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KillHour posted:I had to look this up, but Vegemite isn't banned in the US. You can buy it in a few specialty stores or online. It's just that nobody buys it. Yeah,I looked it up after posting my reply -too lazy to edit-. Time ago there was this rumor that it had been banned, but welp, it seems not.
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What sort of feelings and stereotypes do people in Mexico have about their Southern neighbors? Like Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans and Costa Ricans?
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Well...I don't live close enough to the South border, so I'm not sure how the towns over there treat immigrants. I guess is a mixed thing? Some people see them as "brothers and sisters" because of the idea that all latinos should stick together, and even help them to cross the country, others kinda don't like them. I'm not sure, honestly. I think we don't have a strong stereotype about them,like we do with Brazilians and Argentinians.
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Desperado Bones posted:Well...I don't live close enough to the South border, so I'm not sure how the towns over there treat immigrants. I guess is a mixed thing? Some people see them as "brothers and sisters" because of the idea that all latinos should stick together, and even help them to cross the country, others kinda don't like them. I'm not sure, honestly. I think we don't have a strong stereotype about them,like we do with Brazilians and Argentinians. What's the Brazilian and Argentinian stereotype?
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How do Mexicans view the regional Francophones? Are there any particular stereotypes about Franco-canadians, Caribbean Francophones or people from French Guyana?
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Captain Log posted:What's the Brazilian and Argentinian stereotype? Brazilians are all black, women are hot and they like to party all the time. Argentinians are blonde wannabe Europeans who come to Mexico to try to be soap opera actors while working in a restaurant. Kopijeger posted:How do Mexicans view the regional Francophones? Are there any particular stereotypes about Franco-canadians, Caribbean Francophones or people from French Guyana? In Mexico, if there are Francophones, they must be technically nonexistence. No one remembers the French Guyana, or cares, sorry guys. Canadians, no matter the language, are seen as nicer toward us than Americans. Nice and cool people. I think, even if we got invaded by France long time ago, we don't have a "gently caress the frogs har har" sentiment. I mean, people like to learn French language, the Alliance Française is in the country, we don't have a slur for French, and deep in the South no one gives a poo poo. I'm sorry American goons, but the USA is still the most hated country.
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Desperado Bones posted:I'm sorry American goons, but the USA is still the most hated country. 
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Guadalajara goon checking in! I shall defend the honor of Tortas Ahogadas as the best street food.  ookuwagata posted:What sort of feelings and stereotypes do people in Mexico have about their Southern neighbors? Like Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans and Costa Ricans? Sadly, most people around here don't think too highly about them. There's an industrial train network that goes all the way from Chiapas to the U.S. border, and mexicans all around the route treat the south americans trying to get to the U.S. pretty much like poo poo.  There are exceptions, of course, but there's always news of people being threatened by both the cartels and the Mara Salvatrucha (!!!) for helping migrants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_tren_de_la_muerteDesperado Bones posted:Yeah,I looked it up after posting my reply -too lazy to edit-. Time ago there was this rumor that it had been banned, but welp, it seems not. I read once that one of the only commercial products explicitly banned by mexican Law are... Garbage Pail Kids cards. 
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Pentaro posted:Guadalajara goon checking in! I shall defend the honor of Tortas Ahogadas as the best street food. Isn't that the train that was nicknamed "La Bestia" (The Beast)? Yeah, I didn't mention the cartels and maras because I thought I had already said that before. I'm really curious about how things are in the towns just right on the South border. Do they hate them, help them, don't care? I think in Tabasco, they have an altruist group that helps immigrants in need? Fake edit; Here it is, I wasn't imagining things: http://www3.diputados.gob.mx/camara...rgues_migrantes Real Edit: it's in Spanish, but it explains how to travel safely in train. http://www.hermanosenelcamino.org/para-migrantes.html Desperado Bones fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Dec 9, 2014 |
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bump! I spent six months in Mexico on bicycle from Coahuila to Chiapas, with a lot of that time in the general area of the OP. After getting sick of the desert, from Piedras Negras -> Matehuala, I descended the mountains east toward the coast, going through Ciudad Del Maiz, El Naranjo, Ciudad Valles and Tuxpan on the way to Veracruz. Ciudad Valles is gangster as gently caress, I rolled into town at noon and spent the rest of the day in the back of a Corona truck making beer deliveries and blaring El Komander. Tuxpan was pretty rough too, but had cool bomberos.. I ended up having somewhat serious surgery in Veracruz and regret it a whole lot! The weirdest part of my trip was maybe the northern interior. Monclova and Saltillo, especially. The people I met mostly came from "white" families, and especially tried to trace their heritage back to Sephardi Jews. The referred to more native-looking southern Mexicans as "Oompa-Loompas", or, short orange people. Other than that, I really enjoyed the small towns in the high desert where I would mostly sleep in agave farms among the pigs. In the south, everyone got really chill and that remained the same as I continued through to El Salvador.
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Aliquid posted:bump! Bumps your bump. People on some parts of North Mexico tend to be whiter, and more in love with American culture. And more racists, it's a bit insane. I'm glad you made it alive  haha! You should post photos, if you took any!Currently I'm not in Tampico, and I can finally sleep soundly at night without worrying about chopped heads and gun shootings. I'm living the tropical life, down South in Tabasco. Some of the problems we have over here is lots of rain, thieves,poor public transport,bad roads, and a serial rapist that's scaring the poo poo out of everyone.
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So, I know you mentioned earlier that ground beef is considered a lovely thing to put in tacos and burritos, what all do you use ground beef for? Chili? Tortas? Do you guys even know about the glory of a Christmas Day Ground Beef Tamale, or are you still blind to it's majesty? Also, what's the best pepper to use to make hot sauce, in your opinion?
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Captain Bravo posted:So, I know you mentioned earlier that ground beef is considered a lovely thing to put in tacos and burritos, what all do you use ground beef for? Chili? Tortas? Do you guys even know about the glory of a Christmas Day Ground Beef Tamale, or are you still blind to it's majesty? Chili is an American invention, so you will only find it canned or in whatever American restaurant franchise sells it. The one from Carl's Jr. makes my stomach hurt. Carne molida in tortas? That's a sin, man. This is one of the things we do with grounded beef:  Actually my mom sometimes makes tamales with carne molida It's also used to fill some dishes like the oh so famous panuchos.Best pepper, in my opinion, is chile piquin. Also known as amashito. I once was offered to put one in a taco,while we were having carnes asadas, that poo poo made me deaf from one ear for several minutes. It's the only pepper that has done that. Second one is habanero. Goes excellent with the cochinita pibil. Jalapeños and serranos are usually very tame.
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Oh, that's something else I was wondering about! How prevalent are refried beans in actual Mexican cuisine? Are they a Tex-Mex thing, like Chili, or are they in pretty much everything?
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Captain Bravo posted:Oh, that's something else I was wondering about! How prevalent are refried beans in actual Mexican cuisine? Are they a Tex-Mex thing, like Chili, or are they in pretty much everything? It depends, I guess. How do I describe this? Instead of smearing mayo on your torta, some will add beans. It's also usually just a side dish. The holy Mexican combination is meat+rice+refried beans. That's a classic in every home,party and restaurant over here. Do you go out and buy tamales? You get refried beans. You were invited to a tacky quinceañera? Refried beans with spaghetti, and cake on the same plate. Want barbacoa, roasted chicken, milanesa,etc...? Here's your refried beans to accompany. Easiest dish is to smear refried beans on a slice of bolillo, put some manchego cheese and send that in to the oven. There's also,I guess, like a dozen or more different brands specialized in canned beans, and more than a dozen different types of canned refried beans. From refried beans with jalapeño, to refried beans with chorizo, to refried beans made from non-Mexican beans. Of course, they are a world of difference from chili, it's usually something extremely easy to make and depending in how much miserly you are you will add water while preparing them until the beans become some sort of black liquid.
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Are the spreadable beans on tortas refried? I've seen brown refried beans similar to tex-mex in the interior north, but anywhere I got a torta the beans I thought were just mashed black beans. I tended to stay away from beef in general. Like you said, there just aren't many cows (or good cattle land) in Mexico and it shows in the beef quality. It was weird getting down into Guatemala and all of a sudden the tacos were filled with this pulled roast beef that tasted like it came out of my own crock pot. And yeah, like you said, northern Mexicans were super racist. I posted this in the bike touring thread, but here's a youtube of me and two polish cyclists in two areas: the middle of the desert, San Luis Potosi, and in the sugar cane fields of central Veracruz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch16YmdUc9Y
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What do people in Mexico think about Mormonism? Is it well known? Are there a lot of missionaries there?
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Tao Jones posted:What do people in Mexico think about Mormonism? Is it well known? Are there a lot of missionaries there? I think we consider them in the same group of Jehovah witnesses? Hahaha. I don't know. Their churches are creepy, and they seem creepy, and only once I saw a brown Mormon. The rest look like young white gringos. They have been putting their buildings everywhere, but they always seem rather empty. It's kinda weird. My ex- had a story with a couple of Mormons who were talking him in,every single loving day. Of course his mother kicked them out of their home, and she got called the Devil and Satan by the Mormons Another goth gay friend managed to gently caress one, and got in trouble with the Mormon dude's family. He also got called a Satanic sinner in the middle of the street.
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How's t he party and student life in Mexico? Great thread, btw.
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Jyppe posted:How's t he party and student life in Mexico? Great thread, btw. Depends in which part of the country you are living, how old you are, and how much of a nerd you are. Parties can get wild if you know how to make them and know enough people. Goths and metalheads tend to make some really good stuff. There's also the weaboo students that act as they are better than anyone because their lips have never touched a drop of alcohol, parties with them tend to get boring. Student life also changes depending on your economical background. There's the rich students that have drivers and fancy poo poo like that, then you have the poor students that survive on instant noodles and kool-aid.
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Desperado Bones posted:There's the rich students that have drivers and fancy poo poo like that, then you have the poor students that survive on instant noodles and kool-aid. 
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Is it true that goths and metalheads are enormously popular in Mexico, and sometimes will straight-up basically turf war each other? I swear I saw a news headline years ago about a gang of metalheads just beating the poo poo out of hundreds of goths in Mexico City.
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Captain Bravo posted:Is it true that goths and metalheads are enormously popular in Mexico, and sometimes will straight-up basically turf war each other? I swear I saw a news headline years ago about a gang of metalheads just beating the poo poo out of hundreds of goths in Mexico City. Oh,no,no. Goths and metalheads tend to tolerate each other, well, they do outside Mexico City. Most of my friends were among those groups. What happened is that years ago emo kids were turning in to something very popular, so metalheads started to beat the poo poo out of them. But yeah,indeed, both groups are very popular. As funny as it might sound to an American, many people consider it more a cultural thing than a fashion trend. papasyhotcakes posted:Tang and Zuko please Zuko and Tonayán, that's real life. 
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Just to add a bit more, so you guys get an idea of how racist they can get,when Lupita Nyong'o was told to be among the most beautiful persons in the world all my Northern friends were up arms. "How could they say that black woman with short hair is beautiful?! She looks ugly because she is too black." Specially a friend of mine, who wouldn't stop saying that they should had chosen Rihanna (lighter skin) and everyone agreeing with her. To add to the irony, you have brown Northern Mexicans being racist towards other brown Mexicans. It's a whole Uncle Ruckus poo poo that happens.
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Desperado Bones posted:Chili is an American invention, so you will only find it canned or in whatever American restaurant franchise sells it. The one from Carl's Jr. makes my stomach hurt. Carne molida in tortas? That's a sin, man. This looks like exactly like chili from some parts of the US, by the way. What exactly goes in this dish?
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litany of gulps posted:This looks like exactly like chili from some parts of the US, by the way. What exactly goes in this dish? Ground beef, almonds, raisins, carrots, peas, potatoes, tomato sauce. My mom ads capers as well. We call it "picadillo", and the one I like the most, usually has a sweet taste, and is not spicy.
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Desperado Bones posted:Just to add a bit more, so you guys get an idea of how racist they can get,when Lupita Nyong'o was told to be among the most beautiful persons in the world all my Northern friends were up arms. "How could they say that black woman with short hair is beautiful?! She looks ugly because she is too black." Specially a friend of mine, who wouldn't stop saying that they should had chosen Rihanna (lighter skin) and everyone agreeing with her. To add to the irony, you have brown Northern Mexicans being racist towards other brown Mexicans. It's a whole Uncle Ruckus poo poo that happens. I'm so so sorry that this is the impression that my part of the country has given everyone. For the record I think Lupita is an extremely beautiful woman and that all the people are equal no matter the color of their skin. People here tend to associate whiteness with wealth and culture, and I am deeply ashamed of that state of affairs.
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papasyhotcakes posted:I'm so so sorry that this is the impression that my part of the country has given everyone. For the record I think Lupita is an extremely beautiful woman and that all the people are equal no matter the color of their skin. People here tend to associate whiteness with wealth and culture, and I am deeply ashamed of that state of affairs. Yeah, that's a big problem over here, and many pretend it doesn't exist. Although slavery and segregation did exist in my country, it was never mentioned while I was studying, and there's a lack of racial equality. It's so ridiculous that a decade ago people actually defended an old and very famous racist cartoon when the creator/publishing house got called out in the US.   "Racism never happened in Mexico, so it's harmless!!"
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Desperado Bones posted:Yeah, that's a big problem over here, and many pretend it doesn't exist. Although slavery and segregation did exist in my country, it was never mentioned while I was studying, and there's a lack of racial equality. It's so ridiculous that a decade ago people actually defended an old and very famous racist cartoon when the creator/publishing house got called out in the US. Oh boy, Memín Pinguín... I used to work at a comic book store around the time when the whole Memín thing exploded. The publishing group who owned the rights to that abomination thought they were sitting on a gold mine, so for a few months we were bombarded with Memín merchandise. Turns out, everybody was defending the thing, but nobody cared enough to actually buy it (The fact that it's a boring soap opera strip from the fifties might explain that). Years later, the publisher declared bankruptcy and ordered us to destroy all those Memín comics. There's a very special storyline that Memín apologists like to use as an example of how non-racist the author was:  A fat mess, indeed! In this arc, Memín and friends travel to Texas for some reason or another. There, they try to buy breakfast at a café but the owner is a member of the KKK and tells 'em to gently caress off. So of course, the non-racial-stereotype-caricature characters stand up for their friend and everything's fine once again.  One must consider, however, that Memín Pinguín only has two defining features: He's black and he's a moron. Seriously, all story arcs can be summarized as "Memín gets in trouble because of either his race or his stupidity, thankfully his not-black not-idiot friends are there to save him from himself". It's kinda hosed up. Also as you can see his mother is literally Aunt Jemima.Here, have some Memín animes.
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My normal meals while traveling were raiding Oxxos. One of my favorite things were Negritos, which seemed to be in the process of rebranding. By the time I got to Southern Mexico, they had been repackaged as Nitos, but still featuring the little black kid with the afro.
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Aliquid posted:My normal meals while traveling were raiding Oxxos. One of my favorite things were Negritos, which seemed to be in the process of rebranding. By the time I got to Southern Mexico, they had been repackaged as Nitos, but still featuring the little black kid with the afro. So everyone can get an idea, Negritos is a hot-dog bun, filled and covered with cheap chocolate. Yet they are nice. And yes, they completely changed the name, and the kid is already white with an afro. Also, I just discovered this:  Holy poo poo with my country!, ahahaha...
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Mexican goon living in Mexico City here. I just noticed this thread and would like to contribute to the thread if Desperado Bones is ok with it. I'm 30 years old, single, middle class telecom engineer. Due to my job nature, I have traveled to many cities in Mexico and have also traveled to some other countries (Guatemala, Colombia, Peru, Brazil, France, China) for long periods of time (at least a month in each), so I have some insight on how people live in other regions of Mexico and in other countries compared to Mexico City. I'm a "chilango" (people from Mexico City). This was usually a name for people from other states coming to Mexico City, but it is now more popular to refer to people from Mexico City. Being a chilango means that you will be hated by people from other states, but this was rarely the case when I traveled to another city because of work. Although it is true we chilangos think of ourselves as the best Mexico has to offer, and think of people from other states as on a lower level, which is wrong in so many levels. Regarding the drug war, this is a theme you only see in the news here in Mexico City. You will not be affected in your everyday life by this, which I think is in sharp contrast with what Desperado Bones described living in Tampico. You will only care about this if you travel to a state that you know has drug related violence. A couple of quick observations made during my travels about my interactions as a mexican to other countries: 1. Chinese people don't know what Mexico is. Usually you need to explain them that it's the country south of the US. 2. I was told french people would be rude in general, but they were really nice to me after they noticed I could speak spanish. 3. Guatemaleans (sp?) have a love/hate relationship with mexicans. But all people in a central american country hate Mexico regarding sports (football). 4. Colombians are the people we mexicans get along with the best IMO. 5. Brazilians (at least cariocas) are very nice and you can feel they like mexicans, but there's still a language barrier there that doesn't allow you to improve relations you make. 6. Peruvians are not very welcoming to other latinos, and hate chileans, but their food is really good so I forgive them. 7. Everybody except the chinese hate the americans. China swallows everything american from movies to the american lifestyle. 8. Canadians are the nicest people I've known. 9. Australians are everywhere. 10. You will always get screened by migration authorities in airports if you are a brown skin mexican as I am. 11. The argentinian stereotype is true, but most of the argentinians I've met while traveling are real down to earth people and nice. In general, mexicans are liked in most places. Latin America is special due to the strong influence of mexican tv, which was really popular in most of Latin America (including Brazil) and still retains some of it's influence. So mexican culture is somewhat well known in those countries.
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El Chingon posted:Being a chilango means that you will be hated by people from other states, but this was rarely the case when I traveled to another city because of work. Although it is true we chilangos think of ourselves as the best Mexico has to offer, and think of people from other states as on a lower level, which is wrong in so many levels. Pinche chilango! Just kidding, dude. But yeah, people from Mexico City are usually stereotyped as good con artists. I've been told to never trust a chilango when it comes to selling something, or money. And you are blessed, waking up in the middle of the night because drug dealers decided to kill each other is not funny.
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Desperado Bones posted:Pinche chilango! Que pedo wey! haha. Your life is not influenced by the drug war in Mexico City, but I've had past experiences while traveling inside Mexico. 3 people were hanged from a bridge next to my hotel in Chihuaua. There was a gunfight outside the airport of Torreon (North Mexico) after my flight arrived, so the taxi driver had to take a different route. I could hear the gunshots in the distance. A head on a stick outside a supermarket in Monterrey (actually it was Guadalupe, a municipality in the outskirts of Monterrey). People advising me not to go out at night because of the current violence in Torreon and Monterrey. DrSunshine posted:Have you ever heard of the game Tropico? If you have, what do you think of it? It's sort of a city-building game with a tongue-in-cheek / satirical feel where you play as the ruler of a Latin American country. Is it offensive? How about Kerbal Space Program? It's actually being developed by a Mexican game studio, which is a pretty positive and neat thing! This is something that got me interested, I own Tropico, but I don't find most of the content offensive since it is mostly influenced by what people call a "Banana Republic" from the 20th century. I'd believe countries from Central America and the caribbean would find it offensive though. Regarding KSP, I didn't loving know it was developed by a mexican studio, this is totally new to me. I've seen the game on steam and have it on my wishlist. I guess there's more incentive to owning it now to support them, as the game industry in Mexico is practically non-existent. The gaming scene in Mexico is somewhat similar to the US. All my friends have an xbox or a playstation now, and the more popular games are FPS types and FIFA. But you also have your PC gamer audience (I find myself rotating between consoles and PC depending on the games released for each one).
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Have either of ya'll seen this article yet? What do you think of it? Is it pretty on-point, or completely off-base and offensive?
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Captain Bravo posted:Have either of ya'll seen this article yet? What do you think of it? Is it pretty on-point, or completely off-base and offensive? La Santa Muerte is not exclusive for drug dealers, there's a big following and it has been around for decades. My grandpa used to be a follower of the Holy Death. From my understanding, Ralph Lauren's clothes didn't became popular because of drug dealers. They were already a synonym of wealth among poor and medium class. If you come from a poor background and wear something that looks like or is Ralph Lauren(or Polo as it is called over here), Aeropostale or Lacoste, then you are someone who is doing well economically,even if you aren't. A thing I know happens, and they missed to mention, is that important drug dealers are treated as royalty in prison. They get whatever they want and need. Mr.Drug Dealer wants a special meal, shrimps? Yes, he will get them. Does he want a HD TV to watch some football? Alright, here you have it.
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I guess this is more of a question towards Latin America in general. As a resident of a Latin American state, why do you think historically Latin American countries haven't fought each other very often? It seems like most of your part of the world has had to deal with a lot of civil wars but not many situations with two or more actual states engaging in traditional war. I know that there are distinctions, but it seems like Latin America is a lot more homogeneous than any other part of the world. It would be more difficult for a government of one Latin nation to skew another nation as an "other." A Guatemalan and a Peruvian have a lot more in common with each other than say, a German and Frenchman. Sorry if it's a weird question or if I sort of answered it already but I just think it's an interesting thing to ask and discuss.
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Kanine posted:I guess this is more of a question towards Latin America in general. As a resident of a Latin American state, why do you think historically Latin American countries haven't fought each other very often? It seems like most of your part of the world has had to deal with a lot of civil wars but not many situations with two or more actual states engaging in traditional war.
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