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Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

STAC Goat posted:

Bill Kristol is on MSNBC saying that Boehner's just bitter at Cruz because the Government Shutdown worked great.

Also, he thinks Cruz/Carly are running 3rd party.

Oh, and that a 3rd party candidate has an actual shot of winning.

Bill Kristol is funny.

OH gently caress

gently caress gently caress gently caress

KRISTOL FOUNDED PNAC, Trump wants to relitigate 9/11 which will result in Kristol being hanged for treason if it's done correctly, the Neocons are totally funding a Cruz/Fiorina 3rd party run to sink Trump. It's going to happen.

Well, besides the "going to win" part. That's pretty lol.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Dalaram posted:

The announcement would be Classic. "Hey, all you people that say I don't like women, which I have many friends that are women, I want meet my running mate, Mia Love! Mia, come up here, Mia love to see you VP long time, right?"

:slaps her rear end as she walks to mic:

I always thought it was funny that when the GOP tried to show off its diversity by featuring a black woman at the RNC that the foremost black woman in the Republican Party at the time was the mayor of a tiny Utah town.

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
‘Run! Run And Never Look Back!’ Whispers Heidi Cruz While Hugging Carly Fiorina On Rally Stage

http://www.theonion.com/article/run-run-and-never-look-back-whispers-heidi-cruz-wh-52834

No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster

Oiled and Ready posted:

OH gently caress

gently caress gently caress gently caress

KRISTOL FOUNDED PNAC, Trump wants to relitigate 9/11 which will result in Kristol being hanged for treason if it's done correctly, the Neocons are totally funding a Cruz/Fiorina 3rd party run to sink Trump. It's going to happen.

Well, besides the "going to win" part. That's pretty lol.

That does sound bad. Now Bernie really needs to go third party.

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

No Mans Land posted:

That does sound bad. Now Bernie really needs to go third party.

Trump should bankroll it

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

Oiled and Ready posted:

KRISTOL FOUNDED PNAC, Trump wants to relitigate 9/11 which will result in Kristol being hanged for treason if it's done correctly,

You're going to have to elaborate on this one. You've lost me.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

chemtrail huffer posted:

please don't endorse indentured servitude

Only when Trump supporters stop endorsing racially-based mass deportations.:tipshat:

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Three Olives posted:

Except he is going to be primaried out in 2018 and kicked to the curb by the people he will need to get the funding to launch another campaign in 2020 because everyone hates his guts.

And that's assuming he can line up experienced staff to mount another run, it's safe to assume that a good chunk of them hate his guts at this point and are just obligated to stay on for future job prospect reasons.

Well, like I said if his internals tell him 2018 looks bad it might actually play into his interests to just no run and present it like he can't fix the system by being part of it, he has to be on top of it. Or some flourish "cancer" narrative he'll come up with.

Funding and staff might be another issue but we're specifically talking about the possibility of him running 3rd party here. If he can't get funding and support in 3 or 4 years from the Republican religious right there's no way in hell he'd get it this year as a 3rd party candidate.

I'm not saying Cruz is going to be president in 2020. I'm just saying if his sole motivation is power than 2020 is a much saner path there than running 3rd party this year. But then again the same probably holds true for him trying to rip the party apart so I clearly can't get into the mind of that crazed power hunger lizard man.

chemtrail huffer posted:

The fundamental emotion behind every one of Ted Cruz's actions is spite. If he loses out on the Republican nomination, don't rule out a third-party run just because he knows he'll never win. If he thinks that a third-party run could make the difference between Trump becoming president and Trump being humiliated on a national stage, he might just go for it - and a third-party Cruz run probably would mean just that, since it would provide the 10-15% of "muh true conservatism" Republicans who might vote for Trump with somewhere else to go.

But that would almost certainly torpedo his political career. There's no way he can run as a front runner in 2020 against Hillary if he's the reason Hillary got elected in 2016. And he loses the "I told you if you nominated Trump you'd lose" narrative if HE's the one who made it happen by running 3rd party.

But like I said, I don't truly understand Cruz's evil brain.

Brigadier Sockface
Apr 1, 2007
Mia Love would be a hell of a pick. Would she be Palin mark II?

sharkbomb
Feb 9, 2005
As I think about it, I really don't think Mia Love would want to tie herself to Trump's campaign. It would probably do a lot of damage to her own career, and she'll probably be able to play a prominent role in the GOP in a decade or so.

There's no way the GOP would throw the one black woman in their party on to the Trump Train when that fucker has no brakes

No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster

Majorian posted:

Only when Trump supporters stop endorsing racially-based mass deportations.:tipshat:

Not racially based...based on legal status. if it even happens

Wall Is Life
Sep 29, 2015

#NoBanNoWall

Majorian posted:

Only when Trump supporters stop endorsing racially-based mass deportations.:tipshat:

What part of illegal immigrant is racially based? If anything its based on legal status.

E: beaten to this with same argument. great minds think alike

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

No Mans Land posted:

Not racially based...based on legal status. if it even happens

Ah, of course, I forgot - race has nothing to do with Trump supporters' motivations.

FabioClone
Oct 3, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
If Trump picks a celebrity as his VP, he will definitely win.

No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster

Majorian posted:

Ah, of course, I forgot - race has nothing to do with Trump supporters' motivations.

That's correct.

Wall Is Life posted:

What part of illegal immigrant is racially based? If anything its based on legal status.

E: beaten to this with same argument. great minds think alike

Trump.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Oiled and Ready posted:

OH gently caress

gently caress gently caress gently caress

KRISTOL FOUNDED PNAC, Trump wants to relitigate 9/11 which will result in Kristol being hanged for treason if it's done correctly, the Neocons are totally funding a Cruz/Fiorina 3rd party run to sink Trump. It's going to happen.

Well, besides the "going to win" part. That's pretty lol.

This position isn't at all insane and detached from reality. No sir. Tell us more about the treason trials that will occur under God Emperor Trump.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Cantorsdust posted:

Well, I know I wasn't very comfortable with Buchanan having a male VP, but that turned out okay.

Oh god, yeah, the literal worst vp in American History was a running mate of a gay man :ohdear:

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Oh god, yeah, the literal worst vp in American History was a running mate of a gay man :ohdear:

As far as I know, Breckinridge was the one and only VP to ever lead troops against the U.S. government.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Wall Is Life posted:

What part of illegal immigrant is racially based? If anything its based on legal status.

E: beaten to this with same argument. great minds think alike

*Pisses on u*

No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster
Gingrich is the best possible Trump VP pick but for some reason I don't think it will happen. Maybe too much baggage. Since Trump is such an outsider it's hard to gauge who is or could be ideologically close to him.

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

sharkbomb posted:

As I think about it, I really don't think Mia Love would want to tie herself to Trump's campaign. It would probably do a lot of damage to her own career, and she'll probably be able to play a prominent role in the GOP in a decade or so.

There's no way the GOP would throw the one black woman in their party on to the Trump Train when that fucker has no brakes

Also Mormons loving hate Trump.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
Trump/Gingrich
Vs
Clinton/Kaelin

It's a 90s party

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
poo poo Kato Kaelin is already well versed in being friends with a murderer

iustorum_anime
Apr 4, 2016



No Mans Land posted:

Gingrich is the best possible Trump VP pick but for some reason I don't think it will happen. Maybe too much baggage. Since Trump is such an outsider it's hard to gauge who is or could be ideologically close to him.

Newt Gingrich is way too Washington-y for Trump, plus he cheated on his wife while she was dying of cancer, and that sort of scandal never gets old. I'd be down for the Trump Organization getting the moon base contract though.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

chemtrail huffer posted:

Newt Gingrich is way too Washington-y for Trump, plus he cheated on his wife while she was dying of cancer, and that sort of scandal never gets old. I'd be down for the Trump Organization getting the moon base contract though.

Gingrich is the best pick for trump if Trump wants to be the first republican to get a single digit electoral vote count

No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster

Al! posted:

Gingrich is the best pick for trump if Trump wants to be the first republican to get a single digit electoral vote count

Ya he needs a centrist pick, but there aren't any

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

No Mans Land posted:

Gingrich is the best possible Trump VP pick but for some reason I don't think it will happen. Maybe too much baggage. Since Trump is such an outsider it's hard to gauge who is or could be ideologically close to him.

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Yeah, Gingrich is a good choice against Clintons. Please, Donald Trump, listen to No Mans [sic] Land.

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

Cantorsdust posted:

You're going to have to elaborate on this one. You've lost me.

I believe PNAC, who wrote up the need for a "new Pearl Harbor" in 1999 to justify an Iraq invasion and includes Bushes and Cheney and Rumsfeld, worked with Saudi royals and CIA asset Bin Laden to "do" 9/11. Yes, I am a grad school student who actually believes this.

I will not poo poo the thread up with it but feel free to watch Ryan Dawson's 9/11 and war by deception on youtube if you'd like to know why I believe this.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Despite what some Democrats may think, 'Illegal immigrant' is not a race.

No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster

Jack of Hearts posted:

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Yeah, Gingrich is a good choice against Clintons. Please, Donald Trump, listen to No Mans [sic] Land.

I figured he was a washington insider who happened to support trump strongly and that seemed positive, but i didn't think it all the way through. that gives too much ammo to the clinton campaign and gingrich is too far right for this election.

Oiled and Ready posted:

I believe PNAC, who wrote up the need for a "new Pearl Harbor" in 1999 to justify an Iraq invasion and includes Bushes and Cheney and Rumsfeld, worked with Saudi royals and CIA asset Bin Laden to "do" 9/11. Yes, I am a grad school student who actually believes this.

I will not poo poo the thread up with it but feel free to watch Ryan Dawson's 9/11 and war by deception on youtube if you'd like to know why I believe this.

Same although I go back and forth. Somethings fishy about the whole thing and I still can't place exactly what. Despite the mountains of books written on What Really Happened, nothing pegs it down enough for me. Like it's all one big disinfo campaign in itself.

smg77
Apr 27, 2007

Jack of Hearts posted:

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Yeah, Gingrich is a good choice against Clintons. Please, Donald Trump, listen to No Mans [sic] Land.

What's Ken Starr up to these days?

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich
I thought Trumpists were buffoons, but I didn't think you were Truthers. Dang.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Oiled and Ready posted:

I believe PNAC, who wrote up the need for a "new Pearl Harbor" in 1999 to justify an Iraq invasion and includes Bushes and Cheney and Rumsfeld, worked with Saudi royals and CIA asset Bin Laden to "do" 9/11. Yes, I am a grad school student who actually believes this.

I will not poo poo the thread up with it but feel free to watch Ryan Dawson's 9/11 and war by deception on youtube if you'd like to know why I believe this.

what the gently caress is this loving bullshit?

What the flying gently caress? How loving stupid do ya have to be to blame Bush for malevalence rather than admit his incompetence?

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

no she didn't what happened was that the Honduras president decided that he wants to run again and violate the constitutional term limits so the supreme court declared his actions illegal. Then he tried to seize a bunch of ballots from a military base or something to hold a referendum to get rid of the term limits and as it was a pretty blatant seizure of power congress voted to get rid of him. It's pretty typical latin american poo poo where the president tries to turn himself into a strongman except in this case the rest of the government got rid him.

In all of this Clinton was not involved, she did not incite, direct nor order the overthrow of Manuel Zelaya. Even the article you are linking to says she had something to do with the "aftermath" which was basically the US maintaining the status quo with Honduras instead of cutting off relations. The left's ability to understand the nuance of international relations is dumb and limited to blame the US for everything instead of recongizing honduras is perfectly capable of having a coup without overlord clinton holding their hand.

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

No Mans Land posted:



Same although I go back and forth. Somethings fishy about the whole thing and I still don't know exactly what.

Alex Jones is an idiot, and loose change and similar are basically popcorn tinfoil entertainment.

Watch this when you get bored and you'll know what's up. I've seen it at least 5 times and I've factchecked much of it, Dawson knows his poo poo.

https://youtu.be/pK6VLFdWJ4I

Oiled and Ready fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Apr 28, 2016

as halfway crooks
Mar 7, 2007

by Shine
just stopping by before bed to drop the jaggies of this threads favorite jpg
get educated leftists
get ready for the horseshoe to be recast

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

My Imaginary GF posted:

what the gently caress is this loving bullshit?

What the flying gently caress? How loving stupid do ya have to be to blame Bush for malevalence rather than admit his incompetence?

Bush wasn't the malevolent one, his only sins were by omission. This is his CIA daddy, Cheney etc. You don't make the actual mastermind president, you make him veep.

Cronodoculous
Jun 29, 2006

You light up my life


Scott Adams (and others) assigning deep tactical motives to Trump's actions makes me wonder if they watched Baby's Day Out and thought it was about the world's smartest baby foiling a bunch of expert kidnappers.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

as halfway crooks posted:

just stopping by before bed to drop the jaggies of this threads favorite jpg
get educated leftists
get ready for the horseshoe to be recast



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

pretty much why socialism fails btw

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My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Typo posted:

no she didn't what happened was that the Honduras president decided that he wants to run again and violate the constitutional term limits so the supreme court declared his actions illegal. Then he tried to seize a bunch of ballots from a military base or something to hold a referendum to get rid of the term limits and as it was a pretty blatant seizure of power congress voted to get rid of him. It's pretty typical latin american poo poo where the president tries to turn himself into a strongman except in this case the rest of the government got rid him.

In all of this Clinton was not involved, she did not incite, direct nor order the overthrow of Manuel Zelaya. Even the article you are linking to says she had something to do with the "aftermath" which was basically the US maintaining the status quo with Honduras instead of cutting off relations. The left's ability to understand the nuance of international relations is dumb and limited to blame the US for everything instead of recongizing honduras is perfectly capable of having a coup without overlord clinton holding their hand.

Unfortunately, al jazeera is a racist news source which does not ascribe any action to local actors.

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