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Xun posted:Waiiiit a minute I just finished rereading Pariah recently Eisenhorn has Alpharius working with him? Like the primarch dude? The Emperors Children marine recognized him sir it’s maaayybbee legit. What the gently caress?!. (Spoilers just in case) I've only read the original trilogy and thought "I'll look at it, how big of a spoiler can it really be" and lmao.
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Syncopated posted:I've only read the original trilogy and thought "I'll look at it, how big of a spoiler can it really be" and lmao. I've yet to read a single 40k book and I agree.
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Given the context of the spoiler, how would you know if they were fibbing? I mean their gimmick has reached meme status at this point.
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As long as we're doing PYF 1d4chan fiction: Gav and Bob.  E: MUST. RESIST. URGE. TO READ SPOILER. SO CLOSE. TO FINISHING PARIAH... EE: I'm the poor punctuation. 
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I read Pariah and I don't remember any of that but I was thoroughly underwhelmed and didn't enjoy the book so idk.
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:Given the context of the spoiler, how would you know if they were fibbing? I mean their gimmick has reached meme status at this point. Yeah I didn’t know that alpha marines all refer to themselves like alpharius, but the emperors children marine was definitely like “you?! Impossible!” But I guess it could be shock that the dude he was fighting was a disguised marine? Idk though I guess I’m dumb.
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Really, it's virtually impossible to draw any definite conclusions from that scene (as intended, I'm sure).quote:Teke closed for the kill.
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Xun posted:Yeah I didn’t know that alpha marines all refer to themselves like alpharius, but the emperors children marine was definitely like “you?! Impossible!” But I guess it could be shock that the dude he was fighting was a disguised marine? Idk though I guess I’m dumb. More pariah spoilers The rejected sailor moon villain level of camp that EC displayed with all his flower petal warp sorcery was amazing, he also may have bolted since he just had to 1v5 a bunch of word bearers and figured the Alpha Legionnaire wasn't alone. Whatever plan he had he was so far off script he pretty much bolted upon running into yet another unexpected traitor legion active on the planet.
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Going to have to finish it tonight so I can catch up on this loving thread.
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I finished The Magos today. I enjoyed having the collection of short stories. For The Strange Death of Titus Endor was the entire story just the dying delusions of Titus suffering from the brainworms? And for the end of The Magos is... is Eisenhorn a daemonhost now? Is that why Cherubael is terrified into obedience during the timeskip? I don't remember anything from Pariah even hinting at what happened in The Magos.
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Randalor posted:I finished The Magos today. I enjoyed having the collection of short stories. Magos spoilers it certainly puts a new spin on ravenors attitude in pariah that’s for sure. I don’t think eisenhorn is a daemonhost though I think he’s been made into some sort of warp conduit and if his willpower fails he will become a doorway for a greater plague demon just like that other guy.
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I know I'm real late to this, but I just watched Ultramarines tonight. I hated it. I didn't hate it because it was boring, or because the characters were one-dimensional, or because the action was dull and lifeless, or because the story was the absolute thinnest thing they could come up with to have things continue to happen, or because the Chaos Space Marines had the individuality, personality and battle tactics of Tyranids, or because they got the background music by hiring Jimmy's Discount Latin Chanters for a half hour. I hated it because at some point very early on in the production somebody said, "hey, I just realized that if we make literally every character an armored Space Marine, we'll only have to make one animation rig for the whole movie!" And everybody else was like, that's a loving great idea, dude.
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Guy Goodbody posted:I know I'm real late to this, but I just watched Ultramarines tonight. I hated it. I didn't hate it because it was boring, or because the characters were one-dimensional, or because the action was dull and lifeless, or because the story was the absolute thinnest thing they could come up with to have things continue to happen, or because the Chaos Space Marines had the individuality, personality and battle tactics of Tyranids, or because they got the background music by hiring Jimmy's Discount Latin Chanters for a half hour. Well, good work Guy, you've killed the Black Library thread. Also: it sounds like Ultramarines was as bad as I heard it was.
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The Ultramarines movie excels in exactly two areas: its soundtrack, and its voice acting. Then again you can't really go wrong with Sean Pertwee, Terrence Stamp and John Hurt. Even when they're phoning it in those guys sound great.
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Based on the praise it was getting in this thread I read Baneblade and liked it a lot. However I now have this urge to spend entirely too much money on an injection molded plastic toy I have to assemble and paint myself. Any other books with bits from an Ork perspective like Baneblade did? Guyver fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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Guyver posted:Any other books with bits from an Ork perspective like Baneblade did? I know Guy Haley did one short story or something from an ork perspective. Sadly the name eludes me right now but the overall consensus that I recall from this thread was that it wasn't all that great.
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Guyver posted:Based on the praise it was getting in this thread I read Baneblade and liked it a lot. However I now have this urge to spend entirely too much money on an injection molded plastic toy I have to assemble and paint myself. Cooked Auto posted:I know Guy Haley did one short story or something from an ork perspective. Sadly the name eludes me right now but the overall consensus that I recall from this thread was that it wasn't all that great. The short story you're talking about might be Engine of Mork? I want to say there was another one about a Kommando that ended with him stepping on a mine maybe? but I can't remember what it was called. The problem (at least for me) is that reading phonetic liverpudlian patois for more than a paragraph or two at a time rapidly loses its charm and I can't imagine writing it is that much more rewarding. If you haven't already and you're looking for Ork-voiced fluff I'd check out Deff Skwadron or 'Ere We Go or Waaargh the Orks! or maybe Freebooters but none of them really have long-form prose because, like I said, I think it gets old quickly. Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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Maybe perspective isn't the right word. Focused? Have the orks as actual characters and not random green monsters. Maybe there's a lot like that out there but I'm pretty new to reading 40k.
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Guyver posted:Based on the praise it was getting in this thread I read Baneblade and liked it a lot. However I now have this urge to spend entirely too much money on an injection molded plastic toy I have to assemble and paint myself. Baneblade was what finally tipped me over the edge into starting a Guard army.
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Quick lore question about which Google has not helped me: are there any known instances of Iron Hands falling to Chaos?
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PantsOptional posted:Quick lore question about which Google has not helped me: are there any known instances of Iron Hands falling to Chaos? There's that time Ferrus Manus's head fell off its neck to Chaos.
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PantsOptional posted:Quick lore question about which Google has not helped me: are there any known instances of Iron Hands falling to Chaos? There is a small section in the Horus Heresy Massacre book regarding possible IH squads going renegade. Initially sent reeling and psychologically devestated, the Iron Hands Legion's survivors fractured, and the full story of what happened to the scions remains clouded to this day. It is known, however, that some Clans reorganised a council of Iron-Fathers on Medusa to take charge of the ravaged Legion, and speeded the recruitment and creation of new Space Marines from the extensive stores of gene-seed kept there with the goal of rebuilding the Legion. Alongside this, it is widely believed that i the aftermath, some Iron Hands units and in some cases, entire Clans shunned the Medusan Council's assumed authority and went their own way, consumed by their own hatred and need for revenge. These fractured forces fought their own war and it is widely believed that some delved into the use of dark and forbidden forces from humanity's ancient past to do so, although this has been strenuously denied since by the Iron Hands Clan Council. What cannot be contested, however, is that other lone Iron Hands and small scattered groups cast off their Legion's livery entirely and either fought on alone or went renegade-Iron Hands no more.
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PantsOptional posted:Quick lore question about which Google has not helped me: are there any known instances of Iron Hands falling to Chaos? AndyElusive posted:There's that time Ferrus Manus's head fell off its neck to Chaos. I think we're done here, folks.
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AndyElusive posted:There's that time Ferrus Manus's head fell off its neck to Chaos. lol
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AndyElusive posted:There's that time Ferrus Manus's head fell off its neck to Chaos. 
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Abyss posted:There is a small section in the Horus Heresy Massacre book regarding possible IH squads going renegade. It's ambiguous as to whether it's full-on Chaos, though. They might just be disillusioned as poo poo in the wake of their Primarch dying, and not 100% on board with the appointed Iron-Fathers. Some might have gone Blackshield as in loyal to the Imperium but not to the Iron Hands, some might have hosed off to the galactic fringe to set up their own independent empires, some might have decided that Chaos was the winning strategy and embraced it enthusiastically or with a "guess this is the way things are now" attitude. Unlike 40k where lines are pretty stark, there's room in the 30k universe for loyalists and traitors from every Legion. The traitors from Loyalist legions are a little underrepresented in the story IMHO, but you've got stuff like the White Scars contingent and the Dark Angels.
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Pyrolocutus posted:the Dark Angels. Wait, I thought you were talking about traitors in loyalist legions though? 
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Pyrolocutus posted:It's ambiguous as to whether it's full-on Chaos, though. They might just be disillusioned as poo poo in the wake of their Primarch dying, and not 100% on board with the appointed Iron-Fathers. Some might have gone Blackshield as in loyal to the Imperium but not to the Iron Hands, some might have hosed off to the galactic fringe to set up their own independent empires, some might have decided that Chaos was the winning strategy and embraced it enthusiastically or with a "guess this is the way things are now" attitude. There's a recurring ship in a few short stories that's full of Iron Hands who have frozen their dead marines and are bringing them back to life, like Loyalist Rubricae, to fight for them. They end up murdering a whole bunch of loyalist Iron Hands who don't agree with what they're doing. It's unclear whether this lot will have an arc or if they were just flavour marines for some decent stories.
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a lovely king posted:There's a recurring ship in a few short stories that's full of Iron Hands who have frozen their dead marines and are bringing them back to life, like Loyalist Rubricae, to fight for them. They end up murdering a whole bunch of loyalist Iron Hands who don't agree with what they're doing. It's unclear whether this lot will have an arc or if they were just flavour marines for some decent stories. Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. There are two stories - Keys of Hel and Riven, I think, that show what they did.
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The Talon of Horus is awesome. I never much liked chaos but thank GW there aren’t good modern generic chaos marine minis or I’d have a new project.
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a lovely king posted:There's a recurring ship in a few short stories that's full of Iron Hands who have frozen their dead marines and are bringing them back to life, like Loyalist Rubricae, to fight for them. They end up murdering a whole bunch of loyalist Iron Hands who don't agree with what they're doing. It's unclear whether this lot will have an arc or if they were just flavour marines for some decent stories. These are the same guys that make the crazy weird shambling monster/robot out of ferrus manus corpse or atleast one of his arms right?
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a lovely king posted:There's a recurring ship in a few short stories that's full of Iron Hands who have frozen their dead marines and are bringing them back to life, like Loyalist Rubricae, to fight for them. They end up murdering a whole bunch of loyalist Iron Hands who don't agree with what they're doing. It's unclear whether this lot will have an arc or if they were just flavour marines for some decent stories. Aren't there also rumours of Ferrus Manus coming back in 40k (or he already is, and he's leading the Legion of the Damned or some weird thing)? Thematically, it'd make sense if those fuckers forced him back to life in a form that was 100% mechanical--you know, that thing he despised and warned his sons against a million times. ("Legion of the Damned" also works with "Keys of Hel.")
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Zasze posted:These are the same guys that make the crazy weird shambling monster/robot out of ferrus manus corpse or atleast one of his arms right? I don't think they were. From what I remember that was created by a council of Iron Fathers, whereas the ship full of zombie robot Iron Hands is it's own deal? I think? It's been a while since I read them but I don't recall them showing up outside of their own stories.
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Schadenboner posted:Wait, I thought you were talking about traitors in loyalist legions though? 
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DirtyRobot posted:Aren't there also rumours of Ferrus Manus coming back in 40k (or he already is, and he's leading the Legion of the Damned or some weird thing)? A Primarch-Dreadnaught would be pretty sick.
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DirtyRobot posted:Aren't there also rumours of Ferrus Manus coming back in 40k (or he already is, and he's leading the Legion of the Damned or some weird thing)? Well, the whole gorgon/medusa thing that is associated with the Iron Hands would lead one to believe that their primarch's severed head would be of some sort of importance later on... assuming they were able to recover it from the traitors in the first place.
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If it wasn't for no-effort, I wouldn't have no effort at all. E: Wait, poo poo...
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Fearless posted:Well, the whole gorgon/medusa thing that is associated with the Iron Hands would lead one to believe that their primarch's severed head would be of some sort of importance later on... assuming they were able to recover it from the traitors in the first place. Doesn't fabulous Bill have it? Fake edit: auto correct too good. I'm keeping that
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Immanentized posted:Doesn't fabulous Bill have it? I think so? I also seem to remember a line in the second of the 30k campaign books that mentioned that the Iron Hands were able to recover it.
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Immanentized posted:Doesn't fabulous Bill have it? What did autocorrect do?
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