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TeeMerk posted:They are removing quirks and modules, refunding you the cbills and xp and work them into a new skill tree that looks to be a horrible grind compared to the current skill tree. Compared to the current tree its significantly more but you dont have to do it 2 more times on variants you dont like anymore. So you're spending a bit more time and significantly less CB since there are fewer DHS taxes to pay.
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Again, I would wait until it gets on PTS before getting too concerned about the cost of the trees. That video had listings for weapon skills for hardpoints the Mech shown didn't have. Each Mech is supposed to have its own tree too so this looked like a generic version to show what's possible rather than what each Mech will actually have. If it shows up as shown in the video then start up the  I guess?
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Oh, if the trees are unique then I guess it's not that different from quirks other than that you have to buy them.
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The idea seems to be quirks you customize and level to fit your playstyle, as filtered through what the mech has available.
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lol @ new players that are going to be running up against the grognards that are able to run 30% more mech than them. I hope they give the mechs just a basic default nonoptimized not-quirk loadout that can make them competitive. Making it suck to be a new player even more would be terrible for any attempt at growing the player base. Commoners fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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Commoners posted:lol @ new players that are going to be running up against the grognards that are able to run 30% more mech than them. This is a problem, but it's not like it doesn't exist already. Any mech with double basics is vastly superior to one that doesn't due to heat alone, and that's before you get into speed tweak.
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Cyrano4747 posted:This is a problem, but it's not like it doesn't exist already. Any mech with double basics is vastly superior to one that doesn't due to heat alone, and that's before you get into speed tweak. Yeah, but this widens the gap. Imagine a fresh vindicator with no quirks fighting against one that has the combination soup of quirks + modules + skills that this skill tree system is replacing. Currently a mech loaded out with modules and skills gets 15ish% across the board for things like cooling, heat capacity, speed, acceleration, weapon cooldowns, etc. If those quirk baselines are getting the hatchet then the stat floor is being dropped out from underneath a whole lot of the mechs that have to be heavily quirked to be competitive with their counterparts.
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Fil5000 posted:The one with FIVE MEMORY CORES?! How can you possibly hope to defeat him with just one core?!
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By plugging five star league era space hard disks into my robot I have created the ultimate weapon.
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Make escort mech this Problem Solved.
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veedubfreak posted:Other than the 4uac5 one which is real bucks, I have not been impressed. The Child Protective Services with all the uac5s in the world bearing down on someone is pretty fun. But don't give Don't forget the one that is loving made of missiles. I don't own them so I can't verify fully but I can verify that they are terrifying to run into, kills pretty much anything in the game in one shot, two at most. fake edit: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=435&l=8ee0a87e78e144c9459710e9c8a820dcb7a98a89 something like this I guess, or you could drop the CT launcher so you can fit Artemis. Most of these things I see running around have XL engines which seems completely dumb so this one doesn't and it's still fast with lots of ammo. Mood: Annoyed
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Rysithusiku posted:Make escort mech this Obsolete. What part of Poptart's playthrough was that in? I want to read about how well it did.
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turn it up TURN ME ON posted:Obsolete.
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turn it up TURN ME ON posted:Obsolete. Obsolete is a trait that means "any replacement parts have to be custom made at great expense." As a one-off prototype built entirely as a vanity piece, the Nergal was automatically obsolete the moment it was finished. It appeared during Nergal Reactor where it was revealed on Turn 4. It kicks a Summoner's leg off and spikes another Clanner through the cockpit with its lance.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Obsolete is a trait that means "any replacement parts have to be custom made at great expense." As a one-off prototype built entirely as a vanity piece, the Nergal was automatically obsolete the moment it was finished. Spoilers! But sweet, it looks rad as gently caress. Is there a handy guide to what all those quirks mean?
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Sarna.net is blocked at work but you can search for 'quirks' and it should get you the list. I just list hardened armor as a quirk since it effectively doubles a `Mech's armor and hinders piloting tests.
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I think the obvious solution to the trial mech problem is to give the trial mechs a 'champion' treatment where they have a set amount of skills that compliment the loadout. The added bonus is that after playing a trial and accumulating some xp, if you buy the mech (new player point of view) you will have some idea where to level it, and not be totally boned. This keeps that same 'functionality' that exists now when you upgrade from a trial mech.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/OutreachHPG/comments/5gvynh/new_skill_tree_clarifications/quote:Re-spec cost I don't have numbers for you but will use tried and true F2P game mechanic of time versus money ENGAGE FULL AHEAD
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NihilCredo posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/OutreachHPG/comments/5gvynh/new_skill_tree_clarifications/ Someone mentions how this kills experimenting, gets a line about ~choices having consequences~ 
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I just looked at Faction War and  godamn Jade Falcons
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Think about this: despite the special snowflakes, and uber murdermets, etc. most xp is divided among multiple chassis, due to the old system of having to basic 3. With the new system, players wanting to achieve the same level of performance that they had pre-patch will have every incentive to spend on premium (and even xp conversion if that still exists, somehow) just to bridge the gap. Add in a skill reset that either costs MC or re-ups your incentive to buy premium, I think it's possible there is more extraction per customer in this model. ,/speculation.
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I haven't played in forever I am considering reinstalling for a few rounds. Is there much difference between using the steam or the default client? Can I even use my old account with the steam client? Any significant changes I should give a sheet about? EDIT: WTF the steam rating is overall positive!? 
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NihilCredo posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/OutreachHPG/comments/5gvynh/new_skill_tree_clarifications/ I somehow am continually surprised at how loving awful PGI is.
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Hoboskins posted:I haven't played in forever I am considering reinstalling for a few rounds. Is there much difference between using the steam or the default client? Can I even use my old account with the steam client? Game is good. Welcome back.
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NihilCredo posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/OutreachHPG/comments/5gvynh/new_skill_tree_clarifications/ Hah, holy poo poo, get hosed PGI. This just kills any experimentation. There will be zero reason to build anything but the approved known good metamech builds because the cost of fixing your mistakes will be prohibitive. It's not like I'm totally opposed to spending on this game either. My nostalgia for fake robots has gotten me to get drunk and stupid with my wallet more than once. Paying to re-spec is just loving slimy though.
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Heffay posted:Game is good. Welcome back. You've waited 10 months for this one poo poo post.
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Skoll posted:You've waited 10 months for this one poo poo post. 
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Two in a row? Let's see how long you can keep the combo going!
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Lowtax thanks long time MWO white knights for their  .
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With the incoming loss of the quirks, is it worth buying a Locust 1V? It will lose its niche when the skills come, right? Edit: Though I suppose I will still be able to gently caress around with it for a month or two before it happens? Artificer fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Dec 7, 2016 |
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aniviron posted:Two in a row? Let's see how long you can keep the combo going! That second one is p. good, though.
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It'd be better if there were inverse kinematics in the animation.
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Bentai posted:It'd be better if there were inverse kinematics in the animation. There are. It's just lovely animation work. I figure since my twerking Urbie has been used here for over a year, you guys needed some fresh material.
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Artificer posted:I somehow am continually surprised at how loving awful PGI is. Heffay posted:Game is good. Welcome back. You decide.
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Heffay posted:There are. It's just lovely animation work. Enjoy your first steps on the path to goondom. The rabbit hole goes deeper than Games.
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I cannot fathom why the CMH pubbie space clan hates me .
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Skoll posted:Enjoy your first steps on the path to goondom. The rabbit hole goes deeper than Games. I've been here a long time. Content creation is what originally brought me here. SA forums have a long and storied history of some rather remarkable poo poo, which I find immensely enjoyable. Reading the MWO forums is just a side hobby of mine. 
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Heffay posted:I've been here a long time. Content creation is what originally brought me here. SA forums have a long and storied history of some rather remarkable poo poo, which I find immensely enjoyable. Reading the MWO forums is just a side hobby of mine. Guess you've given Lowtax  then.
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Secretly they are a FYAD poster and their post count will soon return to 0 in their effort to maintain perfect balance.
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My poor PPC awesome  .
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