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steinrokkan posted:Those people generally resort to murdering each other because there's an unpopular dictator hogging resources for the benefit of his closest ethnic / tribal group, hth I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about the hypothetical benevolent dictator who ought to subjugate them
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The Goatfather posted:when the will of the people is to murder the other tribes in the tradition of their grandfathers, or round up all the albinos and murder them for magic reagents, or kidnap the other villages' kids and draft them into military service, an unpopular dictator can be a good thing History abounds with great examples.
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The Goatfather posted:I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about the hypothetical benevolent dictator who ought to subjugate them You are talking about people who are killing each other for no apparent reason (something that totaly exists), and would be civilized by a ruthless dictator, though The same breed of ruthless dictator who caused all the trouble to begin with.
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Agag posted:History abounds with great examples. In a paternalistic country you need a stron leadership figure to divide the country even more than it already was, that's obvious!
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boom boom boom posted:How come Rhodesia isn't as well known, in the US at least, as South Africa? Was it not as bad in Rhodesia? - doesn't have the same name in the present day - has fewer natural resources - never formalized apartheid to the same extent - never pursued nuclear weapons - diplomatically recognized by no one, though some countries maintained Taiwan-style quasi-embassies. any recognition was guaranteed to piss off the UK just like recognition of Taiwan pisses off the PRC
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Gazpacho posted:pick your reason - isn't in the Commonwealth - is known mainly as a punchline to cheap jokes about Zimbabwe dollars - has had a shorter period of independence, SA being a dominion rather than a colony since 1910.
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steinrokkan posted:- is known mainly as a punchline to cheap jokes about Zimbabwe dollars
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Oh poo poo, Rhodesia is Zimbabwe? Lol.
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boom boom boom posted:Oh poo poo, Rhodesia is Zimbabwe? Lol.
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vyst posted:Is Rhodesia where General Butt Naked is from? that's Liberia and he's a preacher now lol
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boom boom boom posted:Oh poo poo, Rhodesia is Zimbabwe? Lol. Mugabe solved all the problems
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steinrokkan posted:gently caress Kagame hey compared to all the other african dictators hes the closest to not being lovely i guess Frostwerks posted:do u got a link to the truckers thing it makes sense from an epidemiology standpoint but ive never heard it before http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/research-recommends-how-to-tackle-spread-of-hivaids-by-african-truckers
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www posted:kenya believe it
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zimbabwe is a dumb name, rhodesia sounds way better
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Bro Dad posted:hey compared to all the other african dictators hes the closest to not being lovely i guess Rwanda would be much better off without him nowadays, he's destroyed dozens of NGOs aiming to deal with the genocide history, jailed many independent journalists etc. He's only been successful because he's been masterful in using Western guilt to secure investments and aid at discount rates. However, as time passes, this skill becomes less relevant, and nowadays his authoritarian attitude to history is becoming a source of ethnic tension rather than a healing power. Basically, his refusal to investigate the genocidal period objectively is leading to a growing conflict between the Hutu and Tutsi, combined with inequal redistribution of wealth.
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my favourite part of rhodesia is how the government refused to allow archaeologists any meaningful access to the historical sites there, including the bigass ancient fortress city from which zimbabwe takes its name, because the idea that the local savages had built anything of note before the white man came and fixed everything was really scary
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Bro Dad posted:hey compared to all the other african dictators hes the closest to not being lovely i guess Idea to get baby boomers out of mid level jobs and blocking younger people froma dvancing for decades: Give them all AIDS, it seems to keep the African trucking industry competitive
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notZaar posted:Yes but with the caveat that it is a honeypot forum that will lead to a permaban of every unironic leftist on the forums. thank god you'll be safe, you're obviously an unideological moderate, like me
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Sep 11, 2015 00:51
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Gazpacho posted:look upon your works, ye whiteys, and despair
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namibia gifted us the best youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gER7xe11nz8
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Kagame is a stone-cold killer who literally sends assassins abroad to kill his critics.
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Emanuel Collective posted:namibia gifted us the best youtube Namibia was literally a colony of South Africa from World War I to 1990 but even less people cared about it than Rhodesia
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XMNN posted:i think he has a theory other than the innate savagery of the black man and id like to hear it because i want to know what we can do to help Oh! I want to try! Africans historically aren't as good at war and domination as other people, so they never create the sort of empires and dynasties that allow a structure for advancement. Shaka Zulu did a fine job in his time, but he was so far behind Europe that he couldn't hold it down. Civilization isn't made by subsistence farmers and happy people working together. It's also not made by kings and presidents for life who are happy to build palaces and live in them. The sort of civilization we know is the direct result of the madness of prophets and emperors, monsters forcing the world into a new shape. It's not the presence of savagery or greed, it's the limit which is the problem.
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seems like it was better as a colony
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Frog Act posted:these shorts really match my FN FAL looks like he was called into service in the middle of portraying robin hood in a pantomime
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Uncle Wemus posted:seems like it was better as a colony
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Laughable Xhosa Girl - A Retrospective
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lmbo remember before we convinced ourselves that trying to civilise the world was wrong to excuse us from having to do anything difficult ever again? good job, civilisation
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Gazpacho posted:pick your reason -Has such an unambiguously depressing present day situation that it kinda makes everyone except for Ian Smith look bad. Mugabe has guaranteed that history is going to be a lot more sentimental towards white-minority rule than it should be. my effigy burns fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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