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crankdatbatman posted:Ok...I might actually look into this, thanks for the tip. Jesus Christ dude. Stop burying your head in the sand like a goddamn mindless ostrich. Law schools aren't "regional." They're terrible. And you're terribly dumb for wanting to go to loving MSU. We're not picking on you and we're not belittling you (any more than anyone else who asks your exact same question). Don't go to MSU. Just don't. It's a loving dumb decision. How can we make it more clear to you? You asked the opinion of a lot of people who are way more knowledgeable than you, and the 100% consensus is that going to law school with your stats is a bad idea. I don't even need to know what you think a "good LSAT score" is. If you got into MSU but not Harvard, it's not a "good LSAT score." It's a bad LSAT score. If you got a free ride from MSU but not Duke, then you are not special. You are weak and confused and easy prey for law schools. Your confusion in your last several posts has 100% confirmed that you are weak and confused and easy prey for law schools. If you are still confused about what all of us are telling you, then you deserve whatever soul-ripping punishment you deserve.
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crankdatbatman posted:Ok...I might actually look into this, thanks for the tip. I think you should go.
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Don't listen to the opinions of anyone currently going to law school. They have to tell others that going is a good idea so they can convince themselves of it. Also they go to law school.
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Don't listen to the opinions of anyone currently unemployed, underemployed or unhappily employed after going to law school. They have to tell others that going is a bad idea so they can convince themselves it's not their fault. Also they went to law school. That argument goes both ways. Neither one is necessarily true.
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Feb 6, 2012 15:04
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No mine is the true one.
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Feb 6, 2012 15:25
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Penguins Like Pies posted:I like to see people suffer as a result of poor decisions. It makes me feel less lonely. Yes....yes...excellent.
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I'm a patent examiner, and I swear to god, anyone who is thinking about law school because they're interested in patent law should punch themselves in the face when they could be making $70k their first year and $150k their fourth year as a patent examiner with no loving law school you loving fucks and then not have wasted three years on law school like I did. gently caress, I feel like if I hadn't gone to law school, I'd be retired already, that's how much we get paid.
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Hey lay off my school dicks
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Feces Starship posted:I know it feels like people are personally attacking you, but we're just trying to help and we're being honest. I liked law school it was very relaxing, except for bursts of unpleasantness around exam time. Then again I read very quickly and have boundless confidence in my ability to cram, and had a lackadaisical approach to attending class.
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Don't listen to anyone, ever, about going to law school. You have to do what's right for you. Listen...to your heart...
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:I'm a patent examiner, and I swear to god, anyone who is thinking about law school because they're interested in patent law should punch themselves in the face when they could be making $70k their first year and $150k their fourth year as a patent examiner with no loving law school you loving fucks and then not have wasted three years on law school like I did. gently caress, I feel like if I hadn't gone to law school, I'd be retired already, that's how much we get paid. Yeah this is what crankdatbatman should read.
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There's nothing wrong with joining a private firm as a patent agent or technical adviser either. Neither require a law degree and you get a lot more exposure to different areas of patent law than being an Examiner, I think. The pay is also decent and depending on the firm you might be able to get a law degree anyway on their dime, while still getting paid a salary (the only way I will ever agree to get a degree law degree).
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evilweasel posted:I liked law school it was very relaxing, except for bursts of unpleasantness around exam time. Then again I read very quickly and have boundless confidence in my ability to cram, and had a lackadaisical approach to attending class. okay but short of using this as a venue for advertising your sterling personal qualities you certainly weren't autistic enough to not notice the constant parade of shame, fear and self-loathing in the faces of 65% your classmates, right?
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nm posted:And remember, you're at least the second law school in MI. I am not alone among Michigan lawyers in thinking Wayne is a better school than MSU, regardless of ranking
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CaptainScraps posted:You should only go to law school if you really love the law And want to deal directly with the big issues of the day and also love to debate.
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Roger_Mudd posted:And want to deal directly with the big issues of the day and also love to debate. And want to make a difference.
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Roger_Mudd posted:And want to deal directly with the big issues of the day and also love to debate. And you want to simultaneously help people and make the big dolla.
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Zarkov Cortez posted:And want to make a difference. And are really really smart!
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Feces Starship posted:okay but short of using this as a venue for advertising your sterling personal qualities you certainly weren't autistic enough to not notice the constant parade of shame, fear and self-loathing in the faces of 65% your classmates, right? That doesn't really match up with my experience until 3L year when some people started getting desperate about not having jobs. People were mostly relatively relaxed in my experience.
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Anybody familiar with how criminal discovery works in Hawaii in practice? Or anybody whose criminal discovery code reads something like this? Hawaii Crim Pro Rule 16 posted:Disclosure of Matters Not Within Prosecution's Possession. Upon written request of defense counsel and specific designation by defense counsel of material or information which would be discoverable if in the possession or control of the prosecutor and which is in the possession or control of other governmental personnel, the prosecutor shall use diligent good faith efforts to cause such material or information to be made available to defense counsel; and if the prosecutor's efforts are unsuccessful the court shall issue suitable subpoenas or orders to cause such material or information to be made available to defense counsel.
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I went to law school because my mom always told me how much I loved to argue
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Phil Moscowitz posted:I went to law school because my mom always told me how much I loved to argue I know a guy who went to law school so that he would have an excuse to move out from his mom's house. No joke. This guy had zero backbone.
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So what I have learned from this thread is that I am a flawed human being for even considering law school in the first place. Thanks everyone for the advice.
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crankdatbatman posted:So what I have learned from this thread is that I am a flawed human being for even considering law school in the first place. Thanks everyone for the advice. It wasn't a bad idea to consider law school, and it's not a bad thing you made a bad decision on bad information. It's not a bad thing you looked into it: the bad thing would be getting all of the relevant information and then still making a bad decision.
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crankdatbatman posted:So what I have learned from this thread is that I am a flawed human being for even considering law school in the first place. Thanks everyone for the advice. I went to a T14 law school and opened up my own firm because there were no jobs. Last month I made $100.
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I went to law school because drawing cartoons is stupid
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Ok, last question. During the Super Bowl last night, I was discussing with my friend who (admittedly knows very little about law school) has been very supportive of my interest in the process. I had mentioned what's been said in this forum, as--believe it or not--what's been said here is making me think of giving up on the process. She mentioned the idea that we had discussed: possibly going into the military as a JAG. I've looked up a small amount of information on that possibility, too. What are the problems with going into the military to start your legal career after law school?
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crankdatbatman posted:Ok, last question. During the Super Bowl last night, I was discussing with my friend who (admittedly knows very little about law school) has been very supportive of my interest in the process. I had mentioned possibly going into the military as a JAG, and I've looked up a small amount of information on that possibility, too. What are the problems with going into the military to start your legal career after law school? The problem is that JAG is highly highly competitive, and there are very few slots. Planning to go into JAG is like planning to win the lottery. Do you have military experience? That might help. But really, JAG recruitment pulls from very very good law schools - you wouldn't have a chance unless you knew the recruiters personally or some other personal connection. JAG used to be one of those backup ideas: "Oh, if BigLaw doesn't pan out, I'll just join JAG - the military is always looking for recruits, right?" But the reality is very, very different. Caveat: if you are in great physical shape, you might be able to join the Marine Corps JAG because they require JAG officers to go through the same basic training as other Marines, so candidates in strong physical shape get a leg up for that recruitment process. Also, you don't have to entirely give up on the process, just take the LSAT again and get a better score, and get into better schools. entris fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Feb 6, 2012 |
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crankdatbatman posted:Ok, last question. During the Super Bowl last night, I was discussing with my friend who (admittedly knows very little about law school) has been very supportive of my interest in the process. I had mentioned what's been said in this forum, as--believe it or not--what's been said here is making me think of giving up on the process. She mentioned the idea that we had discussed: possibly going into the military as a JAG. I've looked up a small amount of information on that possibility, too. What are the problems with going into the military to start your legal career after law school? JAG is not a fallback. I don't know if it ever was, but it sure as hell isn't know. It's ultracompetitive. They seem to be less elitist than law firms, so if you're top of your class at some TTT scuba school JAG will still take you, but it's not just something you do because it's easier than getting a firm job e: entris my eyes glazed over your entire post. get an avatar you rear end in a top hat
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Feces Starship posted:okay but short of using this as a venue for advertising your sterling personal qualities you certainly weren't autistic enough to not notice the constant parade of shame, fear and self-loathing in the faces of 65% your classmates, right? For all that I am flaming this guy as hard as anyone, I loved law school a lot. It has to do with living in a frat house, learning to play cards and not attending law school.
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Adar posted:For all that I am flaming this guy as hard as anyone, I loved law school a lot. I did two out of these three things and still hated it I kind of miss it right now though, I guess I didn't know how good I had it. sleeping till 5 pm and playing internet poker all night 
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Soothing Vapors posted:
Hahaha what do these two things have to do with each other? Besides, I read the forums at work (or on my phone using the Awful app) and I have all avatars disabled, so I haven't seen an avatar in years.
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Adar posted:For all that I am flaming this guy as hard as anyone, I loved law school a lot. I don't doubt the honesty of this statement but I can not understand. I can't think of a single redeeming quality.
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crankdatbatman posted:Ok, last question. During the Super Bowl last night, I was discussing with my friend who (admittedly knows very little about law school) has been very supportive of my interest in the process. I had mentioned what's been said in this forum, as--believe it or not--what's been said here is making me think of giving up on the process. She mentioned the idea that we had discussed: possibly going into the military as a JAG. I've looked up a small amount of information on that possibility, too. What are the problems with going into the military to start your legal career after law school? I agree with pretty much everything that everyone else has told you so far, but I just wanted to clarify that what people are telling you is not something unique to "this forum." I think that's why people are being kind of harsh with you - you literally have to have done no research to be this naive. Any law school forum - TLS, auto admit, jdu - every law school blog, every mainstream newspaper and magazine article in the last couple years, are all just as negative about going to law school.
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Roger_Mudd posted:I don't doubt the honesty of this statement but I can not understand. I enjoyed law school, but I also didn't go to a ton of classes and never hung out socially with law students.
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Roger_Mudd posted:I don't doubt the honesty of this statement but I can not understand. Law school requires very little of your time compared to having a job.
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Wow my job owns so hard compared to law school and takes way less time
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^^yeah but you "tried hard" and "did well" in law schoolentris posted:Hahaha what do these two things have to do with each other? 
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evilweasel posted:Law school requires very little of your time compared to having a job. This. If only law school paid better...
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