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davebo posted:Am I just spoiled by Corvette aerodynamics or is 21mpg highway kind of garbage even for a 4k lbs sedan? Regular v8 charger has less hp than the SS; 370 vs 415.
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All Chargers get better fuel economy than SS. Keyser S0ze posted:My BMW F10 535 4,180 lb battle cruiser gets nearly 30mpg hwy chilling at 70......I only have 6 (manually activated) gears, too.  The Charger is larger than a 7 series, your little babby car is comparable to the 200.
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holy crap, it feels giant to me. I think the 300c is still around 193 inches long though right?
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Nov 27, 2014 03:56
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More like 198. That's the 200 on that chart.
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Nov 27, 2014 04:03
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Ho ho ho. Our F02 is 205 in. and weighs about 4,600 lbs. And gets 18-19 mpg on long trips. Jeez, what a barge.
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Nov 27, 2014 04:20
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The Challenger has this (one) weird trick of sometimes looking huge and other times looking almost normal.
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Nov 27, 2014 04:51
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El Scotch posted:The Challenger has this (one) weird trick of sometimes looking huge and other times looking almost normal. No, it always looks like a big fatty: 
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It's crazy to me just how heavy cars have gotten. For over ten years I drove a 2002 Monte Carlo that was 198 inches long and only weighed 3340lbs. But I guess it all evens out because now I've got way more power in a slightly heavier car and I'm still getting better mpg.
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HotCanadianChick posted:No, it always looks like a big fatty: if that old Chally was parked next to a period 'Cuda you get almost the same effect
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Nov 27, 2014 10:38
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VikingSkull posted:if that old Chally was parked next to a period 'Cuda you get almost the same effect ...and the current Challenger would look as big as Jupiter...
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So it looks like the ILX will finally get what it should of had when it was introduced like 3 years ago, anyone drive the TLX with the 8DCT?
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Koirhor posted:So it looks like the ILX will finally get what it should of had when it was introduced like 3 years ago, anyone drive the TLX with the 8DCT? I had no idea the current ILX only had a 150hp motor. That is absolutely mental for a car pushing 30k.
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Bovril Delight posted:I had no idea the current ILX only had a 150hp motor. That is absolutely mental for a car pushing 30k. Whoa, seriously? I always thought they were like a 200HP K series or something.
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Nov 27, 2014 18:04
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As far as I know, the old TSX motor with a 6spd manual has been an option in the ILX since they came out. But the base ILX is some sorry poo poo indeed.
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Nov 27, 2014 18:25
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You can get the current Si drivetrain in it for $29k and change, as an option.
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Q_res posted:You can get the current Si drivetrain in it for $29k and change, as an option. Not exactly. The ISX didn't have the limited slip. That, the lack of tech package, and the 6K price premium over the Si is why no one bought that trim. It's now being phased out, and all ISX's will have the base TLX drivetrain.
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Nov 27, 2014 19:26
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Acura's naming scheme blows rear end. Much like their car lineup. Bring back the Legend!
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Phone posted:Acura's naming scheme blows rear end. Much like their car lineup. Or the Integra (poo poo, even the TSX and the old TL. Those cars were loving good looking in 2005) 
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Taco Box posted:Or the Integra (poo poo, even the TSX and the old TL. Those cars were loving good looking in 2005) I'm trying to think what a modern Integra would be like. It couldn't be anything close to what it was in the 90s because nobody would buy it. If it's going to be "sporty" then it has to at least be better than the Accord coupe, which is already over $30k. This segment is just too hard to be in for Acura because Honda offer great cars for much cheaper. At least with Lexus the IS is RWD, so there's some differentiation. The Germans have no internal competition to worry about with their entry-level offerings. Honda needs to develop distinct platforms for Acura, or better yet, just fill their lineup with crossovers.
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Acura is selling gangbusters to people who want a honda but don't want a honda badge. The majority of the luxury car market is full of old boring shitlords who are the reason the ZDX exists. As an enthusiast, it's best to just forget they ever made anything good, and ignore the brand completely.
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Nov 28, 2014 04:36
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Oh yes, you shall be mine. In about 6 months, and without that horrid colour. In manual please.  God bless salary packaging.
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El Scotch posted:The Challenger has this (one) weird trick of sometimes looking huge and other times looking almost normal. HotCanadianChick posted:No, it always looks like a big fatty: 
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Road_Warrior posted:Oh yes, you shall be mine. In about 6 months, and without that horrid colour. In manual please. Nice choice. So sad that'll be the last of the Falcon, but it's good they have given it a bit of a redesign before it goes out, rather than let it soldier on with the 2008 design
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Nov 28, 2014 05:18
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Cage posted:I always used to think my car was kind of big until: 
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You Am I posted:Nice choice. So sad that'll be the last of the Falcon, but it's good they have given it a bit of a redesign before it goes out, rather than let it soldier on with the 2008 design Yes they could have just shut the doors last year and be done with it, but they came good with their promise and brought us this last one. I figure by mid-next year the hoo-haa and initial demand will have died down and stealership prices will be more modest.
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Cage posted:I always used to think my car was kind of big until:
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Nov 28, 2014 07:21
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Beep beep! You could fit two AZ-1s in that thing...
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oRenj9 posted:I'm trying to think what a modern Integra would be like. It couldn't be anything close to what it was in the 90s because nobody would buy it. If it's going to be "sporty" then it has to at least be better than the Accord coupe, which is already over $30k. The ISX is a modern Integra. Remember that most Integras were just tarted up Civics.
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88h88 posted:Beep beep! If those two got in a head-on crash, I think the GMC would just run that little thing over and crush the occupants neatly. 
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oRenj9 posted:I'm trying to think what a modern Integra would be like. It couldn't be anything close to what it was in the 90s because nobody would buy it. If it's going to be "sporty" then it has to at least be better than the Accord coupe, which is already over $30k. A modern Integra would be the 86/BRZ
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PeterWeller posted:The ISX is a modern Integra. Remember that most Integras were just tarted up Civics. The Integra initially slotted in between the Civic and Accord and was always its own distinct model (although it did share a lot with the Civic)
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Mange Mite posted:A modern Integra would be the 86/BRZ In spirit, yes, but in what Honda is serving us and expecting us to eat and like every bite, the ILX (a tarted Civic) is it.
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There's no Mazda dealership within several hundred KM of my so I haven't had the opportunity to drive one yet, but everything I've read about the Mazda3's chassis and suspension design and dynamics suggests that the upcoming Mazdaspeed3 will be your modern ITR.
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dissss posted:The Integra initially slotted in between the Civic and Accord and was always its own distinct model (although it did share a lot with the Civic) It was based on the civic with a few upgrades and never had its own platform. It was a slightly bigger, slightly nicer, slightly sportier, or in other words, tarted up Civic. Aside from the size thing and disregarding the Si, that describes the ILX. YF19pilot posted:In spirit, yes, but in what Honda is serving us and expecting us to eat and like every bite, the ILX (a tarted Civic) is it. The FRS is maybe a spritual successor to the GSR or ITR, but it's definitely not a spiritual successor to the LS trims.
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PeterWeller posted:It was based on the civic with a few upgrades and never had its own platform. It was a slightly bigger, slightly nicer, slightly sportier, or in other words, tarted up Civic. Aside from the size thing and disregarding the Si, that describes the ILX. It was its own platform and its own distinct model. e. I'm probably misusing the term 'platform' dissss fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Dec 1, 2014 |
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dissss posted:It was its own platform and its own distinct model. It was totally a distinct model, but it was based on the Civic. What I mean by 'platform' is that its hardpoints and basic layout are derived from its Civic contemporary. It's more than just a badge engineering deal, but it's still closely based on the parent design. It was essentially a Civic+, which accurately describes the ILX, especially the updated version.
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General Wiggles posted:If those two got in a head-on crash, I think the GMC would just run that little thing over and crush the occupants neatly. If you were driving the GMC I doubt you'd even notice if you'd ran over the AZ-1.
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dissss posted:It was its own platform and its own distinct model. It was a variant of the Civic platform, not a distinct architecture. The ILX is literally exactly the same as the Integra, there just isn't a particularly sporty version that's any good.
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GM has apprently made it a goal to drive Acura out of business - Buick has recreated Acura's lineup pretty much model for model, except the 2.4l is standard and you can actually get the 2.0T with a stick.
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