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Luna
May 31, 2001

A hand full of seeds and a mouthful of dirt


redneck nazgul posted:

I get the feeling he wants to play in A minor.

Probably due to his D diminished when playing with adults.

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Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
Does anyone have a link possibly to the Presser? It's suppose to be coming up right?

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
Remember, they're politicians. They don't care because of the morals of the situation, they care because they stand to lose politically. Having a pedophile as a senator from your party is going to be politically damaging to Republicans. They're already looking at the potential of a democratic wave election in 2018, if the momentum from 2017 carries over.

They'd much rather lose his Senate seat and try to beat it and get it back in 2020 and likely succeed because it's Alabama than deal with a humongous blowout that cost them both houses in veto-proof majorities.

There is no doubt in my mind that they polled other races and found this is dragging them down already.

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

redneck nazgul posted:

I get the feeling he wants to play in A minor.

:drat:

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

evilweasel posted:

that's also a no win situation for them because you can bet democrats arent going to stop talking about it and the press will keep asking about it and the ads write themselves

'candidate x voted to keep a child molester in the senate just to get an extra vote to raise your taxes to cut taxes on the wealthy'

A threat in 2020 more than 18 as I think there’s only going to be like 2 Republicans up for re-election after the retirements and loses in the primaries. Still not an ad anyone wants to have to respond to.

Pron on VHS
Nov 14, 2005

Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling
The best part about True Lies is Bill Paxton. RIP Bill Paxton

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

Here is an import from the picture thread to distract you:

https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/929514377409052674

He's called Dragon Man and a real piece of poo poo.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

farraday posted:

A threat in 2020 more than 18 as I think there’s only going to be like 2 Republicans up for re-election after the retirements and loses in the primaries. Still not an ad anyone wants to have to respond to.

mitch also knows losing the house makes his and trump's life a living hell, and needing to defend child molesting is the sort of thing that could make the teneseee open seat winnable or make cruz even more unlikeable

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
Hillary Clinton is going to run again in 2020 so it doesn't matter.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

TheScott2K posted:

Luther Strange would have quietly had this fucker won months ago and voted in lockstep with Trump. Oh Alabama conservatives what have you done to yourselves

The rise of the screaming moron caucus hasn't been ALL bad.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/930153330604683264

this seems like a realistic possibility but i dunno if moore fans would cross over

nyt also reports they're mulling refusing to seat moore and appointing sessions as a result

https://twitter.com/Mr_Berman/status/930153590546731008

marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

I was sick of looking
at your stupid avatar
so
have a cool cat instead.

:v:
Switchblade Switcharoo
https://twitter.com/redtraccoon/status/929879246935293952

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Luna posted:

Probably due to his D diminished when playing with adults.

Nice try, but I think this is kind of Ab joke.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Chilichimp posted:

HOOHOOOHOOHOOOOOO

Is Session gonna try to write-in campaign for his old seat to GTFO out the justice department? GAT drat

actually keebler paid for the poll so

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

evilweasel posted:

...or make cruz even more unlikeable

You had me going until this,

Honestly though I agree my point is just on that specific ad almost no Republican would have to defend their vote on Moore’s hypothetical expulsion until 2020.

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe

evilweasel posted:

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/930153330604683264

this seems like a realistic possibility but i dunno if moore fans would cross over

nyt also reports they're mulling refusing to seat moore and appointing sessions as a result

If we want to do some game theory, I guess that would provide Sessions the cover needed to leave the DoJ and let Trump appoint someone who will fire Mueller.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

evilweasel posted:

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/930153330604683264

this seems like a realistic possibility but i dunno if moore fans would cross over

nyt also reports they're mulling refusing to seat moore and appointing sessions as a result

https://twitter.com/Mr_Berman/status/930153590546731008

Oh please oh please

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

evilweasel posted:

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/930129907874697216

i think this is true and basically means this election is now win-win

get a senate seat, or make republicans talk about how child molesters are actually ok for two years, or expel him and probably have him just run again

I'd rather win a Senate seat, but the Roy Moore Forever War would be entertaining.

and if he loses we might get it anyway, maybe he runs in the next Senate election screaming about the traitor swamp RINOs stabbing him in the back by claiming statutory rape is wrong

Roy Moore 2020: Right For Your Daughters. Right For America.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
the dumbest thing Nate has ever tweeted. A ton of journalists dunking on him in the replies.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/929902631094546432

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

evilweasel posted:

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/930153330604683264

this seems like a realistic possibility but i dunno if moore fans would cross over

nyt also reports they're mulling refusing to seat moore and appointing sessions as a result

https://twitter.com/Mr_Berman/status/930153590546731008

Then Moore can become Attorney General. It's perfect.

Throwing Turtles
May 3, 2015
In the early 90s one of Rush Limbaugh's most popular topics was bashing feminism and feminists. I don't remember all the details, but the timing is right for Gloria Allred to be on this list of women he bashed. In the early 90s right wing radio didn't really exist in peoples minds. It was just people talking about the news you heard at the top of the hour from your local station. So a lot of it leaked out. And to be honest, a lot of people agreed with it even if they didn't listen. Years later all people remember is that they don't really like her even if they don't know why, because honestly she isn't in the news often enough to draw this sort of reaction.

If nothing else Rush is really good at getting liberals to believe what he says about them.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

evilweasel posted:

that's also a no win situation for them because you can bet democrats arent going to stop talking about it and the press will keep asking about it and the ads write themselves

'candidate x voted to keep a child molester in the senate just to get an extra vote to raise your taxes to cut taxes on the wealthy'

Hell, why bother writing ads? Just let him have his spot on the national stage and run his mouth as much as he want and he'll do more damage to the GOP than ads could ever do.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Is there a stream to the presser?

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


ought ten posted:

You're right except about the statute. If the victim now coming forward is making an allegation about something that happened after 1985, there's no statute of limitations that would prevent her from bringing a charge.

He and his wife married in 1985. We don't know anything about this latest accusation yet, but I would hedge on it being some time before that.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Mendrian posted:

What I'm saying is that ultimately, I don't care if it's the best method available.

As awful as it is, sexual assault is a social issue. And changing the culture that causes it requires strategy to impact it. It has a level of seriousness beyond accusations just being a form of public group therapy. Activism requires strategy, and that doesn't cheapen experiences of victims.

quote:

For what it's worth accusing thread-goers of trying to 'stand in' for these women is a little dog-whistly.

They're literally acting as if me questioning them is the same thing as questioning the motives of a sexual assault victim. That is the way they are phrasing it. No whistles involved.

Xombie fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Nov 13, 2017

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Found a stream:

https://www.clickondetroit.com/live/live-stream-gloria-allred-holds-press-conference-with-roy-moore-accuser

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Your Taint posted:

Is there a stream to the presser?

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/roy_moore_alabama_sex_claims.html

website says one will be posted when made available

edit: taints link works. just some people preparing a desk for whoever will speak atm

ought ten
Feb 6, 2004

ReidRansom posted:

He and his wife married in 1985. We don't know anything about this latest accusation yet, but I would hedge on it being some time before that.

Good point. I didn't know that's when he got married.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/930155433318338564

guy should probably be in jail but, uh, after christie is out

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?
https://twitter.com/CahnEmily/status/930155589967208448?s=17

Edit: damnit!

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

Guessing there are 5-6D and 5-6Rs on that jury.

Would love to know how a governor blocks a federal electee from taking his seat.

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.
Most of the speculation sounds like what you’d get from people spitballing without much understanding or throwing out “what if” hypotheticals. The simplest plan (Strange write in) is by far the most likely. Everything else starts sounding like Hoise of Cards* one wierd trick scenarios.

* Topical molestation humor**!

**I am going to hell.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

evilweasel posted:

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/930155433318338564

guy should probably be in jail but, uh, after christie is out

Who the hell are they finding to put on juries that aren't handing out instant guilty verdicts in a corruption trial for a politician? :psyduck:

I don't even know what exactly he's accused of doing but like 90% of the population believes all politicians are inherently corrupt evil pricks with fair justification.

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005
It would be funny if Strange somehow got seated and Trump quietly tried to un-delete his deleted support tweets.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


ought ten posted:

Good point. I didn't know that's when he got married.

I had to look it up.

And I don't know enough about the guy to know if he's the habitual sexual predator type, or was just some kind of pathetic proto-incel chasing after teenagers because he wouldn't accept a woman that had been (or that he imagined to have been) with another man. I just get a sense it would have happened when he was still single though.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Lightning Knight posted:

Who the hell are they finding to put on juries that aren't handing out instant guilty verdicts in a corruption trial for a politician? :psyduck:

I don't even know what exactly he's accused of doing but like 90% of the population believes all politicians are inherently corrupt evil pricks with fair justification.

like 60+% of the population don't view corrupt politicians as completely reprehensible

or whatever that graph was saying posted in this thread yesterday

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

ought ten posted:

You're right except about the statute. If the victim now coming forward is making an allegation about something that happened after 1985, there's no statute of limitations that would prevent her from bringing a charge.

If this is post 1985 and she's filling criminal charges a) we are in a whole new ball game but b) why would she need a high profile civil litigation attorney?

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

skylined! posted:

like 60+% of the population don't view corrupt politicians as completely reprehensible

or whatever that graph was saying posted in this thread yesterday

Plus they aren't going to stack the jury with people who are gnashing their teeth at the opportunity to jail a politician.

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?

Bottom Liner posted:

the dumbest thing Nate has ever tweeted. A ton of journalists dunking on him in the replies.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/929902631094546432

What does journalism have to do with Sean Hannity?

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evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Lightning Knight posted:

Who the hell are they finding to put on juries that aren't handing out instant guilty verdicts in a corruption trial for a politician? :psyduck:

I don't even know what exactly he's accused of doing but like 90% of the population believes all politicians are inherently corrupt evil pricks with fair justification.

the supreme court made it basically impossible to convict

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