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some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I mean I want one in the sense that it's a thing that I don't already own, which exists on planet earth, and could keep me entertained for five minutes.

But I also have a hundred other hardware interface gadgets that I already don't use so there's no reason I should own this even if it weren't $400 :v:

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ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

CLAM DOWN posted:

I want one of these but they're like $400 CAD which is hard to justify.

Yeah they're pretty rough in price up here. I managed to turn mine into a pineapple though (among other things), so hey 2-for-1 toys aren't a bad deal.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

ChubbyThePhat posted:

Yeah they're pretty rough in price up here. I managed to turn mine into a pineapple though (among other things), so hey 2-for-1 toys aren't a bad deal.

I think they're pretty neat and fun to do projects with, but definitely for the kinds of people who have a decent amount of disposable income for gadgets rather than a must have part of a physical pentest tool kit. I did a few basic projects and now it collects dust on my desk, because I don't get to fun projects these days.

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

some kinda jackal posted:

There are infosec influencers? :raise:

My Youtube recommendations are all Mustie1 and Techmoan, I'm not sure I want to upset the algo :lol:

oh man, it's so bad out there. they lean on the anonymous branding so hard.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

CLAM DOWN posted:

I want one of these but they're like $400 CAD which is hard to justify.

Good lord. Is that from import/border fees? They're $200 with a nice little case in the US.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Wizard of the Deep posted:

Good lord. Is that from import/border fees? They're $200 with a nice little case in the US.

it's always:
-currency conversion (dollar is not great right now)
-shipping
-duty
and it's often all 3! :(

JehovahsWetness
Dec 9, 2005

bang that shit retarded
For fucks sake please, everyone, have a working public security contact for your company. You don't have to run a hackerone vrp and I know "you website has critical security problem" beg-bounty emails sucks but _please_ just have security@mydumbcompany.com work and check it every couple of days.

I've been trying to make contact with like 10-15 companies with "yo I got at least roles/editor in your project" messages and it's all bounces. Bunch of fintech, PII, health provider apps and now I need to decide which of these are important / hosed enough that I have to hunt down sec contacts from LinkedIn or from internal data to drop notes from the sky.

If you made a product to handle money, sensitive, or PII data then be responsible and take it seriously. Fuuuuuck.

ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

JehovahsWetness posted:

For fucks sake please, everyone, have a working public security contact for your company. You don't have to run a hackerone vrp and I know "you website has critical security problem" beg-bounty emails sucks but _please_ just have security@mydumbcompany.com work and check it every couple of days.

I've been trying to make contact with like 10-15 companies with "yo I got at least roles/editor in your project" messages and it's all bounces. Bunch of fintech, PII, health provider apps and now I need to decide which of these are important / hosed enough that I have to hunt down sec contacts from LinkedIn or from internal data to drop notes from the sky.

If you made a product to handle money, sensitive, or PII data then be responsible and take it seriously. Fuuuuuck.

I pushed for security.txt implementation at all my clients when I was in consulting, most said it wasn’t worth the time. Orgs can’t be bothered to even monitor a simple inbox.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


For fucks sake people, please stop using ipsec and move to wireguard

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

jaegerx posted:

For fucks sake people, please stop using ipsec and move to wireguard

Good luck with that. IPsec vpn isn't going anywhere for a while.

Though wireguard rocks.

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008

JehovahsWetness posted:

For fucks sake please, everyone, have a working public security contact for your company. You don't have to run a hackerone vrp and I know "you website has critical security problem" beg-bounty emails sucks but _please_ just have security@mydumbcompany.com work and check it every couple of days.

I've been trying to make contact with like 10-15 companies with "yo I got at least roles/editor in your project" messages and it's all bounces. Bunch of fintech, PII, health provider apps and now I need to decide which of these are important / hosed enough that I have to hunt down sec contacts from LinkedIn or from internal data to drop notes from the sky.

If you made a product to handle money, sensitive, or PII data then be responsible and take it seriously. Fuuuuuck.

If they listened to random strangers reporting security problems, they wouldn't only have a lot more work to do, but they'd have to admit that they hosed things up in the first place.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

CommieGIR posted:

Good luck with that. IPsec vpn isn't going anywhere for a while.

Though wireguard rocks.

Arent most opensource vpn solutions just front ends for wireguard?

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

Defenestrategy posted:

Arent most opensource vpn solutions just front ends for wireguard?

Tailscale sure is, though I don't think it counts as a VPN in the traditional sense.

Unrelated, I upped my KDF iterations in BitWarden since they've recently upped their default recommendation from 100k to 600k. I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole comparing PBKDF2 vs Argon2id encryption options. Based on my scholarly research browsing r/bitwarden it sounds like Argon is slower/less supported, but does a lot better at protecting shorter passphrases, but after a certain point in passphrase strength the benefits become irrelevant. Like sure, taking 100,000 years to break my password is better than only taking 10,000, but either way works for me.

Omni claims my passphrase has over 200 bits of entropy already, so I feel OK about just bumping my iterations up above 1 million and leaving everything else as is.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



jaegerx posted:

For fucks sake people, please stop using ipsec and move to wireguard
Counterpoint: no.

Until I can hand someone a profile and not have to guide+provide support for setting up WireGuard, I'm sticking with IPsec.

I assume Microsoft and Apple will implement it eventually, and then I'll switch.

Takes No Damage posted:

Tailscale sure is, though I don't think it counts as a VPN in the traditional sense.

Unrelated, I upped my KDF iterations in BitWarden since they've recently upped their default recommendation from 100k to 600k. I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole comparing PBKDF2 vs Argon2id encryption options. Based on my scholarly research browsing r/bitwarden it sounds like Argon is slower/less supported, but does a lot better at protecting shorter passphrases, but after a certain point in passphrase strength the benefits become irrelevant. Like sure, taking 100,000 years to break my password is better than only taking 10,000, but either way works for me.

Omni claims my passphrase has over 200 bits of entropy already, so I feel OK about just bumping my iterations up above 1 million and leaving everything else as is.
If you're replacing PBKDF2 with anything, scrypt is the correct answer for anything that isn't memory-constrained (like early-boot environment when doing FDE).
PBKDF2 is just everywhere because it's part of PKCS#5.

If you absolutely need to conform to PKCS#5 or you are in a memory-constrained environment, you can take the geli -i approach and have the number of iterations decided by the speed of the CPU.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Counterpoint: no.

Until I can hand someone a profile and not have to guide+provide support for setting up WireGuard, I'm sticking with IPsec.

That’s exactly what Tailscale does for you. If they can log into their email provider, they can get on your tailnet under your control.

Badly Jester
Apr 9, 2010


Bitches!
Remember that cloudfluencer guy who kept insinuating that Amazon has been compromised in a big way? Apparently after weeks of stalling, the story is now out: https://practical-tech.com/2023/06/13/how-an-amazon-fire-kids-tablet-was-allegedly-used-to-stalk-a-security-pro/

Looks like under the right circumstances someone who has physical access to an Alexa-enabled device (formerly) tied to your account can use it to gain access to your Amazon activity, even if you have deregistered the device. Notably, this includes listening in on recordings.

Sounds like a hot mess, but hardly the widespread and major issue cloutguy promised.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Subjunctive posted:

That’s exactly what Tailscale does for you. If they can log into their email provider, they can get on your tailnet under your control.
I'd still need to handhold ab unch of people into installing tailscale.

With IPsec, I can send them a file, they double-click it, and I have to put in as little thought as they do.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Badly Jester posted:

Remember that cloudfluencer guy who kept insinuating that Amazon has been compromised in a big way? Apparently after weeks of stalling, the story is now out: https://practical-tech.com/2023/06/13/how-an-amazon-fire-kids-tablet-was-allegedly-used-to-stalk-a-security-pro/

Looks like under the right circumstances someone who has physical access to an Alexa-enabled device (formerly) tied to your account can use it to gain access to your Amazon activity, even if you have deregistered the device. Notably, this includes listening in on recordings.

Sounds like a hot mess, but hardly the widespread and major issue cloutguy promised.

so the rough situation is that a spy feature can be used maliciously?

Badly Jester
Apr 9, 2010


Bitches!
In essence, yeah. I guess the real problem is that the device his stalking ex used as a bug no longer showed up in his list of Amazon devices, so he (somewhat reasonably) assumed it'd be safe.

Claeaus
Mar 29, 2010

Klyith posted:

If your 4 word passphrase is 4 words in the top 10,000 by frequency, it can now be cracked by a single 4090 in ~55.5 hours vs SHA1 hashing.

Let's say you speak Engish, Finnish, Spanish and German so instead of CorrectHorseBatteryStaple you do OikeaCaballoBatteryKlammer, would that put you in the clear?

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

that sounds like a bog standard internet of poo poo security risk, just amplified by its creepiness. lol again at his posts.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Influencers are the worst

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Thanks Ants posted:

people using the internet are the worst

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Thanks Ants posted:

people are the worst

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

I'd still need to handhold ab unch of people into installing tailscale.

With IPsec, I can send them a file, they double-click it, and I have to put in as little thought as they do.

winget install tailscale

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





[error] unable to access Microsoft Store as someone decided Windows LTSC branch was more secure.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

Good move for anyone using Purview Information Protection/AIP with Purview moving to AES256-CBC by default starting in August. NIST removed ECB as an acceptable mode last year but AES128-ECB was still used to maintain backwards compatibility with legacy versions of Office.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com...on/ba-p/3831909

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




ShoeFly posted:

I pushed for security.txt implementation at all my clients when I was in consulting, most said it wasn’t worth the time. Orgs can’t be bothered to even monitor a simple inbox.

sales@example.com always exists

I had a fun one this past week. We use Trellix for AV and I caught an escalation for a couple of cases where it was blocking an Excel add-in used by some of our chemists and quarantining anything they opened and some of the executable. I gather some data and put in an AV exclusion request. People restore from quarantine and... no go, macros still won't run. We get hands-on, do some experimentation (we do science here!), and discover that any workbook that had been quarantined is now broken, but files that hand't been are fine. We restore from backup and people get back to doing science.

To quote the vendor tech, the software is made up of "obfuscated and encrypted VB macros". If you want the complete and undivided attention of your AV program, that's exactly what you do.

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer
I like a more personal touch with my infosec support:



Every company needs a Gary :)

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



New moveit zero day https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2023/06/15/moveit-mayhem-3-disable-http-and-https-traffic-immediately/amp/

Tl/Dr: if it’s on your network turn it the gently caress off immediately No CVE as of yet

Edit: to be clear, this is a DIFFERENT zero day from the one earlier this month

navyjack fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Jun 16, 2023

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
MOVEit the gently caress off your network

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

some kinda jackal posted:

MOVEit the gently caress off your network

:golfclap:

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
MOVEit execs this week:



It’s funny because I don’t have that poo poo anywhere in my network, i mean, but by the grace of god, right? Tomorrow it’s some other lovely bespoke enterprise system that gets thoroughly eviscerated. Only a matter of time :smith:

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Jun 16, 2023

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
What is MOVEit even for? Saving an sftp line in some admin script?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I think it’s just commercial file movement for enterprise. Your FTP, sftp, web based upload/download file exchange solution. Probably includes a bunch of automation and data piping if I had to guess, but honestly haven’t given it a second look.

A non-trivial amount of the modern payments ecosystem still relies on processes that SFTP reconciliation files around at the end of the day, for example. So yeah, you could stand up an SFTP server on OpenSSH and script the backend, but this probably does a bunch of things on the backend that you’d have to script out and support. It also ticks a lot of enterprise boxes around “vendor support contracts” in case something goes wrong and.. welp.. the joke writes itself

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Jun 16, 2023

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Absurd Alhazred posted:

What is MOVEit even for? Saving an sftp line in some admin script?

It's a file locker platform. You want to send files to boomers that can only handle email? You upload it to the moveit servers and then send the link to the other recipients.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
So like SharePoint, or Dropbox links?

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Absurd Alhazred posted:

So like SharePoint, or Dropbox links?

Infosec nerds will require sharepoint to only work on authenticated sessions, no anonymous links.(I know cause i fought that battle and lost, so our people use wetransfer to move content around behind our backs).

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



Did something big break?


cr0y fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jun 17, 2023

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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


lmao

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