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Teavian
Oct 9, 2012


In Celcius, water only freezes at 0 and boils at 100 in specific parts of the world, so it's not even useful for that.

Better to use the system in which "degrees" actually has something to do with angle measures, like Farenhiet.

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CrRoMa
Nov 12, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Mu Zeta posted:

Exactly. Same reason why words like fortnight and stone for weight shouldn't exist.

I agree but i have it baked into my mind that i used to be 15 stone exactly and now I'm 11 1/2 and you'll never take that away

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
I’m for the USA flipping the Earth the bird by going FULL metric including for the date. Yeehaw happy Fifth of Messidor everyone!

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Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

EmmyOk posted:

This is the saddest poo poo

this is the funniest thing i've read all day. thank you

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
One of the few things America does correctly is numerical date order. "Month, day, year" can be written out strictly in numerals and, if a list of dates is formatted so, can be arranged alphabetically to be in perfect chronological order.

It also gives you a sense of the time of year from the very start of the string, instead of three digits in.

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


Tubgoat posted:

One of the few things America does correctly is numerical date order. "Month, day, year" can be written out strictly in numerals and, if a list of dates is formatted so, can be arranged alphabetically to be in perfect chronological order.

Doesn't America do year/day/month?

Clearly year-month-day is best :roboluv:

ShortyMR.CAT
Sep 25, 2008

:blastu::dogcited:
Lipstick Apathy
I still use a sundial.


*looks at sun*


Yup, its def day time.

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Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747
day time? gamer time. the best time of the day, which a lot of people disagree with.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider

pidan posted:

Doesn't America do year/day/month?

Clearly year-month-day is best :roboluv:

I’ve seen that occasionally but 99% of the time it’s MM/DD/YYYY

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug
America is typically month day year but not always. Internationally it's more often day month year. This if course is one of the fifty thousand reasons time is a gigantic bitch to deal with in programming as not even America is consistent on that one. If you just write 2/1/2018 then you have to know the order that's being written in to know if that's February first or January second.

CrRoMa
Nov 12, 2017

by R. Guyovich
I can accept americans using fahrenheit, its not for me but do what you will. Day-Month-Year is a logical progression though and makes much more sense

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

YYYY-MM-DD is natively sortable and is therefore objectively superior.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider
It’s in the order of most pertinent to least pertinent information.

The month of the year is the most immediately useful information as it immediately narrows down the season, fiscal quarter, etc. the specific day is also important but only makes sense in the context of the month it’s in, hence it comes next.

Lastly is the year which, while meaningful in the context of history, is the least immediately useful piece of information in most use cases of the full date

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

christmas boots posted:

It’s in the order of most pertinent to least pertinent information.

The month of the year is the most immediately useful information as it immediately narrows down the season, fiscal quarter, etc. the specific day is also important but only makes sense in the context of the month it’s in, hence it comes next.

Lastly is the year which, while meaningful in the context of history, is the least immediately useful piece of information in most use cases of the full date

Thank you for this! A much clearer explanation.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.
month day year is also how people talk. For example

ToxicSlurpee posted:

If you just write 2/1/2018 then you have to know the order that's being written in to know if that's February first or January second.

ToxicSlurpee says February first because that's way more natural than saying the first of February.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
The euro styling fits better in some non english languages. In french you say le 23 janvier 2019 or whatever

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

Tubgoat posted:

Thank you for this! A much clearer explanation.

I was largely making it up as I went but it actually made some degree of sense imo

aardwolf
Apr 27, 2013

Gripweed posted:

month day year is also how people talk.

No, that's just how you personally talk.

My birthday is on the 21st of April and that's how I like it :colbert:

aardwolf has a new favorite as of 22:51 on Jan 23, 2019

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Gripweed posted:

month day year is also how people talk. For example

Like in that famous American song, Born on July 4.

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
America does guns and porn really well. Everything else, they do quite badly

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Like in that famous American song, Born on July 4.

"The Fourth of July" is the name of the holiday.

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Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Collapsing Farts posted:

America does guns and porn really well. Everything else, they do quite badly

your avatar disagrees with you

aardwolf
Apr 27, 2013

Gripweed posted:

"The Fourth of July" is the name of the holiday.

If we're going to get pedantic, shouldn't that be "Independence Day"? "The Fourth of July" is a colloquialism.

And the fact that "colloquial" means "used in ordinary or familiar conversation; not formal or literary" is kind of telling.

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
I think the English are far too afraid of the letter Z

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

spit on my clit posted:

your avatar disagrees with you

That's the new default, they didn't choose it.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tubgoat posted:

That's the new default, they didn't choose it.

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Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

spit on my clit posted:

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Then you oughtta hang out in CSPAM!

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tubgoat posted:

Then you oughtta hang out in CSPAM!

i refuse to visit D&D or any D&D subforums. those places are where comedy and not-wanting-to-kill-yourself go to die

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

aardwolf posted:

If we're going to get pedantic, shouldn't that be "Independence Day"? "The Fourth of July" is a colloquialism.

And the fact that "colloquial" means "used in ordinary or familiar conversation; not formal or literary" is kind of telling.

I’m telling you that in american parlance, July third and July fifth are what you will almost always hear. The fourth of July is the only day routinely referred to that way. The xth of y is used in a more formal register.

PHUO: only idiots and college freshmen quote the dictionary

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I’m telling you that in american parlance, July third and July fifth are what you will almost always hear. The fourth of July is the only day routinely referred to that way. The xth of y is used in a more formal register.

PHUO: only idiots and college freshmen quote the dictionary

Webster's dictionary defines pedantic as " https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3798595 "

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Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

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Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

spit on my clit posted:

i refuse to visit D&D or any D&D subforums. those places are where comedy and not-wanting-to-kill-yourself go to die
CSPAM feels about D&D as you do, D&D posters and mods are loving brimming with brainworms.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

spit on my clit posted:

i refuse to visit D&D or any D&D subforums. those places are where comedy and not-wanting-to-kill-yourself go to die

Please start posting in CSPAM. It would be amazing.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Gripweed posted:

Please start posting in CSPAM. It would be amazing.

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Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tubgoat posted:

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Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

spit on my clit posted:

this fairytale wonderland you speak of could not exist. i have to see it right now.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Tubgoat posted:

One of the few things America does correctly is numerical date order. "Month, day, year" can be written out strictly in numerals and, if a list of dates is formatted so, can be arranged alphabetically to be in perfect chronological order.
No it can't. That doesn't work at all. The following dates are formatted the American way and sorted alphabetically and are completely out of sequence.

12/3/2018
4/7/2017
6/2/2019
9/14/2018

If you want them to sort properly you have to write them YYYY-MM-DD, which no one does but everyone should.

2017-04-07
2018-09-14
2018-12-03
2019-06-02

christmas boots posted:

It’s in the order of most pertinent to least pertinent information.

The month of the year is the most immediately useful information as it immediately narrows down the season, fiscal quarter, etc. the specific day is also important but only makes sense in the context of the month it’s in, hence it comes next.

Lastly is the year which, while meaningful in the context of history, is the least immediately useful piece of information in most use cases of the full date
That is an incredible stretch.

If you write the date YYYY-MM-DD then it follows the convention of literally every other number of having the larger value to the left.

Gripweed posted:

month day year is also how people talk. For example


ToxicSlurpee says February first because that's way more natural than saying the first of February.
This is like saying "Everyone thinks in English in their heads, foreigners just translate it into their own language before speaking. Speaking English is just natural."

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tiggum posted:

Everyone thinks in English in their heads, foreigners just translate it into their own language before speaking. Speaking English is just natural.

this is completely correct. everyone naturally knows english as a baby, but we are too stupid to realize it. as we grow to the age when we would start speaking fluently, some idiot (english or non-english) starts blabbering gibberish at us, completely screwing up our flawless dictionary and replaces it with some mangled version of our perfect language. this is true of every language. the americans and brits in particular call their language "english" in an attempt to say that theirs is the closest to the baby's natural dictionary, like slapping your dick on the table to establish dominance. we should ban speaking so that our children grow up speaking their innate unified language, and allow the new age to overtake our old, infantile ways of operating.

#babytalk

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

Tiggum posted:

This is like saying "Everyone thinks in English in their heads, foreigners just translate it into their own language before speaking. Speaking English is just natural."

Foreigners actually speak English all the time, they just switch to a foreign language when Americans are nearby. Haven't you ever seen The Hunt For Red October?

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Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Tiggum posted:

No it can't. That doesn't work at all.
:aaaaa: A fair cop. It occurs to me I've never had to list dates together from multiple years. :classiclol:

christmas boots has a MUCH better justification for it.

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