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Got some pictures from Warcon yesterday. More historicals than I expected actually. I didn't have that much time to take good pictures as I was giving out demos the entire day. Some pics turned out too fuzzy, so I'll save you guys the headache. Lots of demo games were given, and I had chats with lots of friendly people. My friend's Spectre Operations table    Battlegroup battle for Berlin    Blyat zuka! Our Dracula's America board  And my Carnevale set-up 
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Those are some great looking tables, especially the Berlin one.Ghost of Mussolini posted:Where did you find these paper dolls? They look great based up like that! They're from Peter Dennis' line of books, specifically the Peninsular Wars one. I'd of never considered paper soldiers because they tended to look either pixelated or cartoonish but this guy knows his poo poo. He sells some more directly as PDF downloads on his website, Texican Revolution and some Persian/Greek stuff. But if you want to print and try some out yourself for free you can get some sample pages here.
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Feb 9, 2020 11:24
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I forgot to mention that; they designed that Brandenburger Tor themselves, and had it printed in MDF. Pretty impressive!
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Feb 9, 2020 11:37
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Love the boards. How's battlegroup berlin in play?
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Feb 9, 2020 12:24
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My quest to improve the look of my terrain continues. Lastly I grassed this hill. I put down green grass at the base, mixed in some yellow grass for a transition colour and yellow grass near the top. How'd it turn out?
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Feb 9, 2020 13:30
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Springfield Fatts posted:Those are some great looking tables, especially the Berlin one. Thank you for the link, they're really well done.
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Feb 9, 2020 14:56
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Endman posted:How are the Zvezda kits in 1:100? I've heard they're a bit lacking on the detail side. That is accurate, I'll admit, but for the price it's great value. Considering the scale, I'd hardly call it a deal-breaker.
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Cassa posted:Love the boards. How's battlegroup berlin in play? I didn't have time to see it play out unfortunately.
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Fish and Chimps posted:My quest to improve the look of my terrain continues. Lastly I grassed this hill. I put down green grass at the base, mixed in some yellow grass for a transition colour and yellow grass near the top. How'd it turn out? Looks great! What is the base of the terrain made of? I've been trying to decide on mdf, foam, or something else.
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goodness posted:Looks great! What is the base of the terrain made of? I've been trying to decide on mdf, foam, or something else. Thanks! It's Galeforce 9 so the hill was cut, based and painted. I just added the grass.
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Btw I bought a bag full of dirt cheap Christmas decoration pine trees, and am in the process of converting them to be useful for war gaming. Originally they have a clunky, wooden base and the wire shows at the top.   I cut or pulled off the base, drilled a fitting hole in some more suitable bases, added dirt and grass and applied a dab of green paint to the top.  Not bad for 0.66 euro a pop! Fish and Chimps fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Feb 10, 2020 |
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Feb 9, 2020 18:19
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Both your hill and your trees turned out great!
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Feb 9, 2020 19:00
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Ilor posted:Both your hill and your trees turned out great! Thanks man. Thread has been very active lately. Lots of great stuff. Keep it coming historigoons!
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Feb 9, 2020 19:54
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That terrain looks awesome, especially the sunburnt hill.
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Endman posted:That terrain looks awesome, especially the sunburnt hill. Aw shucks, thanks! I was actually a little worried how it turned out, since I'm not very experienced with building terrain, so I'm very happy with the positive feedback. I wanted to cover it in tufts, flowers, flock and everything I had, but for ease of play I stuck with simple static grass. I've never liked building terrain much, but I think I'm starting to warm up to it.
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I've decided to forget about Early War for the moment and instead to concentrate on the Eastern Front between 1942 and 1943, because there's lots to work with for both What a Tanker and Chain of Command scenario wise, and models are plentiful. However, in typical wargamer fashion, I'm having difficulty pinning down how I should paint my German tanks. Digging through the internet, I've found that it became regulation to paint camouflage over dark yellow in 1943, but that some tanks were painted in camouflage in 1942. All the photos I've seen are in black & white and very unhelpful. Should a Panzer III be painted in dunkelgelb with camouflage approaching Stalingrad in '42? What about later in '43? Should they both just be dunkelgrau? Why does 'dunkel' sound so funny to say? 
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Endman posted:I've decided to forget about Early War for the moment and instead to concentrate on the Eastern Front between 1942 and 1943, because there's lots to work with for both What a Tanker and Chain of Command scenario wise, and models are plentiful. Basically all tanks (except those made for North Africa) were painted grey in factory until spring of 43, and then some had camo painted on over that, usually a two colour camo pattern by adding brown or green. There'd be all kinds of variations due to field units having paint stores, existing tanks remaining in use, tanks meant for North Africa being re-routed for Europe etc. Also there are cases of captured paint stocks being used in the field for camo paint afaik. After that they switched to dunkelgelb as a base for everything, but the big issue (or freedom!) is that some had camo painted in factory, some in the field, and even different factories did it differently over time as paint supplies fluctuated and speed of construction was prioritized. But no, grey would be the exception in 43. If you are not specifically dead set on Barbarossa or Stalingrad or anything that locks you into 41-42, I'd go with a dunkelgelb base and pick a camo that you like. Some camos are very specifically later in the war, like Hinterhalt ("Ambush pattern"), so maybe steer away from that. Anyways, this is a pretty good introduction to the topic: https://panzerworld.com/german-armor-camouflage
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lilljonas posted:Basically all tanks (except those made for North Africa) were painted grey in factory until spring of 43, and then some had camo painted on over that, usually a two colour camo pattern by adding brown or green. There'd be all kinds of variations due to field units having paint stores, existing tanks remaining in use, tanks meant for North Africa being re-routed for Europe etc. Also there are cases of captured paint stocks being used in the field for camo paint afaik. Thanks for the information! I reckon I'll go with the dunkelgelb/red-brown/olive-green camo scheme because it seems like a sensibly common one. As you said, I'd rather not be locked into 41-42, and I'm not totally set on Stalingrad or anything like that. Having the camouflage applied by whoever happened to be standing around in the maintenance section with a broom gives me plenty of room to paint in my usual, not entirely neat fashion as well.
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Went to a game shop on the outskirts of Copenhagen, since I heard they carry FoW-stuff there. Turns out they won't stock it anymore thanks to low sales (that's bad) but they let me rummage through the boxes and get anything for 50% off! (That's good!)
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Endman posted:Thanks for the information! Yup, chances are that your tank was painted by Klaus "Picasso" Wünderkind over here, so basically who knows when it comes to German camo. Go with a style you like. 
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Endman posted:How are the Zvezda kits in 1:100? I've heard they're a bit lacking on the detail side.
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Love that picture. It can excuse all my most lazy German camo paint jobs. I'm starting to prepare my US rifle platoon for CoC, but one of the support options are not covered by decent plastic figures in 15mm: .50 HMG on tripod! So, one of the boxes I got for half off was an armored rifle platoon, with loads of infantry, half tracks and vehicle mounted .50 HMG's. I took one of the tripod .30 from the infantry sprue.  After cutting off his little weeny gun, I pared down the vehicle mounted .50 to fit his tripod.  Then I took his assistant and made sure he fit with the newer, bigger gun.  To ensure maximum modelling porn, I magnetised him. This also makes it possible to do.individual casualty removal 
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Feb 10, 2020 18:08
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I ran an ACW Sharp Practice game at FlintCon over the weekend, had a ton of fun. Played in llor's CoC game too.            
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muggins posted:I ran an ACW Sharp Practice game at FlintCon over the weekend, had a ton of fun. Played in llor's CoC game too. Great looking game!
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Yeah, mugginns' ACW game was fun, and his minis and terrain were all fantastic. I played on the Confederate side and we had a series of bad draws early on that put us behind the Union in a way from which we never really recovered. We inflicted a lot of casualties, but the Union troops were easily able to keep us from fulfilling our primary objective ("Git the goooold!"). I love the tough choices that SP2 gives the players.
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Thanks m8s
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It's great to hear a couple other goons enjoyed themselves at Flintcon this year as well. I would've loved to play in either of your games. There was definitely some nice looking tables there including muggins. I got to play What a Tanker! to start things off which was a blast. It took place in North Africa, with the British and Germans fighting for an oasis. Our group played for the objective instead of just blowing each other up. The British took an early lead and the Germans just couldn't catch up. It was hosted by Michigan Toy Solider with some nice looking terrain and painted tanks, definitely a great group of people.
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A friend is giving away his FoW late Soviets and early Japanese. What good games can I rope in my other friends into playing with this? Did battlegroup ever get rules for Manchuria? Do the early soviet and 1941 Japanese lists match up well for Manchuria? Notably, the the soviet list (two person command elements, 4... 14manz squads?) is Regular at +5 while Japanese (two man command section, 3 knee mortar teams, three squads of 10ish) is +1.
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Run them in CoC
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Yeah, the Japanese would get an extra weapon team or light vehicle but it looks like a pretty good set-up after that. Give them a crappy armoured car or Japanese crap-tank if you want that early war flavour. 14 man sections that consist of a single team is interesting, huge shock sponges but also a tad unwieldy, which is an interesting trade-off.
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OK lads, who among you have money and have a burning passion for Soviets? Because that's entirely too much poo poo for me, especially considering how I feel about games putting arty on the table. Not pictured: a box of Japanese and a box T-34s, as well as a big GW carrier filled with yet more soviets. E: I mean, how much of that stuff do I even need for Battlegroup, especially considering that the Japanese contingent is smoll.
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I’d probably buy the American half tracks if the price was right. You in the US?
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JcDent posted:OK lads, who among you have money and have a burning passion for Soviets? If shipping to Australia wasn’t prohibitive I’d be all over that.
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I'd probably be interested in the Katyushas because I am the uncultured barbarian who is OK with artillery on the table.
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moths posted:I'd probably be interested in the Katyushas because I am the uncultured barbarian who is OK with artillery on the table. If realism is required they can always be on the table, firing on things that are off the table 
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I tried listbuilding for Battlegroup yesterday, and Battalion and even Company levels are just waaay too big (also need a huge table). There's also a company of Hungarians in all of this, which I'll think I'll keep. Having some of your own fascists means I don't have to go against Japan!
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moths posted:I'd probably be interested in the Katyushas because I am the uncultured barbarian who is OK with artillery on the table. Right, the Katyushas have the trucks mounted on bases... and that's about all. I think all the other bits are there and you'll have enough bodies (including rocket carrying dudes). I may need to find you a truck - I saw a few around. LingcodKilla posted:I’d probably buy the American half tracks if the price was right. You in the US? Lithuanian. Sorry, I think he only had 5 halftracks, which is about as many as I would need. E: Jesus Christ, the product pictures on BF's website look like poo poo. Somehow, it has gotten worse since the days when I used to window shop there, what the gently caress.
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JcDent posted:Do the early soviet and 1941 Japanese lists match up well for Manchuria? Notably, the the soviet list (two person command elements, 4... 14manz squads?) I can't tell you if that's what it is in Battlegroup, but I can tell you the squads were 11 soldiers on paper and the command elements were larger. Of course, you can't always trust paper but I consider it unlikely that oversize squads were ever much of a thing given the manpower and supply issues the Soviet Union had in 1941 - especially not in combination with an undersize command element.
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LatwPIAT posted:I can't tell you if that's what it is in Battlegroup, but I can tell you the squads were 11 soldiers on paper and the command elements were larger. Of course, you can't always trust paper but I consider it unlikely that oversize squads were ever much of a thing given the manpower and supply issues the Soviet Union had in 1941 - especially not in combination with an undersize command element. I was talking about CoC. Those were the earliest lists I could find for USSR and Japan. E: Is there an official CoC list for Nazi Scum Hungarians? And can anybody tell what's this supposed to be: 
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