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xthetenth posted:Why would it be good? Same 4 turret broadside, just a very little bit less slow. Because it's Dreadnought  JuffoWup posted:Edit: does anyone have info on the tier 9 and 10 ships? Quick google search comes up with names of old konig and kaiser class vessels of WW1. I can't imagine those are considered better than the bismark several tiers after the original kaiser and konig is worked through. I'm assuming these are paper designs used. However, now I'm curious why the old name and not ersatz as is normally used when reusing a ship name in the german navy. They'll be H-type ships with fake names, one of which (the 10) is Grossdeutschland, and one is definitely H-39, but not sure if that's the 9 or 10. H-39 was an upscaled Bismarck with 16" guns, H-41 was an improved H-39 with 16.5" guns, and from then on it entered nutty banana Nazi wunderwaffe territory up to a 130,000 ton thing with 20" guns called H-44 NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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Actually, a pre-view pic I saw somewhere else named the 9 and T10 as "Friedrich der Große" and "Großer Kurfürst" respectively. Most likely for H-39 is tier 9 while the tier 10 slot would be better filled by H-41.Gwaihir posted:Wow it really is a giant cruiser with those guns. Great turret speed and reload though. Seems like it'd play way differently than other BBs, in that you probably aren't going to get any citadels on same tier BBs with it, but you should do ruinous damage just punching through superstructures and fore/aft unarmored parts. At least the prem Scharnhorst also has torpedos with 6km range. Gneisenau in the tree will most likely have the option to switch the turrets to a double-38cm setup instead of the tripple-28cms.
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Grossdeutschland was mentioned by name in the "What's coming in 2016" video, but that was months ago, and since they're making the names up anyway they've probably changed a bunch of times
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getting back into this game. the eve communite got me an invite when that matererd. I'd like to join a goon group. im not bad but ot goof so looing for tolerant group. i wante o improre.
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Join the Goon discord, there's usually lots of Goons wanting to division, instructions should be in the op. There's no actual clan because the system hasn't been implemented yet.
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hemophilia posted:getting back into this game. the eve communite got me an invite when that matererd. I'd like to join a goon group. im not bad but ot goof so looing for tolerant group. i wante o improre. Join the Discord, download the app.. you won't need to join a specific group. https://discordapp.com/invite/0lSMRHzXe0ACHNvV I think there is one slot open in SEAMN (pun intended) but that's it. I don't really prune membership because clans not being implemented means no reason to kick people out to make room for serious business.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:So I finally got impatient last night and threw most of my free xp into finally unlocking the Furrytaco. SKIPPED THE KUMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA? You're dead to me
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Magni posted:Actually, a pre-view pic I saw somewhere else named the 9 and T10 as "Friedrich der Große" and "Großer Kurfürst" respectively. Most likely for H-39 is tier 9 while the tier 10 slot would be better filled by H-41. The preview pic is right there in the link which is why I asked. I looked up their names and came up with old ww1 vessels.
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So apparently there's a new fortress attack mode. On one map. For tier X games. 
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JuffoWup posted:The preview pic is right there in the link which is why I asked. I looked up their names and came up with old ww1 vessels. I opened the link and then got distracted and forgot to read it before posting didn't realise there was a preview up already; still the same thing though, fake names applied to what I'm 99% certain are H-39 and H-41, because they don't use project names for paper ships
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NTRabbit posted:I opened the link and then got distracted and forgot to read it before posting didn't realise there was a preview up already; still the same thing though, fake names applied to what I'm 99% certain are H-39 and H-41, because they don't use project names for paper ships Wargaming putting in one of the silly German paper ships with 18" or 20" guns would be an amazing/hilarious gently caress off to the Yamato craziness.
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Hazdoc posted:you No, I played the Kuma all the way through, I just used my free xp to 'pre-elite' the Furutaka. Also, given this game's popularity in  I can't see them giving the Germans the H42-H44, because JAPAN MUST BE STRONKEST. But, seems to love Hitler, so who knows - Germany in WoWs might be the same as Germany in WoT - biggest alpha damage. It would also spur people to grind a new line from scratch, which means ~profits~.
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Gettin' mad the US doesn't have a ship with the 18"/47 with superheavy shells like Jeezus intended.
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Looking at paper stats I'm wondering if they can afford to allow the H41 to be the T10 German battleship. Even with 16.5" guns, only having 8 of them leaves it at a serious disadvantage compared to a Montana or Yamato. What kind of gimmick would they have to give it to make it comparable? Super fast reload? God's own AP shells? Edit: on the other hand, having the H42 would be freaking hilarious. 18.9" guns, 90,000 tons displacement. Even bigger in game than the Yamato. Hell, it sounds like a perfect way to get people to grind another BB tree. I don't know why they wouldn't do it! Gorau fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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Gwaihir posted:Wargaming putting in one of the silly German paper ships with 18" or 20" guns would be an amazing/hilarious gently caress off to the Yamato craziness. Tanks aren't sacred so why the hell would ships be any different to WG right?
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Is it me or does the tier 10 image have triple turrets? (and the ship in the big picture doesn't look quite the same as the Gneisenau) 
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demonR6 posted:Tanks aren't sacred so why the hell would ships be any different to WG right? I never played WoT (Only War Thunder) so I wasn't sure how quick they were to bust out the paper tigers to fill in the obvious holes for things like German and Russian navies.
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James Garfield posted:Is it me or does the tier 10 image have triple turrets? It's not just you If you zoom it to full screen, the icon looks like 3 guns.Also the big artists rendition in the middle of the loving screen is the same ship, with a Bismarck/H-39 behind it, christ, because those definitely aren't Gneisenau turrets So they got around the problem by putting fake triple turrets on a paper battleship, but Montana can't have the super heavy AP shells her guns were firing out of Iowas in real life NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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NTRabbit posted:So they got around the problem by putting fake triple turrets on a paper battleship, but Montana can't have the super heavy AP shells her guns were firing out of Iowas in real life gently caress you, gaijin subhuman!
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For more comedy of this patch: So I had a fun little kiev game the other day. Luckily, I have replays enabled like a smart person. Reviewed that yes, it worked just so I could remind myself of the highlights. Then I transferred to my laptop, updated the client to set up the settings. With all that done, I tried to launch the replay so I can record it. Funny thing, it takes me to the login screen now. So playback of replays are currently disabled. Highlight of the kiev game was catching a myoko coming around an island with torp spread. Then later, I get into a fire fight with a york while an atlanta tried to be cute and come around the same island. Dropped torps for the atlanta while shooting the york. Atlanta ate the torps and died followed a second later by the york dying to my shell barrage. Game ended then because that was the last of the enemy.
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I'm impressed the matchmaker change seems to actually work. Games still loaded quickly and I things actually looked balanced.
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Rather amusing incident in my Tirpitz earlier, though I rather annoyed initially. Cleveland rammed me near the bow, and refused to actually turn off me - even continuing to turn into me when I briefly turned away from him to make it easier. Given where I had initially wanted to go AND the presence of an island within my turning radius in that direction, abandoned that plan and full ruddered the direction I actually wanted to go and just hoped he'd eventually turn off me. And then I saw the Mutsuki. And shortly thereafter, a spread of torpedoes roughly perpendicular to us. Well, then since the Cleveland had caused the problem, he could suffer for it. A brief last minute steering correction to ensure my position was correct, and killing my throttle to dodge the foremost torpedo, and the Cleveland (and his floating wreck after the first two) very nicely absorbed every single torpedo that would have hit me. I proceeded to kill the Mutsuki not too long after, since he had nicely freed me from that logjam and I knew roughly where he was. Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jul 7, 2016 |
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https://github.com/BlindNImpotent/WoWS-Ship-Stats-Calculator/releases/tag/v0.12-alpha I updated fitting tool/stats calculator, if anyone wants to use it.
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I really dislike Zuiho players. People seem to have found that its an amazing seal clubber if it doesn't run into a fighter Bogue. 2 games in a row where an enemy player in one shutdown our team.
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Fighter Bogues are incredibly common though, so trying to seal club with it is extremely chancy at best. They might actually be better served just trying to seal club with a Hosho. edit: Lovely, ended the night pink. Thanks moron Clemson. First he sailed right into a ~3.5 km gap between me in a Budy and a Kongo as I was lining up for a torpedo run. Forcing me to pause so I didn't hit him, only launching after he cleared the Kongo. Of course, he THEN decided to loving spin around and head back on the other side of the Kongo to launch his second set of torpedoes, then continued heading straight ignoring torpedo warnings and the blatantly obvious visual indicators. Hell, he didn't even have to dodge the full spread, just the 2 that didn't hit the remains of the Kongo. Instead, he took both and then proceeded to flood to death, because of course he did. 70+k damage and 2 games later, still pink. Utter bullshit system. Also, reminding myself on the rules of getting rid of or gaining it, what retard at WG decided friendly ramming damage and secondaries should be counted? Players have very little control over secondaries, making them impossible to deliberately damage friendlies with them, and friendly ramming does such pathetic damage that I don't think I've ever seen someone die from it. Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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Turning off your AA guns will also turn off your secondaries. Though it's still a loving stupid system.
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Fighter Bogue is the only build that makes sense given the abysmally small hanger, but bomber Bogue is the only way to get XP. So you'll run into a decent number of bomber Bogues, which are free XP to any Zuiho that knows just how vulnerable the Bogue is. Even if the Bogue is fighter-specc, all you need to do is play footsie with his fighters until your bombers can get a clean run in on the Bogue, then it's lights out. One bombing run should be all it ever takes.
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The more I've played carriers, the more I've realized that fighters are completely unnecessary for success.
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Sacre bleu   Also Scharnhorst, which definitely looks nothing like the triple turret ship that is now certainly the t10 
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Where are those from? Reddit? The Russian forums?
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Facebook, Wargaming released 'em themselves. Dunkerque is supposed to be "the first French ship coming to WoWs", not sure if that's a poorly written way of saying she's the first one they've done, or if they're planning to make her an early premium tier 7, which doesn't bode well for the tree, since Strasbourg should be the premium.
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I really like those quad-turrets. But no rear guns? That is bad if you have to move. So I got the New Mex last night, and holy poo poo it actually lands shots on things, I almost don't know what to do. Really glad I saved up the free XP for the B hull right away though.
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CitizenKain posted:I really like those quad-turrets. But no rear guns? That is bad if you have to move. I actually got fed up with the dispersion on my New Mex a few weeks ago and traded up to a Colorado for ranked. The New Mex is definately a great ship though, but its hard to go back to those shotgun spreads when playing higher tier BBs and Cruisers.
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CitizenKain posted:I really like those quad-turrets. But no rear guns? That is bad if you have to move. Richelieu should be the tier 8, and it has the same layout, albeit with 15" guns as opposed to the 13" guns on Dunkerque. The French battleship tree should be, at least by my reckoning Courbert - 6x 2 12" guns 2, fore, 2 aft, 2 wing Bretagne - 5x 2 13.4" guns, 2 fore, 1 mid, 2 aft Normandie - 3x 4 13.4" guns, 1 fore, 1 mid, 1 aft Lyon - 4x 4 13.4" guns, 2 fore, 2 aft Dunkerque - 2x 4 13" guns, 2 fore Richelieu - 2x 4 15" guns, 2 fore Alsace no. 1 with the quads from no. 3 instead of triples - 3x 4 15" guns, 2 fore, 1 aft Bourgogne - they had been working on a 16" gun design, easy enough to dummy up a quad turret like the fictional German tier 10 triples and make an Alsace no. 3 with 3x 4 16" guns, 2 fore, 1 aft Quad turrets are the French thing NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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NTRabbit posted:Richelieu should be the tier 8, and it has the same layout, albeit with 15" guns as opposed to the 13" guns on Dunkerque. The French battleship tree should be, at least by my reckoning The real Alsace designs had either 9x15", 9x16" or 12x15" so maybe wargaming decided that none of those are suitable for tier 10, and with no tier 10 available the French battleship line will be limited to premium ships. They could invent an Alsace with 12x16" and put that at tier 10, but only the Nazis get that luxury.
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They can gently caress right off if that's what they've done
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EDIT: NVM
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wdarkk posted:Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't see them on the facebook page for either world of warships or wargaming.net. https://www.facebook.com/WorldOfWarships/posts/1047154372034258
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Thanks. No idea why it wouldn't show up on the actual page.
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Started playing this game last night. At first I was winning every game with my little Erie and I was like 'wow I'm really loving good at this game' and then I realized I had been playing computers the whole time, swapped to playing real people and I don't think I won a single game since. I am not good at this game. Edit: Although it is really really fun. I'll probably hop on Discord tonight and be taught to be not bad by goons or otherwise hide my badness by being in a division Edit 2: The moment I head the sound of a full salvo firing in this game I was hooked.
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