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H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

duTrieux. posted:

carmack is an excellent and textbook example of antisocial personality disorder (i.e. sociopathy)

he has a wife and children and i sometimes wonder how super hosed up they are since he used to live in my hometown

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Scott Forstall
Aug 16, 2003

MMM THAT FAUX LEATHER

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

he has a wife and children and i sometimes wonder how super hosed up they are since he used to live in my hometown

you, signing your posts next spring

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

he has a wife and children and i sometimes wonder how super hosed up they are since he used to live in my hometown

carmack seems fairly high-functioning so i'll choose to believe that they're doing ok

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

he has a wife and children and i sometimes wonder how super hosed up they are since he used to live in my hometown

chet and erik of oldmanmurray (then later of psychonauts and portal) used to joke carmack and his wife wanted to "gas the retardeds", and i dunno if it was because of their randian views (kang, his wife, literally called her company fountainhead) or they said something specific about it, but they definitely had weird armadillo aerospace videos in 2005 or so about federal regulations strangling carmack's rocket ambitions

anyway yeah he seems like yet another bootstraps!! software guy, which was disappointing to discover long ago

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

i liked doom but yeah i could see how Carmack was a brain with legs.

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Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
he wrote some typical randroid "all taxation is theft" type thing so yea he's a shithead as far as i'm concerned

he hasn't been relevant for about a decade and a half either, ever since unreal became the gamedev middleware of choice. if he's so smart then why didn't the free market choose his superior product? :smug:

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

https://twitter.com/romero/status/717638622841847808

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Sapozhnik posted:

he wrote some typical randroid "all taxation is theft" type thing so yea he's a shithead as far as i'm concerned

he hasn't been relevant for about a decade and a half either, ever since unreal became the gamedev middleware of choice. if he's so smart then why didn't the free market choose his superior product? :smug:

640k should be enough for anyone

also invented trigonometry for doom

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

Phone posted:

The text messages cited in the charging report also included a discussion of Katz obtaining condoms, the number needed for the encounter, and whether the girl would consent to unprotected sex.

RISCy Business fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Dec 28, 2016

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:

He ain't standing on poo poo no more now that onstad has killed achewood again

https://twitter.com/utilitylimb/status/193412321329152002

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Improbable Lobster posted:

bray has to be the worst name i've heard in a while

yea def go with goku

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

 

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

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RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe
also why the gently caress does the snail get 1 million dollars

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

abraham linkedin posted:

also why the gently caress does the snail get 1 million dollars

needs to be able to buy a plane ticket

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003


it follows sequel got real weird real fast

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

Improbable Lobster posted:

needs to be able to buy a plane ticket

thats going to be one slow rear end treadmill

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

use the money to provide for my family's financial security and then touch the snail

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N-K8SFQAjk

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Salt maze.

Pardot
Jul 25, 2001





pay someone to put the snail into a tupperware container, then pour that in a few pounds of cement and drop it in a lake/ocean duh

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

idk you'd probably want to keep the snail around for when you want to eventually die inthe future

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
if the snail is super intelligent then i'd pool my money with it to create some sort of snail foundation

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


they don't even say that the snail wants to kill you. just let it be on its way and be that guy who has a phobia of snails

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

SNAIL WHY YOU GOTTA BE SUCH A JERK

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

is this frog fractions 2?

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

just smash it, immortal != impervious

Linguica
Jul 13, 2000
You're already dead

Sapozhnik posted:

he wrote some typical randroid "all taxation is theft" type thing so yea he's a shithead as far as i'm concerned
John Carmack on 10-28-2010

Almost everything that I write publicly is about technical details in software or aerospace, and the points are usually not very contentious. I’m going to go out on a limb today and talk about a much more banal topic -– government. This is sort of an open letter to my mother and stepfather, who are intelligent people, but we don’t see eye to eye on political issues. A couple brief conversations a year during visits doesn’t really establish much, and I have wanted to make a more carefully considered set of points.

I had nearly disqualified myself from discuss politics by not bothering to cast a vote for almost 20 years after I was legally able to. I was busy. I paid millions of dollars of taxes without any dodges, and just focused on my work. Listening to political speeches full of carefully calculated rhetoric is almost physically painful to me, and I diligently avoided it.

A couple things slowly brought me around to paying more attention. A computer game company doesn’t need to have much to do with the government, but a company that flies rocket ships is a different matter. Due to Armadillo Aerospace, in the last decade I have observed and interacted with a lot of different agencies, civil servants, and congressmen, and I have collected enough data points to form some opinions. The second thing that has changed for me is becoming a father; with two young sons, I think more about how the world might look in twenty or thirty years when they are adults.

I am an optimist on almost all fronts. Throughout history, there have always been those that argue that the world is going to hell, yet here we are, better off than any previous generation. Not only are things pretty drat good, but there is a lot of positive inertia that makes it likely that things will continue to improve for quite some time. We aren’t balanced at a precipice, where the result of any given election can pitch us into darkness.

However, trends do matter. Small, nearly painless losses accumulate over the years, and the world can slowly change into something you don’t want while you weren’t paying attention. It doesn’t take a cataclysmic crash, just a slow accretion of over regulation, taxation, and dependency that chokes the vibrant processes that produce wealth and growth. Without growth, you get a zero sum game of fighting over the pie that breeds all sorts of problems in government and society.

My core thesis is that the federal government delivers very poor value for the resources it consumes, and that society as a whole would be better off with a government that was less ambitious. This is not to say that it doesn’t provide many valuable and even critical services, but that the cost of having the government provide them is much higher than you would tolerate from a company or individual you chose to do business with. For almost every task, it is a poor tool.

So much of the government just grinds up money, like shoveling cash into a wood chipper. It is ghastly to watch. Billions and billions of dollars. Imagine every stupid dot-com company that you ever heard of that suckered in millions of dollars of investor money before leaving a smoking crater in the ground with nothing to show for it. Add up all that waste, all that stupidity. All together, it is a rounding error versus the analogous program results in the government. Private enterprises can’t go on squandering resources like that for long, but it is standard operating procedure for the government.

Well, can’t we make the government more efficient, so they can accomplish its tasks for less, or do more good work? Sure, there is room for improvement everywhere, but there are important fundamental limits. It is entertaining to imagine a corporate turnaround expert being told to get the federal house in shape, but it can’t happen. The modern civil service employment arrangement is probably superior to the historic jobs-as-political-spoils approach, but it insulates the workforce from the forces that improve commercial enterprises, and the voting influence of each worker is completely uncorrelated with their value. Without the goal and scorecard of profit, it is hard to even make value judgments between people and programs, so there are few checks against mounting inefficiency and abject failure, let alone evolution towards improvement.

Even if you could snap your fingers and get it, do you really want a razor sharp federal apparatus ready to efficiently carry out the mandates of whoever is the supreme central planner at the moment? The US government was explicitly designed to make that difficult, and I think that was wise.

So, the federal government is essentially doomed to inefficiency, no matter who is in charge or what policies they want it to implement. I probably haven’t lost too many people at this point – almost nobody thinks that the federal government is a paragon of efficiency, and it doesn’t take too much of an open mind to entertain the possibility that it might be much worse than you thought (it is).

Given the inefficiency, why is the federal government called upon to do so many things? A large part is naked self interest, which is never going to go away -- lots of people play the game to their best advantage, and even take pride in their ability to get more than they give.

However, a lot is done in the name of misplaced idealism. It isn’t hard to look around the world and find something that you feel needs fixing. The world gets to be a better place by people taking action to improve things, but it is easy for the thought to occur that if the government can be made to address your issue, it could give results far greater than what you would be able to accomplish with direct action. Even if you knew that it wasn’t going to be managed especially well, it would make up for it in volume. This has an obvious appeal.

Every idealistic cry for the government to “Do Something” means raising revenue, which means taking money from people to spend in the name of the new cause instead of letting it be used for whatever purpose the earner would have preferred.

It is unfortunate that income taxes get deducted automatically from most people’s paychecks, before they ever see the money they earned. A large chunk of the population thinks that tax day is when you get a nice little refund check. Good trick, that. If everyone was required to pay taxes like they pay their utilities, attitudes would probably change. When you get an appallingly high utility bill, you start thinking about turning off some lights and changing the thermostat. When your taxes are higher than all your other bills put together, what do you do? You can make a bit of a difference by living in Texas instead of California, but you don’t have many options regarding the bulk of it.

Also, it is horribly crass to say it, but taxes are extracted by the threat of force. I know a man (Walt Anderson), who has been in jail for a decade because the IRS disagreed with how his foundations were set up, so it isn’t an academic statement. What things do you care strongly enough about to feel morally justified in pointing a gun at me to get me to pay for them? A few layers of distance by proxy let most people avoid thinking about it, but that is really what it boils down to. Feeding starving children? The justice system? Chemotherapy for the elderly? Viagra for the indigent? Corn subsidies?

Helping people directly can be a noble thing. Forcing other people to do it with great inefficiency? Not so much. There isn’t a single thing that I would petition the federal government to add to its task list, and I would ask that it stop doing the majority of the things that it is currently doing. My vote is going to the candidates that at least vector in that direction.

Roosevelt
Jul 18, 2009

I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

fart simpson posted:

idk you'd probably want to keep the snail around for when you want to eventually die inthe future

this is an important consideration

minato
Jun 7, 2004

cutty cain't hang, say 7-up.
Taco Defender

Linguica posted:

John Carmack on 10-28-2010
:words:

Some Esquire writer has a "5-minute" rule of thumb when listening to libertarians. Initially they talk sense and make a lot of valid points. At the 5-minute mark, they immediately go off the deep end and start saying poo poo like how doctors shouldn't need to be licensed and restaurant health inspections are a government scam.

raej
Sep 25, 2003

"Being drunk is the worst feeling of all. Except for all those other feelings."

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

he has a wife and children and i sometimes wonder how super hosed up they are since he used to live in my hometown

Grew up in Mesquite, used to work for his wife, bought one of his old cars. He's on the spectrum for sure, but genuinely a good dude.

Valtaherra
Feb 23, 2007

It's a personal pineapple
which one of you is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl32h710_wg

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Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

it's you

Radio Paranoia
Jun 27, 2010

It is now safe to turn off your computer.

nerd beavis and butthead just wasn't as popular, i guess

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



that's all lovely to hear about mr carmack



but i won't write him off as a complete shitbag yet

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anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
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minato posted:

Some Esquire writer has a "5-minute" rule of thumb when listening to libertarians. Initially they talk sense and make a lot of valid points. At the 5-minute mark, they immediately go off the deep end and start saying poo poo like how doctors shouldn't need to be licensed and restaurant health inspections are a government scam.
it's where he says he never paid attention to politics until now, and the actual reason instead of the one he gives is that a black man was elected president and the tea party congress needs to be elected in the upcoming midterms

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