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KyloWinter posted:Guy A was ejected from the event obviously. Thank god. Epee rules are pretty much straightforward, so loving up is really hard, both for the ref and the fencer. That's what makes refereeing high level epee tournaments so complicated: you have to be able to deal with that kind of stuff as quick as possible and with the full force of the FIE Rulebook. Just take out the card, tell them to go back on guard, and restart the match. Sounds easy when you don't have to deal with the 2m, 90kg hulks that are most world-class male epeeists!
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Siivola posted:You guys just can't appreciate His knee isn't actually over his ankle though, he's just doing a drop lunge. What IS wrong about his pose is that he looks like he is rolling the ankle, which is dumb to do for almost the exact same reasons.
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your friend a dog posted:His knee isn't actually over his ankle though, he's just doing a drop lunge. What IS wrong about his pose is that he looks like he is rolling the ankle, which is dumb to do for almost the exact same reasons. i thought so too but when i looked again it looks like the sole of his foot is just barely on the floor
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HEY GAIL posted:i thought so too but when i looked again it looks like the sole of his foot is just barely on the floor drat cheap woodcuts. i bet they got them for a 10 buck commision on deviantengravers
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Woah. Just participated in FlowerPoint in Pennsylvania over the weekend, which is a Longpoint league event. I came in 21st out of 60. It was really cool because things were starting to happen with muscle memory and I didn't parry with my hands at all (lol). I'm feeling really good about this given that my first class was in October. =)
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Uziel posted:Woah. Just participated in FlowerPoint in Pennsylvania over the weekend, which is a Longpoint league event. I came in 21st out of 60. It was really cool because things were starting to happen with muscle memory and I didn't parry with my hands at all (lol). I'm feeling really good about this given that my first class was in October. =) Congrats dude. Any VODs from the event?
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The wiring on my foil gave out and I'll have to fence with a loaner tomorrow. 
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KyloWinter posted:Congrats dude. Any VODs from the event?
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Siivola posted:The wiring on my foil gave out and I'll have to fence with a loaner tomorrow. Don't worry, you'll be fine. Rewiring a blade is heaps of fun - bending the thing scary-looking amounts, trying not to crush the wire when you screw the grip back on, then hoping you bent the blade enough beforehand and that the wire doesn't snap on the first touch.
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Double postin' because my sabre gear arrived (mask, glove, lame), it's all awesome and shiny. Fits just like the guide on the Uhlmann website said, which is kinda annoying because I'm right at the upper end of the size I got while being definitely too small for the next size up. Time to decide whether I want to go pretend to be Gu Bongil or Aron Szilagyi... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrXfcjK67aM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFE4WvGaMk0
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Aaand I tore the other calf. Nowhere near as bad as last time, but still loving annoying.
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Oh no. Hope you get better soon.  Foil update: I gave it to the local shopkeep to fix, which turned out a mistake since I'm still waiting. But today I ended up borrowing the club's electric French grip on a lark and...  Also my jacket finally arrived, so I'm a plastron and a spare foil short of competition kit.
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Is this pretty indicative of saber fighting? https://youtu.be/n5w2Mh6CyXo It's interesting to watch, but it looks like they're aiming for each other's sword a lot. Am I seeing it wrong or is that part of the technique?
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Not enough screaming and Italians to be saber fencing, myth busted
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Marsden's written the book on recreating 16th century Polish sabre fighting, so I'd assume he's got the technique down. Tacticswise it looks like lots of doing much nothing and looking for an opportunity to snipe the face or the wrist.
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10 Beers posted:Is this pretty indicative of saber fighting? It's possible that they're simply positioning themselves well enough to be able to defend, counter, defend against the counter, etc, etc. As in when one person starts a swing he's aiming for an opening, but the other person moves to parry and they clash, then the person who parried attacks an open spot and the one who attacked initially defends against the counter and so on.
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Buried alive posted:It's possible that they're simply positioning themselves well enough to be able to defend, counter, defend against the counter, etc, etc. As in when one person starts a swing he's aiming for an opening, but the other person moves to parry and they clash, then the person who parried attacks an open spot and the one who attacked initially defends against the counter and so on. Gotcha. Like I said, I enjoyed it, parts of OT just looked like a staged fight to my novice eyes.
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your friend a dog posted:prob b/c its garbage technique Zing. Wasn't Polish Saber a bit after swords had started to fall out of use on the battlefield? I had thought it suffered from the same limitations like Hutton Saber wherein soldiers (not having to really live/die by their swords anymore) lost some of the most efficacious elements in favor of what was easy to teach/learn.
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Marsden's book is about the sabre around the 16th century, which was still all about chopping your fellow man to bits. But it really is like Hutton sabre in that they're both made up by historical fencing nerds.  If the internet's to be believed, Hutton's Cold Steel is a hodge-podge of Italian sabre of the time mixed with older British backsword, French foil and 16th century Bolognese of all things. Far as I can tell, Hutton never used a sword in anger and probably didn't even know anyone who did.
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Dunno if this is the full book or just an earlier version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wdm7k9q18ldyeoh/Polish%20Saber%20HEMA%20v2.pdf Looks like he had extremely limited sources and uses lots of different styles to piece it together.
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DandyLion posted:Zing. Wasn't Polish Saber a bit after swords had started to fall out of use on the battlefield? I had thought it suffered from the same limitations like Hutton Saber wherein soldiers (not having to really live/die by their swords anymore) lost some of the most efficacious elements in favor of what was easy to teach/learn. The poles used the Szabla from the 1500's and the same general blade shape was used across Europe in the 1800's.
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On the Fencing 2: Electric Boogaloo front... This is a deep, hipstery rabbit hole I find myself in. Yup, that's a Vniti in a French hilt. 
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Future Days posted:Thank god. Epee rules are pretty much straightforward, so loving up is really hard, both for the ref and the fencer. That's what makes refereeing high level epee tournaments so complicated: you have to be able to deal with that kind of stuff as quick as possible and with the full force of the FIE Rulebook. Just take out the card, tell them to go back on guard, and restart the match. Sounds easy when you don't have to deal with the 2m, 90kg hulks that are most world-class male epeeists! I went to a fencing tournament in Paris last February. Good grief was watching the finals dull. Good sportsmanship from everyone, but the really good Epeeists and Foilists went on forever. I quickly realised they had spent years and years getting that good and I can see how it's a challenge, but it is not an interesting spectator sport. On sportsmanship and the like. Everyone was very good humoured. Myself and most people I know have the stereotype of fencing being a very elitist sport and there was nothing like that there. There were a couple of minor issues. I got a pretty nasty looking cut on my left hand when I panicked and blocked a sabre with it. And someone from the Navy team stood too close to a match and got cut just below the eye. Edit: Fight Camp tickets are on sale, is anyone else going? Hazzard fucked around with this message at 10:10 on Apr 7, 2017 |
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Tournament tomorrow. Getting the jitters a bit, but mostly because I've got a ref exam in the afternoon. Gonna ref a pool match and if I don't make a complete hash of it, I get certified to ref local competitions. 
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I passed!  Edit: Oh and I also flicked myself in the eye with my body cord. Siivola fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Apr 9, 2017 |
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https://youtu.be/g9m_JT4QnjE Kunst des fechtens basic glossary video.
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On the diagonal uberhaus, why is he pivoting on the rear foot when cutting from one side, but not the other?
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Siivola posted:I passed! Hey congrats, on both counts, now get out there and get involved in reffing controversy.
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ImplicitAssembler posted:On the diagonal uberhaus, why is he pivoting on the rear foot when cutting from one side, but not the other? Spoke to him, he noticed it too. It's a foot dominance thing, don't worry about it.
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bessantj posted:Hey congrats, on both counts, now get out there and get involved in reffing controversy.
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Siivola posted:Thanks! I'm thinking I'mma start enforcing the rule that says all actions done with a bent arm are preparation. 
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Verisimilidude posted:Spoke to him, he noticed it too. It's a foot dominance thing, don't worry about it. Erh. Not worrying, but if I was a prospective student, I would. Foot dominance should not influence something as basic as that.
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Erh. Not worrying, but if I was a prospective student, I would. Foot dominance should not influence something as basic as that. It's really not an issue, and if you're questioning his credentials and ability I assure you both are solid.
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If you bend your arm, that's a preparation. That means the attack ends. Irrespective of what your opponent is doing.
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Verisimilidude posted:It's really not an issue, and if you're questioning his credentials and ability I assure you both are solid. Don't do longsword or anything, and I'm not sure how much the technique matters, but to my mind if your credentials and ability are 'solid', then your technique should be as well.
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your friend a dog posted:Don't do longsword or anything, and I'm not sure how much the technique matters, but to my mind if your credentials and ability are 'solid', then your technique should be as well. You can look at most videos of accomplished martial artists and find very inconsequential things to nitpick about their technique, but hey, I'm sorry this free content showing basic cuts (which are already open to interpretation regarding specifics and fine details) isn't immaculate.
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Verisimilidude posted:You can look at most videos of accomplished martial artists and find very inconsequential things to nitpick about their technique, but hey, I'm sorry this free content showing basic cuts (which are already open to interpretation regarding specifics and fine details) isn't immaculate. Sorry, if you make a demonstration of the basics, then you better get them right. And it doesn't get much more basic than that.
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Verisimilidude posted:You can look at most videos of accomplished martial artists and find very inconsequential things to nitpick about their technique, but hey, I'm sorry this free content showing basic cuts (which are already open to interpretation regarding specifics and fine details) isn't immaculate. the most accomplished rapier fighters i know (eg, people who are in the top 5%, if not the top 5 period) have almost perfect technique and very little to nothing to nit pick. e: which isnt to say that you have to be perfect to teach the fundamentals, which is why i was wondering if it was something that actually mattered or not your friend a dog fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Apr 13, 2017 |
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Sorry, if you make a demonstration of the basics, then you better get them right. And it doesn't get much more basic than that. I will be sure to get your message to him.
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