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Mraagvpeine posted:Would watching other David Lynch movies like Blue Velvet add something to the Twin Peaks experience? FWWM is fantastic but if you don't know what to expect and are disappointed by the shortage of Kyle MacLachlan in that movie, Blue Velvet could go a long way toward filling that young Kyle shaped hole in your life. I watched Mulholland Dr. for the first time sometime after watching season 3, and I was struck by how many themes from season 3 were also present in that movie, down to the similarities in their endings, specifically the twist at the end of Mulholland Dr. and the Richard and Linda twist in the final episode. If you find one interesting, there's a good chance that you'll find the other interesting, too. e: Mantis42 posted:Mulholland Drive is like Twin Peaks in a microcosm. It's a cancelled TV show turned movie that radically recontextualizes itself like halfway through. Yeah, reading about the making of Mulholland Drive adds to the Twin Peaks experience just as much as actually viewing the movie. Blotto_Otter fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Mraagvpeine posted:Would watching other David Lynch movies like Blue Velvet add something to the Twin Peaks experience? Mantis42 posted:Mulholland Drive is like Twin Peaks in a microcosm. It's a cancelled TV show turned movie that radically recontextualizes itself like halfway through. The main theme I am talking about is his use of doppelgangers, and the way they are used to examine self. How they can represent the comforting lies we tell ourselves, and create a foundation for our identity. Twin peaks IMO is ultimately about coopers fractured sense of self. You also get a lot of weird dreamlike reality bending.
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eSporks posted:Seeing that episode for the first time was pure magic. I have never experienced a TV or movie experience that incredible. This is not hyperbole either, its an amazing and indescribable experience. Lots of other great moments in s3 too, and lets make sure not to spoil it for the pastor. Seriously, I was mouth agape through almost the entirety of that magical episode, probably the best single episode of a television show I have ever seen in my life.
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Sep 23, 2020 23:33
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The Evolution of Horror podcast is covering a bunch of Lynch stuff in its current series, which has been great. The guy also made the best and easiest to follow MD explanation video I've seen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8JmaTQoZ_Q
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Mullholland Drive is easy to figure out if ya watch it 5 or 6 times. It really is a fantastic movie.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, I know this year has enough of it. Today, David Lynches coffee machine broke down. Please everyone send your thoughts his way. https://youtu.be/msgcpaPcU_I
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eSporks posted:I hate to be the bearer of bad news, I know this year has enough of it. Today, David Lynches coffee machine broke down. Please everyone send your thoughts his way. I'm sure he'll make a new and impractical one out of wood in his machine shop, to go with the wooden sink and fold out urinal.
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Sep 27, 2020 00:48
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I hope we get a video of making him making an espresso machine out of a 2x4.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:20
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Twin Peaks - The Return is not a show to be binge watched or to be left running in the background
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eSporks posted:I hope we get a video of making him making an espresso machine out of a 2x4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txPcLOtbG3s If only he can find one that is the right size.
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1313331900312743936 I'm so sleepy, Audrey 
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drat I'd been enjoying his Blacklist role lately more than ever. He sure burned bright at the end there.
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Oct 6, 2020 12:33
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He was a fantastic addition to season 3 of Twin Peaks, he felt like he fit perfectly into that weird world right from his very first (and very sleepy) scene, and I loved the weird mixture of henpecked husband and obvious authority figure who Audrey was uneasy being around he managed to get across in such a relatively low amount of screen time.
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A lot of people say the felt frustrated by the Dougie stuff the first time through S3, but he and Audrey's scenes (before they got to the Roadhouse) were what drove me bonkers with frustration. In the best possible way.
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Yeah, the Audrey scenes were frustrating because they perfectly captured the feeling of trying to do something in a dream, but never being quite able to do it.
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It was different having to wait a week between episodes, the desire to see coop was strong
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romanowski posted:this is such a sadness especially since the cast keeps passing away 
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HD DAD posted:Yeah, the Audrey scenes were frustrating because they perfectly captured the feeling of trying to do something in a dream, but never being quite able to do it. Wow that is an amazing way to put it.
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I went back a few pages to check and I've not seen anything about it, so I wanted to ask. Is anyone familiar with Twin Perfects analysis of Twin Peaks? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AYnF5hOhuM It's a bit of a weird take but as someone who really didn't understand much of season 3 it makes some sort of sense. But it's really quite an "out there" explanation, so I don't want to take it as gospel since I don't really have the grounding to make my own decision.
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Oct 12, 2020 22:14
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Oct 12, 2020 22:42
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not gonna lie, I've never listened to or watched anyone else's interpretation of twin peaks and have next to zero desire to do so
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hawowanlawow posted:not gonna lie, I've never listened to or watched anyone else's interpretation of twin peaks and have next to zero desire to do so Well thats good for you, but I don't really have the capacity or the words to fully interpret it and I rely on other sources to give me the words and meanings I need. So, sincerely, I'm happy you're able to get something out of Twin Peaks without outside help but not everyone is as lucky or as capable as you.
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Oct 12, 2020 22:48
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Twin Peaks isn’t something that has a magical explanation that ties it all together and if it did it wouldn’t be “David Lynch thinks TV is Bad, Actually”
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OscarDiggs posted:Well thats good for you, but I don't really have the capacity or the words to fully interpret it and I rely on other sources to give me the words and meanings I need. So, sincerely, I'm happy you're able to get something out of Twin Peaks without outside help but not everyone is as lucky or as capable as you. this is sad, you sell yourself short
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I don't have a problem with attempting to interpret Twin Peaks, I just have no interest in watching that one because:Escobarbarian posted:Twin Peaks isn’t something that has a magical explanation that ties it all together and if it did it wouldn’t be “David Lynch thinks TV is Bad, Actually” IMO Lynch has made it clear that Twin Peaks is meant to be a mystery that defies explanation, rather than a secret to be discovered. I don't think there's meant to be a clean, unifying, canonical explanation to Twin Peaks... but if there is, I agree, I don't think it's "this medium is so bad I just devoted another 18 hours to it". If you get through the end of season 3 and are asking "what the hell just happened", I think you'd get better mileage and have more fun watching Mulholland Dr., then reading an interpretation or two of Mulholland Dr., and then rewatching the opening scene of s3e1. (Edit: and you can do that in half the run-time of that youtube video!)
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It's fine to watch it, just take it with a grain of salt and watch/read some different commentaries too so you don't get tracked into thinking that's the only way to interpret TP. I can't seem to find it now, but there's a dude on Reddit (LouMing something or other) who's doing a scene by scene of the Return that focuses on it all as a Laura Palmer dreamscape. It took him maybe 40 posts to get through the first couple of episodes and he's probably going to run out of steam to finish it all but something like that is a good antidote before you get tracked into thinking twin peaks is exclusively a commentary on modern media.
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OscarDiggs posted:I went back a few pages to check and I've not seen anything about it, so I wanted to ask. I watched that whole thing one day and he raises some interesting points but I don't think he solved the Twin Peaks mystery. In fact, I think it's a mystery for a reason and shouldn't be solved.
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As with most things David Lynch, there isn’t really anything to solve. It’s pure impression and instinct and exists solely to convey a feeling. There might be some solid narrative structure as a vague backbone, but that’s about it.
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Escobarbarian posted:It sucks rear end
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I agree that there is no one true answer to explain season 3, but I really enjoy the theory from waggish.org that explains it as the Carrie Page universe as a trap to catch Judy. It gives the ending a purpose in a way i find comforting. Conversely, I also like the idea that no matter what Dale does, he can't beat the Lodge entities, because he's just a man, so in the end, nothing is solved.
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I assume there are many good articles and/or video essays out there to engage with that aren't 4.5 hours of bullshit titled "Twin Peaks ACTUALLY EXPLAINED"
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I have always operated under the assumption that anything on youtube that goes "ending EXPLAINED" at you will either be pointing out the most obvious possible things or completely untenable far-fetched bullshit, and this practice has served me well.Blotto_Otter posted:IMO Lynch has made it clear that Twin Peaks is meant to be a mystery that defies explanation, rather than a secret to be discovered.
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Mulholland Dr is basically the only one that has a one-sentence explanation that makes the majority of the movie fall into place so maybe some people who got into Lynch via that assume the rest of his work will be the same
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I think people just naturally assume a mysterious movie is gonna be, like, the Shyamalan kind of mystery, but yeah. Actually remember that Mulholland Drive itself was originally intended as an open ended pilot. There's a portion of it that was added later in production to tie things together into one neat explanation, but that explanation may just be one of several ways the original open ended material might have offered. Imagine if all Twin Peaks ever had been was the pilot with the international ending.
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Borrowed Ladder posted:I agree that there is no one true answer to explain season 3, but I really enjoy the theory from waggish.org that explains it as the Carrie Page universe as a trap to catch Judy. It gives the ending a purpose in a way i find comforting. I like this one too, but maybe that's just because I want to believe in something that makes the ending seem a bit less bleak and hopeless. I started to come around to this after rewatching season 3 and realizing that the opening scenes of the season directly reference the ending. My take on that is that the Fireman is either reminding Cooper of the plan he is supposed to set in motion, or this is taking place after the ending and the Fireman is reminding a confused Cooper of what the hell just happened. edit: I especially like this theory because it lets you have your cake and eat it too - the show's confusing ending is narratively frustrating but ends on just the emotional note Lynch wanted to leave you with, while the hints toward some modest measure of resolution and closure are presented out-of-order so as to avoid stepping on the emotional impact of the ending. My Lovely Horse posted:Actually remember that Mulholland Drive itself was originally intended as an open ended pilot. There's a portion of it that was added later in production to tie things together into one neat explanation, but that explanation may just be one of several ways the original open ended material might have offered. Imagine if all Twin Peaks ever had been was the pilot with the international ending. Blotto_Otter fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Oct 13, 2020 |
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I don't think I have seen anyone answer what year it is, so no mystery NOT SOLVED. 
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eSporks posted:I don't think I have seen anyone answer what year it is, so no mystery NOT SOLVED. Ugh can’t believe these hacks introducing new mysteries in the last minute of the entire show!
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