("while participating in a campaign or expedition for which a campaign badge is authorized") (link, PDF warning). I don't mean to throw a wet blanket on anything here, but I also don't want you to get a nasty surprise later on, either.

e: I type gud

Naked Bear fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Aug 12, 2021

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
I'm not worried about it. I just want my foot in the door with a GS job.

Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.
Ok. Let me give you a little bit of tough love (and I truly do mean that this is coming from love). I have 3 decades of USG service.

When I and another goon who's in USG HR says it all matters, it matters. Mistakes in how you're classified can have far reaching implications. Don't assume that paperwork you uploaded to USAJOBS made it to HR for your employment record. That same incompetence we all came across in the military is alive and well in the civvie side.

Things like this are a bastard to fix in a short amount of time. Why is this important? Because when you resign, transfer, going for a promotion, accruing leave, retire or are in trouble is when you discover you were misclassified. And because this all takes time to fix, that adds to whatever stress of whatever you're going through. Review your sf50 and have then explain each section and what it means. It's as important as checking your final dd214, except you'll probably get at least 2 of these sf50s a year.

Hell, if you want to post your PII redacted sf50 in here, we'll give our $0.02.

All we're asking is that you ensure that you are classified properly. When you get your sf50 for the first time, go over it block by block with someone in HR to ensure its correct. Same thing with your first paystub.

I would absolutely bring your dd214 and VA letter with you on your first day with HR.

Evil SpongeBob fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Aug 13, 2021

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
I don't have an SF 50 because I'm not even hired. My USAF retirement effective date was 1 Aug. I'm just trying to feel out this 180 day process to (needlessly, I know) anticipate road blocks or unseen points of failure. What aspects of my 'records' are looked at? Do they look at stuff like my active duty evaluations (not the best towards the end) or things like that? I understand the 180 day waiver process, which I have to get through, goes through everyone and their brother. This means the entire process all the way up to numbered AF is open to roadblocks, because everyone who looks at it will do so with their own metrics.

"Oh, this T isn't crossed, and the TPS report wasn't submitted in triplicate. Returned without action." Even though it made it up to the MAJCOM after making it through 4 other agencies, etc.

I have no control over this and therefore shouldn't worry, but if I listened to this sage advice I'd probably not have started balding in my 20s :(

lite_sleepr fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Aug 13, 2021

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
I'm pretty sure that people said don't worry about the 180 day waiver. They wouldn't be requesting it if it wouldn't be granted. You're gonna be fine, homie.

Once you do officially start, the SF-50 is the most important thing.

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
I must have missed it.

Waivers do require approval, and these require approval from 1 step removed from the SAF.

I'm used to waivers being denied :(

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

lite_sleepr posted:

I must have missed it.

Waivers do require approval, and these require approval from 1 step removed from the SAF.

I'm used to waivers being denied :(

Naked Bear posted:

Fed HR dude here. I wouldn't worry about the waiver; if they're requesting it in the first place it's because they think it'll be approved.

I get that you're concerned about it being denied. The whole point of the 180 day waiver rule is to ensure there is no appearance for a pipeline from active duty to retiring directly into a civilian position. They requesting agency has to submit information relating to the public posting, non-veteran applicants, etc. to show that there was no impropriety in your offer. There isn't in this case, because they wouldn't jump through the hoops to get the paperwork submitted for a waiver if they didn't think it would be approved.

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003

Naked Bear posted:

Fed HR dude here. I wouldn't worry about the waiver; if they're requesting it in the first place it's because they think it'll be approved. Although every agency does indeed have its obscure manpower tomes, they're usually designed as a way to work around whatever regulation or statute would otherwise prevent them from doing something. (There's exactly as much stupidity as you expect, but more often than not there's a way to make something work.)

This one is a fun can of worms. You actually have several different service computation dates, each for a different purpose (e.g. retirement, reduction in force), and they won't all be the same. The one you'll see on your SF 50 is your SCD for leave accrual. These will depend on the exact circumstances of your retirement; the HR specialist handling your hire should be able to explain how they're being calculated and what they mean for you.

Short version: unless your retirement was based on disability (i.e. that's what's on your DD 214 or other documentation of release from service), you're not going to be credited for the entirety of your military service. At the very least, your SCD-Leave should be adjusted to credit you for deployments ("while participating in a campaign or expedition for which a campaign badge is authorized") (link, PDF warning). I don't mean to throw a wet blanket on anything here, but I also don't want you to get a nasty surprise later on, either.

e: I type gud

Thanks! I'm running on 3 hours of sleep.

I'm going for an aPHR cert. As a Fed HR dude, do you have one of those PHR/SPHR certs, or a degree in business management? Think the aPHR is worth the struggle?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
If you signed up for the burn pit registry, you should have received this email. They're now giving % ratings for various illnesses relating to the burn pits on a presumptive basis.

quote:

Greetings Airborne Hazards Open Burn Pit Registry Participant,

We would like you to know that the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) started processing disability claims on August 2, 2021, for asthma, rhinitis and sinusitis on a presumptive basis based on particulate matter exposure during military service in Southwest Asia and certain other areas – if these conditions manifested within 10 years of a qualifying period of military service.

You assisted this process by joining the Airborne Hazards and Open Burn Pit Registry (AHOBPR). The information that you provided was included in the decision-making for these 3 conditions.

It is important to note that the presumption is based on particulate matter exposure which can be caused by a variety of sources to include sand or dust, exhaust from diesel fuel and other engines, air pollution, and burn pits.
We encourage you, if you have symptoms suggestive of the 3 conditions such as a chronic cough or ongoing runny nose and sinus congestion, to get evaluated by a health care professional to make a diagnosis and to file a claim if your condition fits with the presumptive conditions.

You can file a claim by going to this website How To File A VA Disability Claim | Veterans Affairs In addition, you can visit VA.gov or call toll free at 800-827-1000 for more information. Also, VA is reaching out to impacted Veterans and survivors to inform them about their eligibility and providing information on how to apply for benefits.

We also encourage you to ask your battle buddies who have not joined the AHOBPR to consider joining by going to Airborne Hazards and Open Burn Pit Registry (va.gov)


Please visit VA.gov or call toll free at 800-827-1000 for more information.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Mr. Nice! posted:

If you signed up for the burn pit registry, you should have received this email. They're now giving % ratings for various illnesses relating to the burn pits on a presumptive basis.

I got 0% for sinusitis when I got back from Iraq. I wonder if I can get an upgrade.

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

McNally posted:

I got 0% for sinusitis when I got back from Iraq. I wonder if I can get an upgrade.

This just affects the presumption of service connection. If they rated you 0% but still service connected for it nothing much to change for you. Unless your sinusitis is disabling above 0% (easy to prove, I can link you to the ratings guideline.. you can see there if you deserve 0% or 10% or 30% or whatever) and also you had no service connection I’m afraid this isn’t an automatic ca-ching. If they service connected your sinusitis at 0% you’ve won half the battle, however.

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

Yeah I did my c&p exam back in December and they gave me 10% for asthma because I had to use an inhaler for a year after my 2011 deployment. Lungs feel fine now but there is always a lingering fear of cancer developing.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Hekk posted:

Yeah I did my c&p exam back in December and they gave me 10% for asthma because I had to use an inhaler for a year after my 2011 deployment. Lungs feel fine now but there is always a lingering fear of cancer developing.

The only good news about cancer is the VA bumps you up to 100% while your cancer is active and there is zero out of pocket cost to you for treatment through them (or outsourced to local treatment facility because the VA probably doesn't have it in house).

You can get similar convalescent increases when you have any type of service connected surgery as well.

cubivore
Nov 30, 2006

fuck you, got mine
Hi again mil and vetgoons,

I'm out now, back in the states in the first time in years, and busy applying for colleges/FAFSA/grants and whatever.
While I was getting out, people kept telling me I should file a VA claim, but I didn't really say much at my final physical, and no one I talked to really told me what I was supposed to do? I wasn't even really aware my final physical was actually the final physical, it was pretty rushed.

Is there anything I should do now? How would I get around doing this, if I should?

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
Start here at VA.gov. Do it.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

Don’t bother filing your own claim on the website for the first time. Go to a VSA office and have them help you out. They’re way better at filling out the paperwork in a way that will actually get you approved.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
DAV. Call the local DAV office and ask for representation. They'll walk you through.

There's also VFW and American Legion, but the DAV is about the best you're going to find.

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

DAV. Call the local DAV office and ask for representation. They'll walk you through.

There's also VFW and American Legion, but the DAV is about the best you're going to find.

Yeah DAV did me a loving solid and nagged me until I scheduled a follow up c&p exam to cover things missed in the first. I was so happy with how much they helped me I spent the 300 bucks to become a lifetime member of their organization.

Hekk fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Aug 18, 2021

cubivore
Nov 30, 2006

fuck you, got mine
Gotcha, thanks for the help guys.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
there have been some expansions to Post-9/11 benefits

cubivore
Nov 30, 2006

fuck you, got mine
Hey goons, when I called into the local DAV office I was just given the 1800 number for benefits questions. Is there a different avenue I can pursue or is that right?

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
Go down there and pester them to get an appointment to sit with your local VA rep to help you file your compensation.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I don't remember calling an 800 number, but it might be part of their scheduling process now with covid.

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

cubivore posted:

Hey goons, when I called into the local DAV office I was just given the 1800 number for benefits questions. Is there a different avenue I can pursue or is that right?

I called a local number and left a message. Then a old dude who told me he was barely computer literate but had been helping people fill out claims forms for 25 years called me back and asked me to email him all of my medical records.

We went back and forth a couple times and he sent a list of what claims I should make and how to phrase things.

cubivore
Nov 30, 2006

fuck you, got mine
I walked down to the office and got seen instantly and got everything pretty much filed for me. Now time to sit and wait.

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMyCa35_mOg&t=53s

Booger Presley
Aug 6, 2008

Pillbug
Just finished my 4th fall day. Got an email that my Tuesday class had a positive test, don't attend, they're deciding what to do.

Two loving days. I guess university profits are more important. Can't go to class UFN. Have a VA dental appointment next Friday, that I've waiting 6 months for. If you've been exposed... maybe next tooth.

Man, I just want to study with all of my teeth.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
I feel you. I'm waiting to get sick at school, myself.


Also, fun fact, the VA does cover some funeral expenses. They pay more if your death is for a service-connected related issue, and they pay more if you die in a VA facility rather than a civilian facility.

Booger Presley
Aug 6, 2008

Pillbug
Lol, here lies Booger. He had no Covid until he went back to class, he has a nice tooth.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Mr. Nice! posted:

I feel you. I'm waiting to get sick at school, myself.


Also, fun fact, the VA does cover some funeral expenses. They pay more if your death is for a service-connected related issue, and they pay more if you die in a VA facility rather than a civilian facility.

I should probably know more about this seeing as how I'm a more likely future VA surgical statistic. Is there a resource for information for when a VA doctor kills you and you leave a wife or family behind?

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
Went to check my bank account today and noticed something was off with the balance. It seems my disability claim that I started almost 2 years ago has finally been approved - 70% combined total.

Seems counterintuitive to celebrate being broken, but what the hell - hooray!

cubivore posted:

I walked down to the office and got seen instantly and got everything pretty much filed for me. Now time to sit and wait.
Have copies of everything, write things down in advance (dates in question, recurring visits for the condition(s),) be EXTREMELY detailed - when you go to see a doctor, they're going to ask about each issue, and they want details. If you have a knee problem, for instance, start documenting it TODAY - what happens when you go up stairs; when you walk, does it click or grind; what happens when you squat; if you have correlating medical records from civilian docs, have those as well; etc. You're better off having too much information than not.

not caring here posted:

I should probably know more about this seeing as how I'm a more likely future VA surgical statistic. Is there a resource for information for when a VA doctor kills you and you leave a wife or family behind?
I don't know about resources for you, but have a will, no matter how young you are, even if you don't have a lot. Also, make sure you document your wishes with a DNR or whatever. You're probably partly joking here, but honestly, those are two of the most important things that nobody wants to do, but they wind up causing the survivors the most stress and anguish if they aren't in order.

berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Aug 27, 2021

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

not caring here posted:

I should probably know more about this seeing as how I'm a more likely future VA surgical statistic. Is there a resource for information for when a VA doctor kills you and you leave a wife or family behind?

I think some of it is automatic. I won't say I know a lot. Just thumbed through some stuff this morning since my uncle was an army vet.

https://www.benefits.va.gov/compensation/claims-special-burial.asp

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Put me in a furnace, dump me in a folgers can, stuff me in a wall at a national cemetery, send the family a postcard with the details.

If you have an honorable discharge, the government has a hole for you, and your spouse.

CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Aug 27, 2021

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not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Well, that's something at least.

Although I like how you have to pay it for and get reimbursed.

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