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marktheando posted:I just remembered this article about Umunna from back in the before times. that’s hilarious
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Bryter posted:Oh 100%. The current generation of Blairites and moderates is for the most part inept at actual politicking. But they represent a faction of the party which in the recent (but fading) past earned a reputation for political cunning, so they have a very hard time accepting that. So you get things like this "unwarranted hubris" is probably the sole consistent thing about centrists and especially blairites it's why their big plan to bring down corbyn was "demand he resign" which fell apart when he responded with "nah"
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fridge corn posted:yes politicians abandoning their ideals for the sake of advancing their careers is certainly a good thing we should definitely want more of I don't like this rereg
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fridge corn posted:yes politicians abandoning their ideals for the sake of advancing their careers is certainly a good thing we should definitely want more of drat that's a loving wild take Imagine being this pathological of a dipshit contrarian
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Lobster God posted:That was Sark, wasn't it? Indeed, specifically Sark, which is a subdivision of Guernsey
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:I don't like this rereg ???
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twoday posted:Indeed, specifically Sark, which is a subdivision of Guernsey Hi, sark was feudal, guernsey has the septimes. I have been voting for my parish rep since I turned 18.
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Their founder Tiber Septim, later Talos, learned CHIM from the God-King Vivec, one third of the Dunmer Tribunal.
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Y'all ready for this? https://twitter.com/KateAronoff/status/1027223376396529666
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lol at ash sarkar having higher billing than a bunch of mp's when most people hadn't heard of her before she called piers morgan an idiot live on tv
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Jose posted:lol at ash sarkar having higher billing than a bunch of mp's when most people hadn't heard of her before she called piers morgan an idiot live on tv Good deeds should be rewarded. 
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Jel Shaker posted:the only explanation for piers having a career at this stage is that he has dirt from phone hacking on every media exec It's his accent tbqh
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Jose posted:lol at ash sarkar having higher billing than a bunch of mp's when most people hadn't heard of her before she called piers morgan an idiot live on tv well i mean she helps organise it
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Don't pay attention to Dan Hodges other than to post his takes to laugh at. He has decided to be a spokesman for Jews despite not being one. As you can tell from his twitter name
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Jose posted:lol at ash sarkar having higher billing than a bunch of mp's when most people hadn't heard of her before she called piers morgan an idiot live on tv judging from that credential alone she deserve pretty high billing imo calling noted idiot Piers Morgan an idiot is a good first impression
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Byolante posted:Hi, sark was feudal, guernsey has the septimes. I have been voting for my parish rep since I turned 18. Huh, thought I was the only active Guern on the forums. Guernsey is autonomous to a certain degree. We get most of our goods from the UK though, which has always seemed a little ridiculous to me, considering France is so much closer. If you buy Normandy cheese in the shop, doubtless it has come via Portsmouth, and we pay a premium for pretty much everything. I'm very worried that with the pressure on the UK in a hard border scenario we're going to be either de-prioritised or simply priced out of goods from the UK. There have been talks with Normandy and Brittany about this, so hopefully we can come to some arrangement if we enter a food crisis. Cost of living is already high enough as it is.
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Guernsey went nazi in WW2, right?
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Guy Goodbody posted:Guernsey went nazi in WW2, right? Uh, no. Britain abandoned the islands to their fate and the Germans occupied them for 5 years. Edit: Fun fact, they also neglected to tell the Germans that the islands had been demilitarised, so the Luftwaffe dive bombed and killed civilians on the way in.
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ReelBigLizard posted:Uh, no. Britain abandoned the islands to their fate and the Germans occupied them for 5 years. aren't those contradictory? How can you be mad at Britain for not fighting to save you from instantly capitulating to the nazis, but also mad at them for not telling the nazis "hey you guys can just walk right in and take over, they'll be cool with it"?
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prefect posted:Y'all ready for this? Holy poo poo Mélenchon, that owns
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I hope Corbyn plays the closing set
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Guy Goodbody posted:aren't those contradictory? How can you be mad at Britain for not fighting to save you from instantly capitulating to the nazis, but also mad at them for not telling the nazis "hey you guys can just walk right in and take over, they'll be cool with it"? Probably because of the abovementioned bombing that killed civilians.
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I like the general world view and paranoid ranting style of this twitter account: https://twitter.com/nickreeves9876/status/1012461825919799307?s=20 https://twitter.com/nickreeves9876/status/1026087455399845888?s=20 https://twitter.com/nickreeves9876/status/1024202039918776321?s=20 However,: https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1027311184788242438?s=20
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prefect posted:Y'all ready for this? I haven't heard of any of these bands
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Decided to google “Acid Corbynism” and it rules: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V06kancZKAg 
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Guy Goodbody posted:aren't those contradictory? How can you be mad at Britain for not fighting to save you from instantly capitulating to the nazis, but also mad at them for not telling the nazis "hey you guys can just walk right in and take over, they'll be cool with it"? It's common practice to inform an adversary that you have demilitarised an area with a civilian population to prevent exactly that eventuality. The decision to pull out of the islands was actually the right one, no-one is mad about this really. Fighting over the islands would have been a fools errand and undoubtedly would have lead to many civilians dead or wounded. Many people evacuated to the UK, rather than live with German occupation, many stayed because they did not want to abandon their homeland. They lived through five years of hardship, many islanders were jailed or sent to concentration camps for acts of resistance, sometimes as little as being found with a contraband radio. The last year was particularly harsh after the Normandy invasion in '44. This cut off supply lines and left locals and enemy forces starving until 11 months later when the islands were liberated. If you want to piss off people from the islands, glib remarks about them "going nazi" will do it chap.
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ReelBigLizard posted:It's common practice to inform an adversary that you have demilitarised an area with a civilian population to prevent exactly that eventuality. The decision to pull out of the islands was actually the right one, no-one is mad about this really. Fighting over the islands would have been a fools errand and undoubtedly would have lead to many civilians dead or wounded. Many people evacuated to the UK, rather than live with German occupation, many stayed because they did not want to abandon their homeland. They lived through five years of hardship, many islanders were jailed or sent to concentration camps for acts of resistance, sometimes as little as being found with a contraband radio. The last year was particularly harsh after the Normandy invasion in '44. This cut off supply lines and left locals and enemy forces starving until 11 months later when the islands were liberated. holy gently caress, i never knew this why didn't the germans surrender when the allies were past paris??
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"In August 1990, an unemployed French nuclear physicist named André Gardes armed with a semi-automatic weapon attempted an invasion of Sark. The night Gardes arrived, he put up two posters declaring his intention to take over the island the following day at noon. The following day he started a solo foot patrol in front of the manor in battle-dress with weapon in hand. While Gardes was sitting on a bench waiting for noon to arrive, the island's volunteer connétable approached the Frenchman and complimented him on the quality of his weapon. Gardes then proceeded to change the gun's magazine, at which point he was tackled to the ground, arrested, and given a seven-day sentence which he served in Guernsey. Gardes attempted a comeback the following year, but was intercepted in Guernsey."
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i say swears online posted:holy gently caress, i never knew this It was actually a tactical decision on the part of the Allies, Hitler was convinced that they would take back the islands at any cost, which is why there were so many troops garrisoned here and so many coastal fortifications. The allies realised that by just bypassing the islands they wouldn't need to deal with all these troops until they were ready to. They starved out the Germans until they had no will to fight, and on May 9th '45 took the islands back with no resistance. twoday posted:"In August 1990, an unemployed French nuclear physicist named André Gardes armed with a semi-automatic weapon attempted an invasion of Sark. The night Gardes arrived, he put up two posters declaring his intention to take over the island the following day at noon. The following day he started a solo foot patrol in front of the manor in battle-dress with weapon in hand. While Gardes was sitting on a bench waiting for noon to arrive, the island's volunteer connétable approached the Frenchman and complimented him on the quality of his weapon. Gardes then proceeded to change the gun's magazine, at which point he was tackled to the ground, arrested, and given a seven-day sentence which he served in Guernsey. Gardes attempted a comeback the following year, but was intercepted in Guernsey." This is one of my favourite local stories, the rifle was a Steyr AUG assault rifle. You can see it in the tiny and charming Sark Museum (open 2pm to 4pm). Sark was (and in many ways still is) absolutely magic, and the Barclay Brothers have loving ruined it. ReelBigLizard has issued a correction as of 13:36 on Aug 9, 2018 |
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ReelBigLizard posted:It was actually a tactical decision on the part of the Allies, Hitler was convinced that they would take back the islands at any cost, which is why there were so many troops garrisoned here and so many coastal fortifications. The allies realised that by just bypassing the islands they wouldn't need to deal with all these troops until they were ready to. They starved out the Germans until they had no will to fight, and on May 9th '45 took the islands back with no resistance. Its a shame Jersey is such a shithole that gives the bailiwick a bad name. I still have my mug from the 50th anniversary of liberation celebrations.
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Byolante posted:Its a shame Jersey is such a shithole that gives the bailiwick a bad name.  Byolante posted:I still have my mug from the 50th anniversary of liberation celebrations. I'm sure I could dig around and find one in the house somewhere. Looking forward to the 75th, I'm tangentially involved with some of the organisation, going to be a big one. Liberation Day is a national holiday here, every May 9th. Everyone takes the day off to get pissed as farts and sunburned, which is about the most traditionally Guernsey thing you can possibly do.
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