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eatenmyeyes posted:Prior to the old man shooting, the life and death decisions were in the hands of dangerous criminals. Even with limited information, I trust myself with those decisions over a robber with better information. Unfortunately, in this case the reins were handed off to a crazy old man. The problem is nobody thinks they're the crazy old man, everyone thinks they're the responsible one that would get it right even if they really are the crazy old man. EDIT: VVV That too, but I'm talking more the problem at the point in time when the decision is being made. A Fancy 400 lbs fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Dec 17, 2012 |
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I think the even bigger problem are the people who see him not as a crazy old man who went well beyond a reasonable response but rather a brave citizen who used appropriate force in self-defense.
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Walter posted:So far today I've seen two reposts of the Morgan Freeman thing from people who I would expect better of. I made a thing.   
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I think if you're talking about Dr Phil, you're required to put quotes around the title. "Dr" Phil. Have a friend flipping out on Facebook because the eulogy Obama gave for the CT victims was broadcast as a 'special report'. Lightly paraphrased highlights include "It can't be a special report because they scheduled it ahead of time, and you can only call it a special report if it's an emergency happening during the broadcast", and "Obama owns all the networks which is why he's on every channel and gave the order to cut in to my Wipeout time". Jesus.
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Dec 17, 2012 09:21
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I've started receiving conspiracy theory spam in my inbox, it's pretty cyberpunkquote:From: fremanfighter@dune.com
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Flashing Twelve posted:I've started receiving conspiracy theory spam in my inbox, it's pretty cyberpunk Cyberpunk? Sounds more like they'd want to restore the sandworm habitat. Who controls the spice controls the universe!
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http://www.saveamericafoundation.co...a+Foundation%29 Another one from the conspiracy nuts about Obama is forming his own Hitler Youth as a part of FEMA. I've also seen a FB post or two questioning if the Sandy Hook shooting even actually happened.
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Dec 17, 2012 15:27
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How on earth do you go about getting an @dune.com email address?
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Leospeare posted:I think if you're talking about Dr Phil, you're required to put quotes around the title. "Dr" Phil. Dr. Phil has a PhD in psychology and can therefore legitimately call himself Dr. Phil. What he's chosen to do with it may not be the greatest thing, but he has legitimate credentials. As for the Obama, thing, it could be a lot worse: http://mashable.com/2012/12/17/sunday-night-football-newtown/  Guns! Fitbaw! Racism! 
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My favorite is the guy who is mixing up his racism with his Islamophobia.
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Personally I liked 'you're making the families hurt more'. Yea, the people only a couple of days after the death of their young children were totally recovered and moving on before this rear end in a top hat expressed sympathy and compassion to them.
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Dec 17, 2012 16:12
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There were people mad about Obama making his speech during when Justin Bieber was going to be on Ellen. 
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Flashing Twelve posted:I've started receiving conspiracy theory spam in my inbox, it's pretty cyberpunk Got this one too in my company email. Google came up with someone on ar15.com getting the same email and even they think this email is loving nuts.
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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seiferguy posted:So a friend of mine on FB liked this post:
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Flashing Twelve posted:I've started receiving conspiracy theory spam in my inbox, it's pretty cyberpunk
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:If they can control minds why do they need these false flag operations? Mind control isn't like having an RC controller for a persons thoughts or actions. You have to push them in the right direction with all kinds of stimuli (false flag operations, McDonalds commercials, chem trails) and let the fluoride work its magic.
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I really don't get this "defend against the government and against banksters" business. I thought the fallout of the Waco siege proved conclusively that your guns aren't going to protect you from tyranny (or any kind of serious military/police organization), and as for banksters, what, are they planning to shoot the people foreclosing their homes? Content slightly related to that whole "beating up the mentally ill business": there's a term in Hebrew that roughly translates into "slap kids", annoying kids you want to slap because they ask work-creating questions ("is that going to be on the test? Are we supposed to hand in the homework now?") etc. She was basically saying that "slap kids" never grow out of it. Being that I used to be that kid (and I struggle hard to make sure I'm not these days, but it's difficult), I took offense to it. She personally apologized, but one of her friends started lashing out at me for taking offense, saying that she was schoolteacher during her military service (there is a branch of the service where you get to teach in school. Schools love it because it's cheaper than hiring another teacher. But I digress), and she has mental health training, so she is qualified to say that some people are just annoying and need to be slapped. 
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I'm really starting to hate Facebook and the people on it. Everyone thinks they have nuggets of wisdom when they are repeating the same poo poo over and over, posting the same memes, and barfing out the talking points. Nobody has an original thought anymore and it it really showing since Friday. Holy poo poo. "~*Share this if you agree, if not delete it and move on*~" gently caress!
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More Facebook funquote:I'm sorry but blaming Adam Levine's horrendous actions on autism or auspergers is ludicrous! How about a lack of God or Christian values? I would like to see statistics on how many suicidal maniacs were brought up in active Christian households. And our government takes God out of our country & schools and we wonder why there are so many lunatics killing people all over our country. Someone replied with "Agreed, Maroon 5 is another national tragedy"
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Aeka 2.0 posted:I'm really starting to hate Facebook and the people on it. Everyone thinks they have nuggets of wisdom when they are repeating the same poo poo over and over, posting the same memes, and barfing out the talking points. Nobody has an original thought anymore and it it really showing since Friday. Holy poo poo. I think you can replace Facebook in that sentence with "places people congregate online." Reddit has this problem, Digg had it, Slashdot had it, MySpace had it, people just loving suck.
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I posted this in the picture thread earlier: And look how it backfired on me.  How come people suddenly get smart only when I post stuff? This is not fair.
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clockworx posted:More Facebook fun Timothy McVeigh was raised Roman Catholic, a strong supporter of 2nd Amendment rights, and voted Libertarian while being a registered Republican. He committed the largest terrorist attack on U.S. soil pre-9/11, killing 168 people and injuring over 800 more.
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Mo_Steel posted:Timothy McVeigh was raised Roman Catholic, a strong supporter of 2nd Amendment rights, and voted Libertarian while being a registered Republican. He committed the largest terrorist attack on U.S. soil pre-9/11, killing 168 people and injuring over 800 more. Given that most school shootings are suburban white kids, I'm sure a decent share of them are raised Christian. However, she did specify "Active Christian" households (who, as we all know, live right next door to the "True Scotsman" household.)
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Mooseontheloose posted:This is a rare meme that appeals to both the far right and far left as I have seen more leftist people post this on FB too. I almost flipped my poo poo on the person but thought better of it. I feel like it's obvious that Obama wasn't faking those tears. However, if he's really so hugely opposed to dead kids he's got some policies to reverse. Unless, ofcourse, he's only opposed to dead American kids.
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h_double posted:I made a thing.  He has said so many things!! Not since Ben Stein and Albert Einbenstein has their been such a remarkable and quotable man!
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 Liked by someone who should probably know better. God this stuff is getting annoying. I'd offer a response but it'd just spark the same old arguments, and not with her, either. It's all of her random friends that tend to be the most annoying. She herself can be receptive, but every time I start a conversation I get drowned out in everyone else's right-wing responses.
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AlliedBiscuit posted:
Saw this, just responded with : quote:after McVeigh the government put in a lot of restrictions on purchasing the ingredients needed to make that type of bomb as well as instituting measures by which the companies that distribute the ingredients track and report on purchases. They also worked with Honeywell to develop fertilizer that wasn't as explosive
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Several states have legal restrictions on fertilizer purchases, though, and the department of homeland security has recommended federal regulations in the past.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:Saw this, just responded with : Thanks. That's a good summation. I just want her to at least see that the thing is inaccurate, not necessarily change her mind on gun control. So facts like that are nice. I just want people to think harder before that poo poo gets shared. Edit: And here come the terrible responses: "some people live off the land still, and I don't think their right to eat naturally should be affected or even considered...not everyone wants to eat what you buy at the store that is full of preservatives...GMO poisons, and wood pulp...in the last 100 years millions of people have been slaughtered by their own governments once gun control policies were put into place....Soviet Union under Stahlin, Germany under Hitler...and I believe china or japan had a bunch of people slaughtered as well...not a good idea" AlliedBiscuit fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Dec 18, 2012 |
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AlliedBiscuit posted:Liked by someone who should probably know better. God this stuff is getting annoying. I'd offer a response but it'd just spark the same old arguments, and not with her, either. It's all of her random friends that tend to be the most annoying. She herself can be receptive, but every time I start a conversation I get drowned out in everyone else's right-wing responses. Yeah, that's annoying. My friend posted this Reagen meme quote:We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions. And as I was making fun of him, some guy came in and... quote:Yeah, Charlie, we blame the bastard that killed 20 6-7 yr olds and 6 teachers trying to help along with his own mother. Now if his own mother didn't see this coming, because I would assume she wouldn't have left loaded firearms unlocked, what was society supposed to do? Do I think that there are times in our history the people around these kids could have done more? Yes, but it doesn't change the fact that they deserve a special place in hell for what they have done. Take off your America hating glasses and think for yourself, instead of regurgitating what the media tells you. Have a good one. When I pointed out that people don't grow up in a vacuum, the stigma for getting mental help, the fact that the mother didn't have her guns properly locked up and society's failure to let somebody who didn't know proper gun etiquette buy a gun of that caliber... quote:Yet, you can push everything off on society and not place any blame on the individual? Quit being a hypocrit. Apparently, you missed my part where I said I do feel in some incidents the people surrounding these people failed. I'm not surprised you failed to mention it because it would show that I'm not pumping an agenda but forming an opinion based on ideals I believe in. I don't have a mental issue but the people I know who do have gotten help either from urging of their family or friends, so I can honestly say I have no idea what stigma you are referring to. While I agree on the parents not using proper weapons storing etiquette in my opinion, I also feel it is well within people's rights to decide how they want to store their firearms. I'm not even going to touch the caliber argument because I feel it adds nothing to this conversation. At which point, I just told him to gently caress off. Who knew me making fun of my stupid friend is pumping an agenda? Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Dec 18, 2012 |
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AlliedBiscuit posted:Thanks. That's a good summation. I just want her to at least see that the thing is inaccurate, not necessarily change her mind on gun control. So facts like that are nice. I just want people to think harder before that poo poo gets shared. "Correlation does not equal causation. There are a lot of modern societies where gun control is correlated with increased safety rather than tyrannical governments. If you actually believe that guns in the hands of the public is the only thing standing between the United States government and Nazi Germany then I've got a bridge to sell you." E: also, Nazi Germany actually loosened gun laws: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Germany#The_1938_German_Weapons_Act vyelkin fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Dec 18, 2012 |
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Tom Selkis' (Latham Ford) Facebook.......... True story yesterday at the dealership..... "I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can. One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus. As he was reviewing her credit app with her he noticed she was on social security disability. He said to her you don't look like you're disabled and unable to work. She said "well I'm really not, I could work if I wanted to but I make more now then I did when I was working and got hurt" (non-disabling injury). She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check; she gets $700.00 a month on an EBTcard (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent. Oh yeah and 250 mins free on her phone. That is just south of $3500.00 a month. When she was working she was taking home about $330.00 per week. Do the math and then ask yourself: "why the hell should she go back to work?" If you multiply that by millions of people you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country. Once the socialists have 51% of the population in that same scenerio we are finished........ and we are real, real close. The question is: when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already? She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal by $10.00month. Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money! ------------------- The basic numbers don't add up right when I tested them with the basic Social Security calculator. Either there are some crucial missing details from the story or it's totally BS from start to finish.
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AlliedBiscuit posted:Edit: And here come the terrible responses: Many countries with strict gun control laws still allow exceptions for hunters, they just need to reapply every so often and there are strict regulations on the storage of both the gun and ammunition (e.g. gun safe). You also can't just have an arsenal in your basement but that shouldn't be a huge problem for people who just want to hunt. Most gun control advocates in the US aren't arguing for a complete ban on guns, just stronger regulation and oversight. I am sure that exceptions for hunters can be included considering that other countries with strong gun control laws do as well!
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Found this gem on my Facebook wall recently. "Yup. Time to ban us some spoons. Next week, forks. Baaahh Baaahh Baaahh Sheeple." Unironic sheeple. Also, constant links to websites like https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com and a flurry of posts about how knives are in fact deadlier than guns and people will just resort to chemical weapons if they don't have access to a gun. Why do engineers always have the worst opinions on thing?
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Dirty Job posted:Why do engineers always have the worst opinions on thing? What does your post have to do with engineers?
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Tom Selkis' (Latham Ford) Facebook.......... My guess is that it's shitthatneverhappened.txt, but I'll humor the argument. Many people on assistance work. Maybe if those jobs actually paid employees a living wage for the value they bring their business, there would be more motivation and attraction for people to do them and then a lot less pressure on the safety net while companies make off with millions. Glad to hear that they support a significantly raised minimum wage. 
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Job Truniht posted:What does your post have to do with engineers? Presumably, since it's his Facebook friend, he knows the guy is an engineer. Also, tell that guy he should go find an assault spoon in his drawer and gently caress himself with it.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Tom Selkis' (Latham Ford) Facebook.......... I can't speak with certainty but I'd be pretty surprised if SSDI status shows up on a credit report, maybe someone with more knowledge can elaborate on that point a bit. That said, SSDI is paid out based on the your average earned income prior to being disabled. I ran a few numbers through their calculator based on my own birth-year of 1986 to see what it would take to get $1500.00 a month for SSDI: earning an average of $33,000 annually every year from age 16 until today is what it would take. She gets a little more than half her old pay in SSDI benefits, that's definitely not more than when she was working and got hurt. http://www.socialsecurity.gov/retire2/AnypiaApplet.html quote:she gets $700.00 a month on an EBTcard (food stamps) Possible, but SSDI factors into net income so in order for her to receive $700.00 a month she would have to have 8 people living in her household that don't earn any income themselves. http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/applicant_recipients/fs_Res_Ben_Elig.htm quote:and $800.00 a month for rent. Assuming they are paying for a place to house 8 people, this is probably possible given the low single earnings she is making to support 8 people. quote:Oh yeah and 250 mins free on her phone.  Good god no!quote:That is just south of $3500.00 a month. When she was working she was taking home about $330.00 per week. Not according to what the SSA says it pays out she wasn't, better call their fraud prevention helpline because apparently she somehow convinced the SSA she was earning more than twice what she actually was earning prior to being disabled and also wasn't actually disabled and somehow managed to sneak all that past multiple trained agents. Maybe she bribed them with her sweet cell phone minutes plan. quote:Do the math and then ask yourself: "why the hell should she go back to work?" Because living a subsidized borderline poverty existence your entire life isn't something most people ascribe to? $18,000 a year in net income from SSDI isn't exactly living the loving high life even if you don't have to pay for all your rent or all your food. Inclined to agree that the story is probably just bullshit, as is par for the course.
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Aside from Morgan Freeman, I have seen this one all over my stream twas' 11 days before Christmas, around 9:38 when 20 beautiful children stormed through heaven's gate. their smiles were contagious, their laughter filled the air. they could hardly believe all the beauty they saw there. they were filled with such joy, they didn't know what to say. they remembered nothing of what had happened earlier that day. "where are we?" asked a little girl, as quiet as a mouse. "this is heaven." declared a small boy. "we're spending Christmas at God's house." when what to their wondering eyes did appear, but Jesus, their savior, the children gathered near. He looked at them and smiled, and they smiled just the same. then He opened His arms and He called them by name. and in that moment was joy, that only heaven can bring those children all flew into the arms of their King and as they lingered in the warmth of His embrace, one small girl turned and looked at Jesus' face. and as if He could read all the questions she had He gently whispered to her, "I'll take care of mom and dad." then He looked down on earth, the world far below He saw all of the hurt, the sorrow, and woe then He closed His eyes and He outstretched His hand, "Let My power and presence re-enter this land!" "may this country be delivered from the hands of fools" "I'm taking back my nation. I'm taking back my schools!" then He and the children stood up without a sound. "come now my children, let me show you around." excitement filled the space, some skipped and some ran. all displaying enthusiasm that only a small child can. and i heard Him proclaim as He walked out of sight, "in the midst of this darkness, I AM STILL THE LIGHT." Written by Cameo Smith, Mt. Wolf, PA
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