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Bill "it's a complex question as to whether the cost [of law school] is higher than it should be or is justified" Robinson is visiting my professional responsibility class today and tomorrow--mostly to talk about how Congress should stay out of regulating the profession because liberty and eagles and  I don't even know
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So I just got into BC Law. How's BC perceived among lawyers? Decently? I'll find out about financial aid and scholarships in a bit, but I just got in and want to know what people think.
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Teddybear posted:So I just got into BC Law. How's BC perceived among lawyers? Decently? BC Law killed my parents. edit: Actually those bastards waitlisted and then rejected me when I eventually got into multiple T-14 schools. So gently caress them. gret fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Feb 27, 2012 |
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Teddybear posted:So I just got into BC Law. How's BC perceived among lawyers? Decently? BC is well-regarded in the Boston area, but like all non-t14s, you either are in the cream of the crop or you're hosed.
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I go to BC. I'd say about 30-45% of 3Ls have jobs right now. Most of them are people who summered at a firm for 2L summer. Not looking too bright for everyone else, although a decent amount of people get hired at local DA offices and that doesn't occur until this spring semester. The name is great is Boston and somewhat good in NYC, but beyond that you need good grades and the ability to sell yourself. I would highly recommend taking a year or two off (but I recommend this to anyone going anywhere, just so you have a chance to do something not law in your lifetime). If you're interested in public service, BC gives out 3 public service scholarships each year (full tuition). You would definitely need public service work experience to compete for those. The professors and students here are all great. Class of 2011 placement of new grads in NLJ 250 firms came out today: http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?interactive=true&id=1202543436520 Obviously, the numbers are skewed for some schools because of high clerkship numbers. At BC, a top 15-25% finish after 1L will pretty much guarantee you a firm job (albeit not at the top of the top of Boston firms). Anything else and you'll need to apply everywhere and be above average at interviewing.
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Tetrix posted:I go to BC. I'd say about 30-45% of 3Ls have jobs right now. Most of them are people who summered at a firm for 2L summer. Not looking too bright for everyone else, although a decent amount of people get hired at local DA offices and that doesn't occur until this spring semester. The name is great is Boston and somewhat good in NYC, but beyond that you need good grades and the ability to sell yourself. I would highly recommend taking a year or two off (but I recommend this to anyone going anywhere, just so you have a chance to do something not law in your lifetime). If you're interested in public service, BC gives out 3 public service scholarships each year (full tuition). You would definitely need public service work experience to compete for those. The professors and students here are all great. Ouch, look at UIUC, 11%. Not that Emory did much better.
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evilweasel posted:BC is well-regarded in the Boston area, but like all non-t14s, you either are in the cream of the crop or you're hosed. Only, people who go to non-t14s aren't hosed, and your post is just an enormous exaggeration. There are plenty of reasons not to go to law school, but there's also a big difference between schools ranked at the very end of the list, and those that are simply ranked a little beyond the first fourteen.
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MechaFrogzilla posted:Whoa, wasn't Cornell above 50% last year? Yeah I'm pretty sure I saw that same stat for last year when they were styling on most of the top 10. This is just a drop.
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Lilosh posted:See United States v. Arnold, 486 F.3d 177, 210 (2007). When I saw United States v. Arnold I thought it was United States v. Arnold, 523 F.3d 941 (9th Cir. 2008).
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Soothing Vapors posted:yessssssss wanna see Dean Z in leg irons Don't talk that way about Sarah 
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Petey posted:Don't talk that way about Sarah TO THE STOCKADES WITH HER
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Dear 16 Year Old Me, Don't Go to Law School: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShliKfsLQo0&feature=share
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Law revue videos are the highlight of law school (don't go to law school): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-JFzNpKAnY&context=C3c3285eADOEgsToPDskKnOcbIlqQqPmb6ZHpYGdO5
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Grammar Fascist posted:Law revue videos are the highlight of law school (don't go to law school): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-JFzNpKAnY&context=C3c3285eADOEgsToPDskKnOcbIlqQqPmb6ZHpYGdO5 Bearded guy cool other three putzes are putzes.
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Grammar Fascist posted:Law revue videos are the highlight of law school (don't go to law school): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-JFzNpKAnY&context=C3c3285eADOEgsToPDskKnOcbIlqQqPmb6ZHpYGdO5 It's Bernie Goetz not Bennie Goetz  gunner my rear end
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Yale, Chicago, Northwestern are officially not T14 anymore. http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2012/02/law-school-1.html I would quote but it's a table chart thingy.
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sigmachiev posted:Add HKS and Syracuse to your list of schools. Goldman is cool and I've met solid people there so if you want more on Berkeley lemme know. My understanding is it's heavy on quant relative to other places and quite good for that end of it. If you get one of those five I say go for it over law school depending on your work experience and if you have a background in stat, math or econ. I don't have a lot of background but I am ready and willing to heavy on quant, which IMO is what recommends MPP over JD for what I want to do (in theory, I don't know how this works out in practice however). It seems like for policy analysis, quant is pretty necessary. I will definitely be in touch later after getting more information.
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entris posted:Yale, Chicago, Northwestern are officially not T14 anymore. 
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That chart needs to be modified by the number of graduates in the appropriate years.
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evilweasel posted:That chart needs to be modified by the number of graduates in the appropriate years. Not to mention how many actually went into private practice at all or clerked instead of going straight to a firm.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:I'm so glad I went to law school before youtubes and law revues Not for participating, but for getting hammered.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:I'm so glad I went to law school before youtubes and law revues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEBC0IC2Crc
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This is probably the sort of question that's been done to death in this thread, but what's the tried and true advice for the MPRE? I need to get an 85 on this thing and I got an A in my Professional Responsibility class, but I need to refresh myself on all of it in the next couple weeks. Is there a go-to supplement or should I just relearn my outline for class and do practice questions?
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aarontxwl posted:This is probably the sort of question that's been done to death in this thread, but what's the tried and true advice for the MPRE? Depending on your tolerance, stick to only 3 to 5 drinks the night before, so that you aren't hungover when you take the test.
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aarontxwl posted:This is probably the sort of question that's been done to death in this thread, but what's the tried and true advice for the MPRE? I need to get an 85 on this thing and I got an A in my Professional Responsibility class, but I need to refresh myself on all of it in the next couple weeks. Is there a go-to supplement or should I just relearn my outline for class and do practice questions? The MPRE is a joke, and if you can't figure out how to pass it on your own you shouldn't be allowed to be a lawyer. Also, doesn't Barbri have a free course? Just do that. And by do that I mean watch the video on fast forward.
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HiddenReplaced posted:The MPRE is a joke, and if you can't figure out how to pass it on your own you shouldn't be allowed to be a lawyer. What he said. We tried to get the closest to 85 we could and most of us overshot it by 40 points.
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Okay I basically registred in January and haven't thought about it until now. I just don't want to (a) overstudy for it or (b) be that guy who has to retake it. But if it's a complete loving joke I'll just find the Barbri thing and maybe do some practice questions. I was also under the impression that an 85 means 85/100 so okay I'm going to continue not worrying about it.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:I'm so glad I went to law school before youtubes and law revues I thought my law school was filled with douchebags but holy cow none of them were youtube bad. HiddenReplaced posted:The MPRE is a joke, and if you can't figure out how to pass it on your own you shouldn't be allowed to be a lawyer. Agreeing with this. I took it cold during my 3L year long after I'd forgotten everything I read if I ever read anything relevant for it. Passed with flying colors.
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aarontxwl posted:Okay I basically registred in January and haven't thought about it until now. I just don't want to (a) overstudy for it or (b) be that guy who has to retake it. But if it's a complete loving joke I'll just find the Barbri thing and maybe do some practice questions. I was also under the impression that an 85 means 85/100 so okay I'm going to continue not worrying about it. 150 and it's scaled.
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I passed the MPRE cold... for Kansas, but not Colorado. So I looked over the book and retook it and then overshot the Colorado minimum by something like 40. Depends on what state you're aiming for, I suppose.
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aarontxwl posted:Okay I basically registred in January and haven't thought about it until now. I just don't want to (a) overstudy for it or (b) be that guy who has to retake it. But if it's a complete loving joke I'll just find the Barbri thing and maybe do some practice questions. I was also under the impression that an 85 means 85/100 so okay I'm going to continue not worrying about it. Take 5 hours and study for it just to ensure you don't have to retake it, because I'm pretty sure retaking the MPRE is the kind of shame that permanently stains a man's soul. By 5 hours I mean watch the barbri video and skim the outline If you don't pass by at least 20 points after that, kill yourself
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