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Momomo posted:I can accept that. People were talking about Rinkah earlier and she is my friend even though I might never play the game she's in. Rinkah is also alright imo. I used her in one of my Birthright playthroughs and she turned out pretty solid.
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Momomo posted:Kind of scratching my head on this one tbh. Fates' cast was bad, but they were at least more interesting than Alphonse and Sharena. The difference is that Heroes barely even has a story. SyntheticPolygon posted:Because the main problem with Fates cast is the actions they take in the story rather than like their actual character (the characters themselves are mostly just bland). And this game barely has a story so its not a problem for the Heroes OCs. But I still think that if Fates was reduced to a gatcha game, Corrin would still be a unlikable little poo poo.
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Finally got a Bride Lyn, but of course I also managed to get the worst IV set for her with +HP/-Spd. The HP boon isn't that bad, but with the Spd bane I'm probably going to need to waste the A slot with a Speed + 3 to compensate.
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cheetah7071 posted:It's only arguably the best gameplay if you've never played Thracia After seeing so many recommendations for it I should probably get around to playing it someday How well does it play on emulators? And should I play Genealogy first?
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blizzardvizard posted:After seeing so many recommendations for it I should probably get around to playing it someday The Thracia plot loses a lot of oomph without playing Genealogy first The biggest strike against Thracia is that there isn't a competent translation yet (though the person who did the good Genealogy patch is working on one apparently). There's a menu patch and a moderately incompetent translation patch that leaves the menus a garbled mess. I'm personally waiting for the updated translation for my next play. e: my personal recommendation would be to use the menu patch and follow along with the plot using Cake Attack's LP, but if you plan to play on a mobile device where that's annoying to do then I can personally vouch for the garbled menus not being more than annoying cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Hammers/Armorslayers in the training tower when you're trying to do the armor quest are the rudest goddamn thing. As much as people joke about Bartre, 10th Stratum Bartre is a terrifying monster and I'm not loving with him.
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cheetah7071 posted:The Thracia plot loses a lot of oomph without playing Genealogy first I'm aware of the garbled menus and I think I can get used to it quick enough. But I guess I'll play Genealogy first for the plot; I've heard good things about it too.
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Ostentatious posted:When are they adding nudist wrys wait, you don't have one?
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blizzardvizard posted:I'm aware of the garbled menus and I think I can get used to it quick enough. But I guess I'll play Genealogy first for the plot; I've heard good things about it too. The main thing to look for in Genealogy is that you want to plan your pairings from word go. It's not necessary to win by any means but it makes for a more fun experience all around. If you ask in the megathread I'm sure you can get a million different opinions on fun pairings.
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They just want him to be the loving strong. But at the same time they want your team to eat poo poo and die despite you having a cool and good goal of obtaining freemium orbs. And momomo, same. Rinkah is a friend, but that ain't a reason to touch fates. So I started Thracia and can confirm that it's gameplay is good. But that patch that leaves the menus a mess is... Well I at least had fun with how bad Wild Arms 2's translation was though I had almost no clue what was going on. This was just frustrating to deal with.
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cheetah7071 posted:The main thing to look for in Genealogy is that you want to plan your pairings from word go. It's not necessary to win by any means but it makes for a more fun experience all around. If you ask in the megathread I'm sure you can get a million different opinions on fun pairings. Yeah, I think I'll try to read up on it and plan the pairings myself first (cos I find it fun), then drop by the megathread after to ask for opinions. Thanks!
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loving gently caress WINGS OF MERCY WITH A loving RUSTY SPOON
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ungulateman posted:loving gently caress WINGS OF MERCY WITH A loving RUSTY SPOON one time I baited Anna with my YTiki the enemy Azura WoMed over to her, Anna Noatuned over to kill my Nowi, which left Julia open to the Eirika Nowi was baiting In conclusion, gently caress wings of mercy
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Wings of mercy is one of the reasons you really want to ORKO enemy units
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idk what's with all the Alfonse hate. He's the stoic with a soft heart big brother to Sharena's Lissa and Anna's Frederick. yeah he's not the best sword lord mechanically but people still like Roy. Hell, Roy is poo poo in this game too so godbless for keeping the status quo. Also Camus is really lovely at 3*.
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Tired Moritz posted:idk what's with all the Alfonse hate. He's the stoic with a soft heart big brother to Sharena's Lissa and Anna's Frederick. Lissa and Frederick are better than Chrom too.
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Roger Explosion posted:Well, yes. Maybe Azura more than the other two. Though I'd still take an Eirika over a dancer, and I do every Arena season. I always hate this week's map rotation.
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money spent: one hundred dollars bride cordelias: 0 bride lyns: 3
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ungulateman posted:money spent: one hundred dollars lessons learned: 1 unless you wanted lyn of course
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Rascyc posted:I'm doing the same thing. Ninian really drags my score down it seems, or Nowi really boosts it up. One of those two. Nowi/Fae/Donnel have the highest non-armour BSTs, so they're good ways to raise your score. Nowi being a really good unit is just icing. ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Because the main problem with Fates cast is the actions they take in the story rather than like their actual character (the characters themselves are mostly just bland). And this game barely has a story so its not a problem for the Heroes OCs. Fates's story is... interesting in how not character based it is. Also, how it's not much of a story. Like, Awakening, story's sometimes a mess, but the characters influence how it plays out. Chrom, Robin, Lucina, even Gangrel and Walhart, they all want things and take actions based on those desires, which lead to other characters reacting, which adds up to form a plot. Fates is just things happening, with the characters... kind of being there.
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I finally rolled a +ATK MRobin. Too bad I never use mine anymore.
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I was going to feed my Fae to my Lucina for renewal 3 and make her a healer with ardent sacrifice and falchion, but then I realized she is +atk/-def and that seems pretty usable, so I'm thinking of feeding my +Spd/-Atk ATiki to her for the distant counter weapon. Does this sound like a waste of my only ATiki? Even with -Atk, seems like she still has enough defense to bait effectively in GHBs, while Fae seems to not have e much defense at all.
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Nuebot posted:I finally rolled a +ATK MRobin. Too bad I never use mine anymore. I can't imagine not using my MRobin, he is the goddamn glue that holds every team I have together.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I can't imagine not using my MRobin, he is the goddamn glue that holds every team I have together. I got the blue horseback wizardman that melts everyone. If not for that I'd still be using my MRobin, too.
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Nuebot posted:I got the blue horseback wizardman that melts everyone. If not for that I'd still be using my MRobin, too. Same, except I got +atk Reinhardt before I got Mrobin.  Of course, I've got exactly 1 5* swordlord, so you takes the rough with the smooth.
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Murderion posted:Of course, I've got exactly 1 5* swordlord, so you takes the rough with the smooth. That's why you 5* Olivia
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RobinM's lack of killing power really hurts him in general despite his good balance. If Bride Cordelia starts showing up everywhere he's a fantastic counter, but the drop in the number of reds as well as the rise of mages in the meta also hurts him badly. RobinF is even worse since she has a worse tome and can't use IVs to patch up her problems, despite having an arguably better colour. Nino also exists.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I can't imagine not using my MRobin, he is the goddamn glue that holds every team I have together. He's my go-to tank bro for difficult story/GHB missions. He's fallen off in the arena meta though since Takumi has taken up his rightful position of mediocrity. Also wanted to confirm that BCordelia is truly nuts. Mine is +spd and I don't even have the SP for her brave bow+ yet but she still destroys everything with 51 atk, 42 spd.
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I'm promoting a 4* +ATK/-SPD Sheena to merge with my current trash 5* -ATK Sheena and I have SP enough to choose an A-skill before the merge. What skill do you folks think would be a good idea?
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If she wasn't -speed I'd say Fury because she's actually fast enough to reach not-being-doubled (or even doubling slow enemies) combined with Hone Armor. The obvious choice is Distant Counter but I presume you're going to the effort of using this Sheena because you don't have a Hector, let alone a spare one lying around. I'd go with Attack +3, especially if you are using Quick Riposte as her B skill.
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ungulateman posted:If she wasn't -speed I'd say Fury because she's actually fast enough to reach not-being-doubled (or even doubling slow enemies) combined with Hone Armor. My Sheena's current build will be: Killer Axe+ Pivot (I eventually want to try Swap) Bonfire ??? Wary Fighter Fortify Armor/Fortify Defense 3 Attack Seal (probably) I've been putting together an Armour Emblem team because I have the means to do so, to make those monthly quests less of a pain in the rear end and to hopefully boost my Arena score without having to whale for multi-merges. Also, with the faux-perma-death events coming up, meat shields like Sheena will probably be pretty drat helpful, so I'm trying to make her good.
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If you're using Wary Fighter I would probably go all in on Triangle Adept. There's not much point in bonus defence/resistance when you're only being hit once, and your one gigantic Killer Bonfire might as well delete every single blue unit that could ever exist (while also serving as better defense against blue mages). Honourable mention to Defence + 3 for being an extra point of damage on Bonfire procs
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Emerald Axe/Distant Counter is probably better, but that involves burning a Distant Counter.
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Alrighty then, it's time for the review of Archers!  Back to the first post, with table of contents coming SoonTM. Archers are colourless ranged attackers. They have no position on the weapon triangle, and thus have no advantage against any colour (they still get dunked on by raven tomes, because lol fuk u). They have a massive attack bonus against flying units, making them good for story missions/GHBs with lots of fliers, as well as in arena weeks when a top tier flier is in the bonus list. That said, they have a fair few downsides: they suffer the same stat penalty and lower weapon damage as mages, their attacks target what is typically the stronger of the defensive stats (with only one time-limited unit having an attack score worth writing home about), and there are very few fliers regarded as top-tier in the current meta. There are ten archers total, all infantry (ASTRID WHEN), with four available at 3*. None have been in GHBs, though a 2* Virion is given for free in the tutorial. Let's meet them: Gordin is best known as "the other Klein", being the budget Brave Bow wielder. His stats feature good hp, best-in-class def, decent attack, poor speed and awful res. His poor speed is both compounded and mitigated by his brave weapon: he doubles everything on initiation (so speed isn't an issue on attack), but he'll almost always get doubled if he fails to kill the enemy or they hit him first. He's also got the bargain basement version of Klein's signature skill, a flat +3 to attack (adding up to +6 when he attacks). His high def and hp means he'll at least survive the enemy closing with him if he doesn't score a kill, so he's got that going for him. He's probably the best of the budget archers out of the box, though that ain't saying much. His brave bow is worth inheriting as a stepping stone to a quad build on another archer, as you don't want to inherit just the + weapon off a 5 star. His assist is shove, a very situational movement skill mostly used to put breathing space between units and punt bait defenders closer to the enemy. +Attack is worth inheriting if you have a 4* version you don't want to bother with. Niles is the mage hunter of the archers, a role he fills... somewhat. He's got mediocre hp, piss-poor atk and def, competitive spd, and one of the top res scores in the game. His build is almost perfect for his role, with his high res complemented by his special, which in turn is helped by the Killer Bow he wields, meaning he triggers special often enough to offset his poor attack. Niles' problem is mostly a meta one: while he'll stop Reinhardt dead, he's got triangle disadvantage against Cecilia and Robin (who often wield triangle adept), and though fast, he isn't fast enough to double Linde, Nino and Tharja, the lightning quick gently caress you mages. Oh, and roughly one in 4 mages in the training tower will have a raven tome, because gently caress you again. While no mage will kill him outright, he has trouble finishing them off, and he has no answer to the pointy objects carried by the mages' friends. He's the best of the mage killers by dint of his range, though. Iceberg is his best inheritable skill. Warding blow is only good on paper. Setsuna is the  Virion is the archer the game gives you for free. Sucker. He boasts the best hp in his class, decent atk and spd, mediocre def and the worst res score in the game. His all-rounder setup would be fine apart from the massive, glaring weakness to mages only covered by his sky-high hitpoints. His attack and speed are too low to either one-shot or double most things, even with an IV-boost and/or a stat buffing A-skill. Out of his skillset, his Silver Bow is generic  , his special is crap, Defiant Res is too little, too late and Seal Spd is... quite good for his early game purpose, actually. Oddly enough, he can carve out a (mostly irrelevant) niche if he inherits Setsuna's gear (no, not the little baggie she keeps under her mattress), although even then Gordin can arguably do it better. Virion's weapon is there for other archers who lack better options. Astra, his special, boosts damage dealt, which is overkill if you're breaching the enemy's defences and worthless if you can't, the opposite of what you want in a special and too slow charging to boot. Seal Spd reaches it's full potential at 4*, and is meant for support characters to help actually good units score doubles. It's not great in the aggro heavy meta, although if defence tiles become more common that could change.So that's the archers, most of whom are honestly worse than a coloured unit outside of their very limited specialities. Next up: Clerics! 
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cheetah7071 posted:I personally find debuffs to be completely worthless. Other people praise threaten skills but I've never seen anyone praise seal skills. Fcorrin has a very cohesive kit as a tanky mage support.
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kaschei posted:Seal res on fcorrin is perfect for her. She can tank a hit, then often double on counter for 14 more damage. Or if not herself, she adds 11 damage to the mage next to her between seal res and hone attack. and then a wings of mercy dancer fucks your day up
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