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This was not my experience. Last time I summoned him he ended up poisoned before we even got into the boss room and came in with about 3/4 health. Afterward, even with me holding her still, he managed to hit her about 4 times before finally eating poo poo to the poison.
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Bob NewSCART posted:What the hell am I even supposed to do to this chariot rear end in a top hat? He literally just flattened me in one hit 10 seconds after the fight started and now I have to go back and fight those stupid mouth of sauron looking fuckers Hyper Crab Tank posted:There are alcoves you can hide in along the circuit. Look for an alternate way of beating him that doesn't involve letting him ram your face. I'm a little late and a little shameless, but this thread moves fast as hell. There are much funner ways of taking down the Chariot. And instead of thinking Ice King, I immediately think of Spy vs Spy. Now that's a thing I want to do, thanks.
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May 20, 2014 03:52
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Schwack posted:This was not my experience. Last time I summoned him he ended up poisoned before we even got into the boss room and came in with about 3/4 health. Afterward, even with me holding her still, he managed to hit her about 4 times before finally eating poo poo to the poison. You honestly might be better off just soloing her and intelligently using Estus because she has less health that way and she dies really, really fast. Alternatively just pop a Radiant Lifegem the moment poison takes effect, renew as needed. 
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May 20, 2014 03:53
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Captain Oblivious posted:Yeah this is a fine point. Jester Thomas will explode her skull pretty fast. Jester Thomas is this game's Iron Tarkus.
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May 20, 2014 03:54
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Captain Oblivious posted:You honestly might be better off just soloing her and intelligently using Estus because she has less health that way and she dies really, really fast. She did when I played through as a caster, but as a melee character she seems to be much more resilient. Doing a run without using Pyromancy/Sorcery/Miracles has been wildly different and I'm not really diggin the need to respec for one broken boss. edit: afaik I've got no means of acquiring radiant gems. Melentia doesnt sell any and has no dialog left.
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May 20, 2014 03:54
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Schwack posted:She did when I played through as a caster, but as a melee character she seems to be much more resilient. Doing a run without using Pyromancy/Sorcery/Miracles has been wildly different and I'm not really diggin the need to respec for one broken boss. It's really not a broken boss. Her health bar is pathetic precisely because of the possibility of fighting her this way. What kind of weapon are you using, lets see if we can identify the problem
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May 20, 2014 03:55
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I not only killed a phantom in the grave of saints I broke all his armor too. 
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May 20, 2014 03:57
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Schwack posted:She did when I played through as a caster, but as a melee character she seems to be much more resilient. Doing a run without using Pyromancy/Sorcery/Miracles has been wildly different and I'm not really diggin the need to respec for one broken boss. You've used ALL your Radiant Gems? All your Old Radiants? God drat son. Use a normal then, it should at least suffice for blunting the damage and limiting the urgency of Estus. Now, what weapon and what upgrade level are we looking at here?
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May 20, 2014 03:58
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Lunatic Sledge posted:I'm a little late and a little shameless, but this thread moves fast as hell. There are much funner ways of taking down the Chariot. This is how I ended up fighting him the first few times because I kept getting trapped in those alcoves with no stamina and all the skeles in the world on my rear end.
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May 20, 2014 03:58
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Captain Oblivious posted:You've used ALL your Radiant Gems? All your Old Radiants? God drat son. Use a normal then, it should at least suffice for blunting the damage and limiting the urgency of Estus. I'm playing through the game twice with a friend on co-op. They go much more quickly that way. I'm going to try this cheese strategy with dual maces that apparently stun locks her. Normally I've been using a mace or the fire longsword in 2h mode. edit: lmao I'm not sure where this wiki stuff comes from but uhh she definitely doesn't stun lock.
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May 20, 2014 04:01
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I'm thinking about using a soul vessel to make my guy a hexer. What are the good hexes? How much int/faith should I go for? For int builds the throne watcher sword is significantly better than MLGS. At 64 int for me the MLGS only does 292 magic damage, maybe if I enchanted it I could get a little more. The throne watcher sword does 261 magic, and 215 physical, it's moveset is identical to claymore from DS1 except the two handed attacks are faster, every move requires way less stamina, and it can buff itself.
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May 20, 2014 04:05
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You can definitely stunlock Mytha with dual maces. Use your power stanced heavy attack a second or so before she comes out of her staggered frames. Keep doing this until she dies.
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May 20, 2014 04:05
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Vermain posted:You can definitely stunlock Mytha with dual maces. Use your power stanced heavy attack a second or so before she comes out of her staggered frames. Keep doing this until she dies. Have you done this recently? She just seems to ignore the attack completely as she's recovering from the first hit.
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May 20, 2014 04:06
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Schwack posted:Have you done this recently? She just seems to ignore the attack completely as she's recovering from the first hit. Are you using the Stone Ring?
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May 20, 2014 04:07
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Schwack posted:Have you done this recently? She just seems to ignore the attack completely as she's recovering from the first hit. Yes. The timing is a bit tricky: you need to hit the entire heavy attack just as she comes out of her stagger frames (where she's otherwise immune to poise breaking). Watch Lobos Jr.'s speedrun kill of her to get an idea of the timing required.
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May 20, 2014 04:08
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Dual mace stunlock shenanigans seems like a lot of effort for an easy fight. Just take your time, make your hits, exploit her long rear end recovery time. Dual maces is just liable to run you out of stamina at an important time because you're unfamiliar with the style.
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May 20, 2014 04:13
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Vermain posted:Yes. The timing is a bit tricky: you need to hit the entire heavy attack just as she comes out of her stagger frames (where she's otherwise immune to poise breaking). Watch Lobos Jr.'s speedrun kill of her to get an idea of the timing required. Thank you very much for this. Worked like a charm. Captain Oblivious posted:Dual mace stunlock shenanigans seems like a lot of effort for an easy fight. Just take your time, make your hits, exploit her long rear end recovery time. For the normal fight, I think you're right on, but the pressure the poison puts on you is pretty ridiculous. It burns through an Estus flask in no time flat and lifegems are as much as worthless. Near as I could tell, for my character, there really was no taking my time simply because I'd end up totally tapped on valid healing items before she went down.
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May 20, 2014 04:16
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Are the only enemies in the doors of pharros that won't attack me as a ratbro the rats themselves (minus the boss)? Wouldn't I just kill everyone then waiting for an invader (or running into them during the fight)?
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May 20, 2014 04:33
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Safety Scissors posted:For int builds the throne watcher sword is significantly better than MLGS. At 64 int for me the MLGS only does 292 magic damage, maybe if I enchanted it I could get a little more. The throne watcher sword does 261 magic, and 215 physical RBA Starblade posted:Are the only enemies in the doors of pharros that won't attack me as a ratbro the rats themselves (minus the boss)? Wouldn't I just kill everyone then waiting for an invader (or running into them during the fight)? Everything between the first bonfire and the boss bonfire are your friends.
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May 20, 2014 04:34
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Kild posted:What? Are you comparing a +5 Watcher Sword to an upgraded MLGS? MLGS+5 with literally no scaling would have 304 magic damage. I think he must be looking at the weapon stats in the inventory and not equipped since you don't get the "+ so-and-so" damage bonus from scaling on that screen. edit: Just to show what I mean, equipment screen:  inventory screen:  double edit: Actually after taking a look at the values on the wiki for each weapon I have no idea how he could come up with those numbers, at all. Cowcaster fucked around with this message at 04:51 on May 20, 2014 |
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May 20, 2014 04:38
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Kild posted:What? Are you comparing a +5 Watcher Sword to an upgraded MLGS? MLGS+5 with literally no scaling would have 304 magic damage. Unless of course someone uses a Giant's Seed.
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May 20, 2014 04:38
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Ok, So i've beaten old iron king, i've cleared to freja and almost killed her a few times before I didn't have anyone to summon help anymore (don't know why it will just stop getting help summons?) I haven't done the gutter yet.. Should i do the grave/pit/gutter before freja poo poo? I hate fighting my way to that slut of a spider. Edit: Fashion souls (nightmare style) 
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May 20, 2014 04:43
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Kild posted:Everything between the first bonfire and the boss bonfire are your friends. Ah ok. The guys at Gavlan still weren't so it confused me for a bit.
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May 20, 2014 04:43
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Improbable Lobster posted:Unless of course someone uses a Giant's Seed. Does that work in the ratbro areas? I thought it was for turning enemies against phantoms as a host, not the other way around.
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May 20, 2014 04:45
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TipsyMcStagger posted:Ok, Freja is actually pretty easy to run to once all the doors are open. It doesn't matter if you do her or the other stuff first.
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May 20, 2014 04:45
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turtlecrunch posted:Freja is actually pretty easy to run to once all the doors are open. Yeah, don't fight poo poo on your way to Freja, just run like hell. The diciest part is probably the backcrab zombie in front of the ladder before the web room--you might have to lure him away from the ladder real quick-- but nothing will follow you up the ladder itself so that's nice. Opposing Farce fucked around with this message at 04:48 on May 20, 2014 |
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May 20, 2014 04:46
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Opposing Farce posted:Does that work in the ratbro areas? I thought it was for turning enemies against phantoms as a host, not the other way around. There was a goon that posted that it worked in Pharros and the Grave of Saints a while back, IIRC
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May 20, 2014 04:51
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Opposing Farce posted:Yeah, don't fight poo poo on your way to Freja, just run like hell. This works for almost every boss. Velstadt is a bit tricky but still doable.
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May 20, 2014 04:55
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For all this effort I spent setting these places up I'm seeing about as many hits as the belltowers at 1.2 mil SM. e: Oh. Daggers can 360 degree backstab with the slightest amount of lag. Good. e: How can you dodge soul mass online? It seems like if it fires it hits, no matter what. It didn't kill me but it's annoying. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 05:06 on May 20, 2014 |
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May 20, 2014 04:56
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When it comes to fashion souls, there is only Faraam Armor. None can come close to the majesty of Faraam armor, not even Lllewynn. I'll fight you on this.
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May 20, 2014 05:08
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Andrast posted:This works for almost every boss. Velstadt is a bit tricky but still doable. It's really hard to do the Velstadt run reliably thanks to those two guys at the door, though, so you may well be better off just doing that one the slow way. You're also better off clearing a path if you're pulling in summons, especially NPCs. Most boss runs aren't too bad even if you're fighting everything, but the Freja run is incredibly long and absolutely stuffed with dudes to fight. Even if you don't do other runs the fast way do that one. e: how the gently caress was that guys greatsword faster than my rapier
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I hate people who do the whole ~honor~ thing in the belltowers. Don't just stand there and watch! Jump in and have fun! If you want bowing and 1-on-1 fights go play with the dragonbros in iron keep. At least you get a dragon scale. Also I love it when I invade someone in the towers and they have a white phantom helping out. More people need to play dirty and hit hard in the towers. My favorite was a phantom hiding on the roof who backstabbed me. Was proud of those guys. Ain't no honor in the towers.
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May 20, 2014 05:13
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Opposing Farce posted:It's really hard to do the Velstadt run reliably thanks to those two guys at the door, though, so you may well be better off just doing that one the slow way. Oh, and of course make sure you kill the bellboy beneath the stairs before you do it.
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May 20, 2014 05:13
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Bobby The Rookie posted:Just roll past em, it's super easy. You might get hit once, but you can heal at the door while Lunkhead Vinland trundles towards you. You must have had better luck than me because at least half the time rolling past them got me smacked and stunlocked to death trying to get in the fog door.
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May 20, 2014 05:14
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Opposing Farce posted:You must have had better luck than me because at least half the time rolling past them got me smacked and stunlocked to death trying to get in the fog door. A running jump usually does it. e: The ratbros are fun but it's boring as poo poo waiting here alt-tabbed out for a bit every 15-20 minutes.
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May 20, 2014 05:15
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Last time I tried to roll past the guards by Velstadt's boss door, they followed up with another swing before my character began to cross the fog and stunlocked me out of it Edit: Welp 
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May 20, 2014 05:15
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Opposing Farce posted:You must have had better luck than me because at least half the time rolling past them got me smacked and stunlocked to death trying to get in the fog door. The two enemies at the fog door are programmed not to leave the stairs and follow so you need to bait their attack and run past. If you watch a speedrun you can see it done. Personally I never do it as it requires a poo poo-tonne of luck and skill tbh. I'm stuck killing them all if I have to restart.
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May 20, 2014 05:18
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The worst part of the Freja run is easily the first room you have to enter because it literally seems like they positioned that loving spider and the table to make rolling past everything the most annoying poo poo possible.
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May 20, 2014 05:19
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No, the best way to get to the fog door is run up the side of the stairs, roll to the right so you can have the Syan Knight do either, one swing at you and miss or the second which is what you want is his three multi stab, he actually moves a little every stab and the third stab will make him fall down to the floor. Once that happens make a huge circle because pretty sure that's at least six Syan's on your rear end. Then ROLL through the 1st Syan and boom enter fog door.
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Just got backstabbed by somebody I was looking straight at for the first time. That pretty well sucks.
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