Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.

ElMaligno posted:

i know for a fact everyone in the USCG involved in this has a raging erection right now because prosecuting hoax callers is a rare thing for us.

As an added bonus, they'll sometimes seek to recoup the cost of a false alarm activation. I'm sure a NEST deployment is real cheap...

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





trump calling out killary again

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875438639823675392
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875441788110110727

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





also lollin that he probably wrote 'but my dealings are' before throwing the 'non' in front just to make sure everyone knows he's innocent

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Porn.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/15/trump-russia-investigation-obsession-239614

quote:

Trump, for months, has bristled almost daily at the ongoing probes. He has sometimes, without prompting, injected “I’m not under investigation” into conversations with associates and allies. He has watched hours of TV coverage every day — sometimes even storing morning news shows on his TiVo to watch in the evening — and complained nonstop.

Just as he has done publicly on Twitter, Trump has told friends and associates that the investigation is a “witch hunt” and that others are out to get him. “It’s basically all he talks about on the phone,” said one adviser who has spoken with Trump and his top aides.

Aides have tried to change the subject, with little luck. Advisers have tried to buck up the president by telling him to be patient, agreeing that it is a “witch hunt” and urging him to just let it play out — and reassuring him “eventually you will be cleared,” in the words of one.

But none of that has changed Trump’s response.

Aides say they fear his incendiary tweets and public comments have spurred “countless” leaks of damaging information, in the words of one. Chief strategist Steve Bannon has told others that he believes the FBI is now out to get the Trump administration.

“If he didn’t send about 15 tweets that he’s done, he’d be in much better shape than he is right now,” said Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian at Rice University. “I kept thinking he would change from these self-destructive tendencies, but he may be the first president in history who brings himself down because he just can’t help himself.”


Additional porn: Mueller is digging into Kushner's finances. Early, but I wonder how scummy his poo poo is. https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...m=.c87f8c2a6838

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jun 16, 2017

windshipper
Jun 19, 2006

Dr. Whet Faartz would like to know if this smells funny to you?

Missionary Positron posted:

Holy poo poo


Read the whole thing, it's worth it.

Holy gently caress :stare:

Holy gently caress posted:

Prime minister Theresa May is facing growing calls to respond to claims that her government has concealed evidence relating to Russian assassinations in Britain. In her six years as home secretary, she spearheaded the British government’s response to national security threats and presided over cuts of £2.3 billion from the national law enforcement budget that several senior officers have blamed for a drastic reduction in police capabilities. May personally intervened to delay the public inquiry into Litvinenko’s death, citing the need to protect “international relations” with Russia. And in the Perepilichnyy case, her government has withheld sensitive evidence from the inquest on “national security” grounds. Downing Street, the Home Office and Scotland Yard did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

Edit:

Oh gently caress. If they've gotten this far into Britain, what have they done to us?

posted:

The core reason British authorities have turned a blind eye, a current senior national security adviser to the British government told BuzzFeed News, is fear. Ministers, he said, were not prepared to take the “political risk of dealing firmly and effectively in whatever way with the activities of the Russian state and Russian-organised crime in the UK” because the Kremlin could inflict massive harm on Britain by unleashing cyberattacks, destabilising the economy, or mobilising elements of Britain’s large Russian population to “cause disruption”. Deep law enforcement funding cuts mean “our capabilities are very weak”, he said. It was also impossible to rule out the risk of “general war with Russia” in the current climate, he said, and “if it were to happen it would happen very, very rapidly, and we would be entirely unprepared”. As a result, he concluded, ministers “desperately don’t want to antagonise the Russians” and senior figures in government had told him bluntly that there was “no political appetite to deal with the Russian Federation”.

If they can gently caress Britain's economy, what about us?

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

windshipper posted:

Holy gently caress :stare:

If they can gently caress Britain's economy, what about us?

Have you been around for 2017?

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
Yeah seriously, welcome back from your North Korean coma

Poppyseed Poundcake
Feb 23, 2007

You loving retard if you want that looked at then appoint a special prosecutor like you promised

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

windshipper posted:

Holy gently caress :stare:


Edit:

Oh gently caress. If they've gotten this far into Britain, what have they done to us?


If they can gently caress Britain's economy, what about us?

Well that's goddamn horrifying.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
For a very, very, very long time, Russia has been the world leader in one specific field: creating dead Russians.

Don't worry about it too much.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

let the nukes fly

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
how long before russia is the only superpower in the world?

will this come before or after world war 3?

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

gently caress Teresa May. Holy poo poo.

facialimpediment posted:

For a very, very, very long time, Russia has been the world leader in one specific field: creating dead Russians.

Don't worry about it too much.

Yeah but these are dead Britons.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

TBeats posted:

how long before russia is the only superpower in the world?

will this come before or after world war 3?

Russia isn't looking to become a superpower and lack the means to become one even if they wanted to.

They just want to make sure no one else gets to be one.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

Terrifying Effigies posted:

Russia isn't looking to become a superpower and lack the means to become one even if they wanted to.

They just want to make sure no one else gets to be one.

It isn't so much that they're any scarier than anyone else, it's been mentioned several times in this thread (I have several times) that computer security across industry is so bloody terrible I personally wouldn't find it particularly hard to knock over a bunch of factory SCADA systems in some other country and make things go boom.

What's terrifying about the Russians is that they're pushing this stuff, while the rest of us are looking at the potential consequences of doing so (The ICBMs all get launched) and we're wondering what in the name of gently caress they're playing at.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Russia is the living embodiment of Crab Mentality.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

reports of active shooter at Ft Carson

Nothing on local Colorado Springs news yet. Just Wheel of Fortune and whatever.

windshipper
Jun 19, 2006

Dr. Whet Faartz would like to know if this smells funny to you?

cowboy elvis posted:

Have you been around for 2017?

Yeah yeah yeah elections are one thing, but when you try and investigate it, and the result is this:

posted:

“political risk of dealing firmly and effectively in whatever way with the activities of the Russian state and Russian-organised crime in the UK” because the Kremlin could inflict massive harm on Britain by unleashing cyberattacks, destabilising the economy, or mobilising elements of Britain’s large Russian population to “cause disruption”. “desperately don’t want to antagonise the Russians” “no political appetite to deal with the Russian Federation”.

That's a different level of hosed.

Basically -

Hexyflexy posted:

What's terrifying about the Russians is that they're pushing this stuff, while the rest of us are looking at the potential consequences of doing so (The ICBMs all get launched) and we're wondering what in the name of gently caress they're playing at.

We could gently caress their financial system just as easily as they could gently caress us, if not more so.

But we don't.

But they're loving with us to the level of... It's that car ride with your siblings in the back seat, where you keep going, "I'm not touching you," because, hey, the Russians aren't touching us (with bullets). But here's how close we can, here's how much we can just gently caress with you, what are you gonna do about it?

That's scary. It's the same as it was just a week ago, but it's just that much more clearer how much they're trying to gently caress with us, now what are we gonna do?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Fort Carson poo poo was over pretty quick, apparently. One injured, shooter in custody.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

Fort Carson poo poo was over pretty quick, apparently. One injured, shooter in custody.

Someone get into an argument with the wife they met at the strip club?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I would assume something like that, probably yeah. Army gonna army.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

windshipper posted:

Yeah yeah yeah elections are one thing, but when you try and investigate it, and the result is this:


That's a different level of hosed.

Basically -


We could gently caress their financial system just as easily as they could gently caress us, if not more so.

But we don't.

But they're loving with us to the level of... It's that car ride with your siblings in the back seat, where you keep going, "I'm not touching you," because, hey, the Russians aren't touching us (with bullets). But here's how close we can, here's how much we can just gently caress with you, what are you gonna do about it?

That's scary. It's the same as it was just a week ago, but it's just that much more clearer how much they're trying to gently caress with us, now what are we gonna do?

Your analysis is correct, and the thing is we aren't going to do poo poo because the consequences are horrible for everyone. Have no doubt, if they went totally nuts tomorrow, we (I'm English but same difference, that bit of our security services is basically the same service) could shutdown every factory, hospital, facility that isn't isolated and military in their whole country. Thing is, we're not nuts, and this is a problem. That and some idiot might press the button, and that stuff isn't networked.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hexyflexy posted:

It isn't so much that they're any scarier than anyone else, it's been mentioned several times in this thread (I have several times) that computer security across industry is so bloody terrible I personally wouldn't find it particularly hard to knock over a bunch of factory SCADA systems in some other country and make things go boom.

What's terrifying about the Russians is that they're pushing this stuff, while the rest of us are looking at the potential consequences of doing so (The ICBMs all get launched) and we're wondering what in the name of gently caress they're playing at.

There's a reason why we don't let electrical engineers design networks anymore.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
I'm wondering if there's an element of hesitation for both parties here in regards to the Russia poo poo. If we were to definitively prove the Russians interfered in the election and either Trump or people he knows played ball, what's our response?

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

cowboy elvis posted:

I'm wondering if there's an element of hesitation for both parties here in regards to the Russia poo poo. If we were to definitively prove the Russians interfered in the election and either Trump or people he knows played ball, what's our response?

As mentioned above, kill their economy. It's pretty much the only sane move you could make.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

cowboy elvis posted:

I'm wondering if there's an element of hesitation for both parties here in regards to the Russia poo poo. If we were to definitively prove the Russians interfered in the election and either Trump or people he knows played ball, what's our response?

Canned shitposting responses about nothing mattering aside, such a revelation obviously be politically ruinous for Trump and congressional Republicans. Ronnie was able to weather the storm because he knew when to keep his mouth shut, but Donnie will probably dig in and ride it all the way down to conviction by all 48 Democrats and 3 moderate Republicans.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

psydude posted:

Canned shitposting responses about nothing mattering aside, such a revelation obviously be politically ruinous for Trump and congressional Republicans. Ronnie was able to weather the storm because he knew when to keep his mouth shut, but Donnie will probably dig in and ride it all the way down to conviction by all 48 Democrats and 3 moderate Republicans.

About that math of yours....

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Oh, you mean retaliation wise. Well, the US deems election equipment as critical infrastructure. It's murky because it's never been tested, but US doctrine has been that a computer attack on critical infrastructure is treated the same as a physical attack, and all means of retaliation, including kinetic, are on the table for a response.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

MazelTovCocktail posted:

About that math of yours....

You're right, it requires a 2/3 majority. So probably not going to happen until 2020 if Trump gets reelected.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

psydude posted:

There's a reason why we don't let electrical engineers design networks anymore.

So we can let the bean counters do it instead? While people are starting to grasp the idea that network security is actually important I'm not willing to give a whole lot of credit on follow through. Information systems security is still, generally speaking, seen as that line item on the budget that you make as small as possible to cover legal liability. We're a loooooooong way away from it being taken seriously, and I am of the personal opinion that it won't ever be until there's a global scale pants-making GBS threads disaster to drive the lesson home.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

bird food bathtub posted:

So we can let the bean counters do it instead?

No, because declaring that airgapped networks are safe, designing PLCs to accept input from unauthenticated sources because it's easy, using hard-coded root credentials to run software, and failing to design SCADA protocols with authentication mechanisms is retarded. But I agree - the energy sector is really the only one taking IT security seriously.

psydude fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jun 16, 2017

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

bird food bathtub posted:

So we can let the bean counters do it instead? While people are starting to grasp the idea that network security is actually important I'm not willing to give a whole lot of credit on follow through. Information systems security is still, generally speaking, seen as that line item on the budget that you make as small as possible to cover legal liability. We're a loooooooong way away from it being taken seriously, and I am of the personal opinion that it won't ever be until there's a global scale pants-making GBS threads disaster to drive the lesson home.

Mathematician reporting in. We're working on that poo poo, but we're realistically about 50 years away from building systems that are resilient against attack. And getting company X to pay for upgrade to I.T. system Y is basically impossible as you described.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/DewsNewz/status/875494310132813827

Interviewing him was a terrible idea in the first place and now look. Also he basically just said he still thinks sandy hook was fake at the end right?

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Sexual Lorax
Mar 17, 2004

HERE'S TO FUCKING


Fun Shoe

Proud Christian Mom posted:

The only heroes in this thread are the physicians that decommissioned your baby makers

this is a better loving burn than dr solder did on my nuts

hats off

Suicide Watch
Sep 8, 2009
Have anyone considered the possibility that Otto Warmbier may have preferred to return in a coma rather than see himself rescued by Trump?

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Democrats fuckin shelled the GOP tonight in the game, 11-2

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
This statement is very, very weird. I assume issued under duress.

https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/875530713218600960

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

psydude posted:

No, because declaring that airgapped networks are safe, designing PLCs to accept input from unauthenticated sources because it's easy, using hard-coded root credentials to run software, and failing to design SCADA protocols with authentication mechanisms is retarded. But I agree - the energy sector is really the only one taking IT security seriously.

there is going to have to be legislation passed that requires companies that manage our nations infrastructure to have IT security.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

Democrats fuckin shelled the GOP tonight in the game, 11-2

the shooter probably had bets down on credit with the wrong people

  • Locked thread