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Working in IT: gently caress mondays e: poo poo today was tuesday
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Mar 23, 2016 03:46
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Chickenwalker fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Sep 23, 2018 |
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Mar 23, 2016 04:06
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CLAM DOWN posted:Working in IT: gently caress mondays It's always either Monday or the Sunday night as far as I'm concerned.
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Mar 23, 2016 06:13
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Jesus, I would loving kill myself.
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Mar 23, 2016 06:15
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Working in IT: This post would poo poo more in a faster USB port
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Mar 23, 2016 07:10
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I believe I posted in this tread a while back asking for some pointers on wiring up racks. Here is my latest effort. I'm almost happy with how it turned out. Any constructive criticism? 
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Mar 23, 2016 07:33
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frogbert posted:I believe I posted in this tread a while back asking for some pointers on wiring up racks. Too pristine and organized with room for orderly expansion. Do it again and start wrapping random cables around eachother to make them just shy of popping out on their own under the strain. Then burn the documentation and disappear into the night so no-one else can figure out what it should look like without rebuilding from scratch. Maybe start the vermin colony yourself by introducing a pregnant rat to a nice warm bundle of cables where it can nest safely out of arm's reach.
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Mar 23, 2016 07:39
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Toshimo posted:Working in IT 3.14: Now supporting Radius²  frogbert posted:Here is my latest effort. I'm almost happy with how it turned out. Any constructive criticism?
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Mar 23, 2016 09:37
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Chickenwalker posted:My boss won't let me implement LDAP or RADIUS in any form because, anecdotally, his "wife's company has it and it sucks." We have 400 devices on our network. What the gently caress? If this is a Windows environment do you at least have AD? Tell him that's LDAP and watch his head explode.
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Mar 23, 2016 11:17
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Chickenwalker fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Sep 23, 2018 |
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Mar 23, 2016 14:21
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frogbert posted:I believe I posted in this tread a while back asking for some pointers on wiring up racks. Labels? Chickenwalker posted:No, we have nothing. Any changes or updates have to be done by hand deskside if they're not already on our premade images. Otherwise everyone has local admin and we have basically no control.  quit.
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Mar 23, 2016 14:25
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Chickenwalker posted:No, we have nothing. Any changes or updates have to be done by hand deskside if they're not already on our premade images. Otherwise everyone has local admin and we have basically no control. You and turtle should get together
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Mar 23, 2016 14:30
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Seriously, where the gently caress do some of you work? God drat. Find new jobs if they suck that bad. You are learning nothing but bad habits.
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Mar 23, 2016 14:36
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Chickenwalker posted:No, we have nothing. Any changes or updates have to be done by hand deskside if they're not already on our premade images. Otherwise everyone has local admin and we have basically no control. What industry are you in where this is an acceptable thing and the company isn't imploding? Are there corporate share drives? Are they open to everybody on the network, or do you manually add access to new people? How the poo poo does anything get done?
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Mar 23, 2016 14:52
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Chickenwalker posted:No, we have nothing. Any changes or updates have to be done by hand deskside if they're not already on our premade images. Otherwise everyone has local admin and we have basically no control.  Seriously though. I can't believe the stories some of you guys have.
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Mar 23, 2016 15:13
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frogbert posted:I believe I posted in this tread a while back asking for some pointers on wiring up racks. This is very good work. Seriously- this is a pretty rack. I have on thing: cables on the left half of the rack get routed to the left side. Cables connected on the right head to the right. Your cabinet-top switches have ports on the right side but the cables reach across the cabinet to the left. I like my hair parted down the middle, 
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Mar 23, 2016 15:59
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now that I'm done with school I've been messing around with some web design and Python stuff. If I were to get fairly good at web application creation, and already have some network and security experience is that a recipe for a high salary position? I'm wondering if there is any demand for full end-to-end knowledge, like a person who can stand up the infrastructure in addition to being LAMP competent or something? Just kind of tossing around ideas in my head for what I can play with in my free time, coding and development of useful things is attractive, but I'm by no means good enough to be considered for a job that requires it.
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Mar 23, 2016 16:27
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crunk dork posted:now that I'm done with school I've been messing around with some web design and Python stuff.
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Mar 23, 2016 16:29
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crunk dork posted:now that I'm done with school I've been messing around with some web design and Python stuff. If you want to do it all, you're looking to participate in the small and some medium business market (or the startup market). Once you get to a certain size, most CIOs are brought in with a hard-on for subject matter experts. If you want high dollars, concentrate on a single field like network security. If you want variety, you'll often times sacrifice how high of a dollar you can get to.
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Mar 23, 2016 16:30
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Let's see how long I can get away with this one. My new, self-decided policy, is that if I am asked to make a change after hours, no matter how small, and have less than 24 hours notice (ie, I am told morning-of), my work day is over immediately so that I may prep the work. I just took the rest of the day off so that I can be ready to change a few config values and cycle a few services. Guess you're either going to start telling me things sooner or let me go. I love what I do (my projects are huuuuuge) but there's really only about 3 people that I work with on a regular basis that I'd save from a fire. MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Mar 23, 2016 16:35
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crunk dork posted:now that I'm done with school I've been messing around with some web design and Python stuff. Kinda smells like a DevOps-y combo to me. Would that interest you? Infrastructure knowledge with scripting/automation supporting hosted apps? Hot field to be in...
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Mar 23, 2016 16:39
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Dark Helmut posted:Kinda smells like a DevOps-y combo to me. Would that interest you? Infrastructure knowledge with scripting/automation supporting hosted apps? Hot field to be in... I was kind of thinking about this too, but I'm not really sure what day-to-day activities are for those types of positions. I'm already a Jon Hendren Certified DevOps Thoughtlord.
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Mar 23, 2016 16:47
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crunk dork posted:I was kind of thinking about this too, but I'm not really sure what day-to-day activities are for those types of positions. I'm already a Jon Hendren Certified DevOps Thoughtlord.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:07
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I have come to the conclusion that being a good sysadmin is 90% googlefu, 10% knowing which team in the org has the details you need to make a change(wtf is the route for this drat subnet!)
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Mar 23, 2016 17:08
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:Let's see how long I can get away with this one. My new, self-decided policy, is that if I am asked to make a change after hours, no matter how small, and have less than 24 hours notice (ie, I am told morning-of), my work day is over immediately so that I may prep the work. Are you a goon in a well job haver like turtlicious or dick trauma?
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Mar 23, 2016 17:21
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RFC2324 posted:I have come to the conclusion that being a good sysadmin is 90% googlefu, 10% knowing which team in the org has the details you need to make a change(wtf is the route for this drat subnet!)
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Mar 23, 2016 17:22
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crunk dork posted:now that I'm done with school I've been messing around with some web design and Python stuff. Yes, advanced security engineering positions involve a fair amount of integration and knowledge of web applications. Mastering multiple problem domains and understanding how everything works together is what separates network architects from the guys fulfilling change requests.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:22
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Security is great because you can learn any IT specialty you like and add "security" to the end to make 30% more.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:26
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Yeah it's as much of a buzz word these days as cloud. It's also a pretty vast field encompassing all sorts of poo poo, so it's about as much of a blanket term as saying "I work in IT." I'm speaking specifically to the infrastructure solutions side of things.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:32
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psydude posted:Yeah it's as much of a buzz word these days as cloud. It's also a pretty vast field encompassing all sorts of poo poo, so it's about as much of a blanket term as saying "I work in IT." I'm speaking specifically to the infrastructure solutions side of things. That's where I get confused. I started my degree before I actually started working in IT and the more I learn the more confusing and isolated different schools of "infosec" appear to be. Application security is extremely interesting to me but I'm not a computer science expert so it's all over my head at this point.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:38
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Vulture Culture posted:If your job is entirely break-fix work or working through implementation challenges and you have absolutely no operational responsibilities, maybe. I doubt Limoncelli/Hogan/Chalup would have written an entire book on this topic if the philosophy of doing it well could be distilled down into a one-liner. The existence of a book on a certain philosophy does not a mean that those things actually make sense. http://www.amazon.com/Pooh-Philosophers-Philosophy-Preamble-Winnie-The-Pooh/dp/0525455205 But while a certain way of thinking is needed to make sense of what you find, if thinking is work to you I don't know what to say.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:41
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crunk dork posted:That's where I get confused. I started my degree before I actually started working in IT and the more I learn the more confusing and isolated different schools of "infosec" appear to be. At a certain point, application and infrastructure security complement each other, especially when you have an application that management doesn't want to spend time and money to fix.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:41
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psydude posted:At a certain point, application and infrastructure security complement each other, especially when you have an application that management doesn't want to spend time and money to fix. Great, that's basically what I had narrowed it down to in my head. There shouldn't be separate solutions that are silo'd and security should overlap in some areas. Keith Barker had a good analogy for this where he compared layered security to being more like an artichoke than an onion.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:55
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RFC2324 posted:The existence of a book on a certain philosophy does not a mean that those things actually make sense.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:59
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Vulture Culture posted:This is a big reach to contradict a thesis that's basically "you can't Google yourself into a workable business continuity plan." I've never seen sysadmin involved in that more that occasionally pointing out the flaws in what management has come up with. Or do you see sysadmin as part of management? Tho this may have more to do with my background being entirely either enterprise of managed hosting.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:23
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If you're in an SMB a sysadmin would normally be involved in DR/BC planning.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:25
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I think it's more the point that sydadmins can be entirely self taught based on what comes up. Need to do dr? Look up plans that are out there, find a template on Google, apply it to the business model you're in. There's no previous experience required. You don't need to be trained in anything dr related to come up with a good dr plan, and that applies to just about everything in the field. Would any of us be able to do our job without search engines giving 90% of the answers we need?
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Mar 23, 2016 18:34
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RFC2324 posted:I've never seen sysadmin involved in that more that occasionally pointing out the flaws in what management has come up with. Or do you see sysadmin as part of management? Beyond DR and BC though, would you not admit that there's a huge difference between someone who's able to Google solutions reactively (albeit effectively), and those who are able to systematically plan their projects out ahead of time, schedule their days and just generally optimize their own methods of doing things (not just talking about scripting here)? I mean a lot of this can be learned behavior; IT people should by their nature recognize where things can be optimized and do what they can to do so, but they don't always look at themselves for that (for example, I'm posting here instead of working on a project). That's why those books exist and why those people are respected. Not to put words in Vulture Culture's mouth, but I'm pretty sure that tossing out business continuity plan was just an example of things that need to be learned or studied, and not Googled.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:36
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Beyond DR and BC though, would you not admit that there's a huge difference between someone who's able to Google solutions reactively (albeit effectively), and those who are able to systematically plan their projects out ahead of time, schedule their days and just generally optimize their own methods of doing things (not just talking about scripting here)? How is googling it not learning it? I don't mean just Google up an answer without thinking about it, but I'd bet you can find all the info you need to begin formulating a plan in an hour or 2 of research, and then the details specific to your org to get everything set up.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:58
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My "sysadmin" job has changed into more of an architect role over the years so I'm involved in the BCP/DR planning and holy god I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:59
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