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Maybe the price is deliberately a bit high in the experimental version and it'll drop later when they've settled on it? It does have BS5 and a 5+ invulnerable save too, I don't know how well that stacks up against a Mortis or a Rifleman Contemptor though. Also my housemate just pointed something out to me from the GW site: Necron Datacards Page posted:This set of Datacards contains 7 large-format cards detailing the Powers of the C’tan, the psychic powers from Codex: Necrons. There are 6 powers on individual cards and the seventh card explains how to use them. So, are they actually psychic powers, or is this just incorrect prose from the copywriters? It'd be weird for Necrons to have actual psychic powers...
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Reynold posted:Ugh. Necron datacards sold out already. Gonna gamble on a preorder from my FLGS. They forgot to call me the last 5 times I went through them, so I guess we will see what happens. Got mine from the Aus webstore just then...........I feel dirty paying Aus prices for anything these days from GW.
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It's not weird for C'Tan to have psychic powers. That is weird wording though, usually Psychic Powers have a Primary. Voted terrible editing mistake. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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Jan 24, 2015 00:38
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Yes, it wouldn't be weird for the beings who are completely disconnected from the warp to have psychic powers. It's a copy editing mistake.
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Jan 24, 2015 00:43
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Yeah, you're right that would be weird. I forgot they were opposite the Old Ones and like anti-warp or whatever. I wonder if it's to much to hope that the Necron's will get a lot of anti psyker weaponry or wargear similar to the Dark Eldar wargear.
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Jan 24, 2015 00:51
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Jan 24, 2015 00:54
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That new Overlord looks quite nice. They seem to have dropped the price from the latest plastic characters too.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Yes, it wouldn't be weird for the beings who are completely disconnected from the warp to have psychic powers. They could be just using the rules framework for pyskers and psychic powers and stuff and not reinventing the wheel and all that jazz. I mean tyranids aren't part of the warp they are just manifesting the Hive minds will and stuff. Of course this is all speculative at this point.
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The rules have been stated in white dwarf as pick a unit, then roll randomly or draw a card to see what happens to that unit which I have no doubt means that a roll of 1 will mean that the C'Tan buffs the unit or something crazy. Hopefully it's offset by the powers being insane.
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Jan 24, 2015 01:06
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Yes, it wouldn't be weird for the beings who are completely disconnected from the warp to have psychic powers. So... Tau psykers confirmed? 
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panascope posted:I'm not him but I live in Vancouver and am always down to meet more players. Hixson, koreban and I play regularly with a couple other guys and Bulbasaur comes up 3-4 times a year to play too. Awww crap. That means I've probably seen you fuckers around. So much for my "Never meet Goons IRL" ethic  .
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Major Spag posted:Awww crap. That means I've probably seen you fuckers around. So much for my "Never meet Goons IRL" ethic This is literally me irl: 
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Jan 24, 2015 04:37
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Hollismason posted:I wonder if it's to much to hope that the Necron's will get a lot of anti psyker weaponry or wargear similar to the Dark Eldar wargear. If you were going to hope for something like that wouldn't you hope for it to actually be good instead? Also, drat The Tomb Awakened is actually a pretty good deal. Not used to GW bundles being discounted, let alone a $40 one. How many points would that be in the old codex?
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Also, drat The Tomb Awakened is actually a pretty good deal. Not used to GW bundles being discounted, let alone a $40 one. How many points would that be in the old codex? 820 points without figuring in upgrades.
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Can anyone suggest a Death Guard/Nurgle Daemon list? I'd like the centrepiece to be a converted Knight, at least a unit of plague marines and terminators as they were my favourite models when I was younger.
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ijyt posted:Can anyone suggest a Death Guard/Nurgle Daemon list? I'd like the centrepiece to be a converted Knight, at least a unit of plague marines and terminators as they were my favourite models when I was younger. What point value are you shooting for? Chaos Terminators are relatively lackluster, though they do have some uses. Plague Marines and MoN Obliterators are very solid, as are MoN Chaos Spawn and MoN Chaos Lords on bikes. I suppose it depends on how competitive you want to make the list but you really can't go wrong just sprinkling from any Nurgle unit entry you like the look of. Same goes for Chaos Daemons, really. Take a Great Unclean one so you have an excuse to get one of those awesome new End Times Nurgle monsters from the Fantasy line.
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Necron codex is out there in the wild.quote:1. Reanimation protocol changed like Fantasy's ward save. Can be used at Instant Death. Dude posted a picture of the hardbook cover, so I'm willing to listen. Lychguards seem like clear winners in those changes, with res orbs hosed. Mango Polo fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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Jan 24, 2015 15:33
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PierreTheMime posted:What point value are you shooting for? Chaos Terminators are relatively lackluster, though they do have some uses. Plague Marines and MoN Obliterators are very solid, as are MoN Chaos Spawn and MoN Chaos Lords on bikes. I suppose it depends on how competitive you want to make the list but you really can't go wrong just sprinkling from any Nurgle unit entry you like the look of. Probably around 1000 to start with, then up to 2000 once I have it painted. Mostly I just really like the look of the forgeworld terminator bits.
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ijyt posted:Probably around 1000 to start with, then up to 2000 once I have it painted. Mostly I just really like the look of the forgeworld terminator bits. I startedd my death guard around 2008. I bought the forgeworld Nurgle terminator upgrade kit as one of my first purchases. I've still not painted them or used them in a game. plague marines are just as tough with their 3+ and fnp and are fearless. That said a small unit with combi meltas is an ok option.
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That's a shame, they look so neat. I suppose I can substitute them for Obliterators. The whole army's future balances on how well I can convert a daemon prince into a nurgle prince.
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MoN terminators are cool and you should use them.
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ijyt posted:That's a shame, they look so neat. I suppose I can substitute them for Obliterators. The whole army's future balances on how well I can convert a daemon prince into a nurgle prince. I typically run two squads of plague marines with double plasma guns, with a plasma pistol and power fist on the champ. They always tank a shitload of damage and beat the crap out of enough stuff to make them points back. I will also always run a heldrake and two units of chaos spawn with the Mark of Nurgle, making them difficult to wound. past that, I've got the same nurgle terminator kit and have been waiting until I finish more of my backlog of models to get to making up a unit with either combi-plasma or meltaguns.
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Mango Polo posted:Necron codex is out there in the wild. Troll or not, do you know if tesla has gotten nerfed? Also Resurrection protocols had it coming.
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If Res orbs are 1 per army one use only they're pretty hosed, if they're just a one use only item that's not to bad. I don't think anyone is surprised at the point increases for the fliers, we all knew that was coming and we weren't going to keep a 100 point flying troop transport. Stat Changes but it's from Natfka although probably reliable at this point. Overlords (and the other special character overlords)- WS and BS 5 instead of 4 Lords - 2 wounds instead of 1 Cryptek - 2 wounds instead of 1 Orikan the Diviner- once the change in stats happens, it remains for the entire game! Flayed ones - same stats but now have 2 weapons (flayer claws, AP5, shred) so have 4 attacks total. Triarch praetorians - 2 attacks instead of 1. Canoptek Wraiths - Toughness 5 instead of 4 Destroyers (both versions) - 2 wounds instead of 1 (finally) Obelisk - 14 AV all around, instead of 12. The Phase shifter, which is now 4+ inv save instead of 3+, states specifically that it doesnt work on the catacomb Barge, just the Overlord, so no more jackass rules interpretation. Death Ray - now is 24" S10, AP1, Heavy 1, Blast, Lance Doomsday cannon, +1 strength to both profiles (so 8/10) If these are true Flayed ones aren't that bad if they get some kind of a minor point reduction, 4 attacks, Shred, and RP isn't terrible. Doomsday Cannon getting a buff is pretty cool. ST8 ST10 hopefully they change some more stats on it. 2 Wound Destroyers means their gonna probably see more play. Canoptek Wraiths T5 that's interesting. Really hope Tomb Blades get a buff of some sort. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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Reynold posted:I typically run two squads of plague marines with double plasma guns, with a plasma pistol and power fist on the champ. They always tank a shitload of damage and beat the crap out of enough stuff to make them points back. I will also always run a heldrake and two units of chaos spawn with the Mark of Nurgle, making them difficult to wound. past that, I've got the same nurgle terminator kit and have been waiting until I finish more of my backlog of models to get to making up a unit with either combi-plasma or meltaguns. Sounds like the perfect units to start with, apart for the Heldrake not too expensive either.
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Does anyone know what this miniature was from and if it is still produced? http://www.coolminiornot.com/188251 I assume its an OoP model, but it would be perfect for the honour guard detachment I'm putting together.
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Lord Twisted posted:Does anyone know what this miniature was from and if it is still produced? I think it's from one of the 4th-5th edition metal veterans boxes. Can't remember which one specifically.
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I think it's from one of the metal Veteran boxes GW used to produce, but it doesn't appear to be on the site any more.
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serious gaylord posted:That new Overlord looks quite nice. They seem to have dropped the price from the latest plastic characters too. It does look real nice, but I don't know how much better it looks than the one from the Command Barge. For $9 more you get a pimpin chariot to ride around in, or you can build it the other way.
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Lord Twisted posted:Does anyone know what this miniature was from and if it is still produced? Devlan is right. It's not produced anymore as far as I know, it was sold in blisters of two as Veteran Sergeants, don't remember if it every got a boxed set.
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So with the new Necrons also being on 32mm bases, I wonder if that suggests a trend of every army being rebased or just the larger ones. Keeping Tau/IG/Eldar on 25mm bases would make sense as they're physically smaller but I wonder if they'll do it for Orks etc. too. e: Woah, I just learned about the weird oval bases in Deathstorm. Weird.
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I suspect small dudes like Guard and Eldar will stay the same. Orks may change, at least the Nobz as they barely fit on their bases currently, but it's probably only 'big' infantry that will change, similar to WHFB. Weird oval bases are probably GW finally realising other companies make resin bases that are the same size as theirs and trying to make things awkward.
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Post 9-11 User posted:Devlan is right. It's not produced anymore as far as I know, it was sold in blisters of two as Veteran Sergeants, don't remember if it every got a boxed set. There's one on ebay at the moment but it's £20 :/
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Apparently this is the C'tan table:quote:All powers are 24" except the Tesseract Vault which has a range of 48". Tesseract Vault powers are are the same strength and ap, but longer ranged and other changes noted below. e: Decurion stuff: 
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Jan 24, 2015 22:13
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I really hope you roll before picking a target, or my prediction may come true!
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Zark the Damned posted:I really hope you roll before picking a target, or my prediction may come true! The C'tan article is pretty clear: pick a target, roll for power, cry. In that order. It wouldn't be the first time WD gets a rule wrong though, so I guess there's still that hope.
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So would that be the first non-LoW with a Str D weapon?
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The only thing stopping me getting Necrons is that I'm already painting a metallic army, and can't be hosed doing NMM (even though chrome toasters would be totally rad).
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:So would that be the first non-LoW with a Str D weapon? Imperial Knights got one on their giant chainsword, so no.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:So would that be the first non-LoW with a Str D weapon? Vortex of Doom is Strength D, and in theory anyone with access to Sanctic can get it. But yeah, this is definitely a bit of an unusual example. Unless there's something we don't know (two rolls on the table each turn somehow since you can fire two guns, a way to get a reroll, roll then pick target, etc) then the C'tan are garbage. At least 1/3 of the shots will be pretty much 100% wasted against any given target, which is far too high of a "miss" ratio for an expensive model like that.
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