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I can't tell if I'm horribly over leveled or if this game just gets extremely easy far earlier than I thought it would, I just beat the boss after getting the sensor in 2 turns. Level 36 and a +8 charged poison claw did roughly 800 damage with 2 rakunda stacks.
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Einwand posted:I can't tell if I'm horribly over leveled or if this game just gets extremely easy far earlier than I thought it would, I just beat the boss after getting the sensor in 2 turns. Level 36 and a +8 charged poison claw did roughly 800 damage with 2 rakunda stacks. Yeah I'm a bit after that, level 37 or 38 and it's very easy at the moment. I blame Fusion Booster mostly but I hope the difficulty ramps up a bit.
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Sep 24, 2016 18:19
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Is it just me, or are recommended fusions usually completely awful? Mido's recommending a bunch of fusions that don't take advantage of affinities and stats, and it always uses the demons that are most useful to me. What exactly makes a particular fusion "recommended"? And am I missing out on anything by ignoring it?
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Sep 24, 2016 18:44
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Yeah I'm a bit after that, level 37 or 38 and it's very easy at the moment. I blame Fusion Booster mostly but I hope the difficulty ramps up a bit. Towards the middleish part of the game it does a bit. You start to get a lot of boss rushes, and the last few bosses can wreck you at level 99 if you don't know what you're doing. (on War difficulty at least) Some of the postgame content can get really punishing too.
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Sep 24, 2016 18:46
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i hate hordes
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Sep 24, 2016 20:32
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I love hordes, they're like giant piles of EXP just waiting to get Hama/Mudo to the face.
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Sep 24, 2016 21:09
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Unless they're Tengu hordes and then they can go gently caress themselves. Had to claw my way back from one demon left once thanks to those bastards.
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Sep 24, 2016 21:34
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Just finished the well, and I'm super-tickled at how I basically got lucky and fused a Hathor before walking into that boss. My magic build continues to be incredible, once I figure out what element my enemies are weak to. I love all of the little changes in this game - it's a great step up from SMTIV in a whole lot of ways, but the single best change in my opinion are the modifications done to the hama/mudo skills. They're now decent damage dealers in their own right with a chance of insta-kills, instead of skills that are useless unless you're facing a demon who is weak to them. (Yet useful for the enemies, as they can one-shot you if you're unlucky.) Also, shout-out to the "demon will join you after three tries" thing, that's the best change. I'm really bad at talking to Mermaids and Apsaras....
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Sep 25, 2016 01:24
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Yeah, I'm really impressed with the light/dark changes.
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Sep 25, 2016 01:40
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Persona 5 also has a similar thing except they just gave Light and Dark actual attack spells in addition to the insta-kills. The franchise as a whole seems to be moving away from Hama/Mudo being only instant-death which I like a lot.
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Sep 25, 2016 01:42
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Man, you are as cool as you are fat!
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cenotaph posted:Yeah, I'm really impressed with the light/dark changes. My MC I built as a strictly Light/Dark guy and it worked really well, it's a great change. Some of the best spells now are Light or Dark. The first DLC demon has a Light spell so overpowered that until it got nerfed in a patch it could one-shot any boss in the game, including the final boss.
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Sep 25, 2016 02:55
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where do i go after initially fighting shesha? all my quests are completed and im not sure what to do
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Sep 25, 2016 03:00
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nevermind i remembered the mapper exists
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Cake Attack posted:nevermind i remembered the mapper exists I know right?! The map is actually functional!
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Anyone complaining it got too easy - stop fusion boostering. I realized that was clearly wrecking the curve for me personally and it's ridiculous how high you can take it. I was getting to areas then realizing I not only had all the demons in that area already, I had already fused them into something stronger. Meanwhile I've been leveling DEX and STR equally and can't tell if this is a bad idea StrixNebulosa posted:I love all of the little changes in this game - it's a great step up from SMTIV in a whole lot of ways, but the single best change in my opinion are the modifications done to the hama/mudo skills. They're now decent damage dealers in their own right with a chance of insta-kills, instead of skills that are useless unless you're facing a demon who is weak to them. (Yet useful for the enemies, as they can one-shot you if you're unlucky.) Yeah I had a Principality with the light boost passive just wrecking random encounters with Mahama. Even if nothing is weak it just does good damage. I was actually a bit bummed when I let it evolve to Power and suddenly he had a lot less MP and magic
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Anyone complaining it got too easy - stop fusion boostering. I realized that was clearly wrecking the curve for me personally and it's ridiculous how high you can take it. I was getting to areas then realizing I not only had all the demons in that area already, I had already fused them into something stronger. I haven't touched Fusion boosting - I just tend to overlevel a bit because I like to fuse my guys only when they have all of their skills, which means running around to level 'em a bit so I can fuse and thus get room in my stock to recruit more guys.... (I've been expanding my stock instead with my app points.)
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Q: does anyone bother with any demons that have mixed stats or really anything other than super high magic? Is there a point except in v specific circumstances
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Q: does anyone bother with any demons that have mixed stats or really anything other than super high magic? Is there a point except in v specific circumstances If they have good Resists or Null anything I can sit them on the front lines with healing skills and play medic.
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Sep 25, 2016 12:38
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It's a little ludicrous how many levels you need to raise Leanan Sidhe to get her final skill, which is just Media.
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Sep 25, 2016 16:43
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I'm disappointed that the challenge quest α and β tracks are not present.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Q: does anyone bother with any demons that have mixed stats or really anything other than super high magic? Is there a point except in v specific circumstances I just use whatever I can fuse at any given time, I just make sure to keep at least one high MP demon with Media/rama and one of the two essential buffs (defense or hit/evade).
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Ok I legitimately said "yeah!" Out loud when they brought back the boss music with the weird steel drums
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Where do you get the black card in Ginza? nevermind figured that part out. SylvainMustach fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Sep 25, 2016 |
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Sep 25, 2016 18:11
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SylvainMustach posted:Where do you get the black card in Ginza? IIRC it's a reward for completing a side quest. I don't remember which one exactly but it explicitly tells you that the Black Card is the reward in the quest description.
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The Jade dagger walls and "you're trapped! repeatedly press X to escape!" things are terrible additions to the game, tbh. I appreciate them trying to find a way to make the reused dungeons feel different, but constantly having to backtrack to go power the dagger up is just busywork, and the traps are just time wasters.
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The dagger is ok, I have seen worse gimmicks and they occasionally have some mildly interesting puzzles with it. The traps are inexcusable though, who the gently caress thought randomly having to mash attack was an engaging gameplay mechanic?
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Sep 25, 2016 20:04
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I wish the characters in this were older than 14-15. The deviant Japanese have filled the game with weird sex stuff. Mara said he was going to jizz in and around me and make me hot and sticky, and the 14-year-old girl just touched a magic lust jar that made her cum.
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Hey Genpei, can we suggest fanart for the OP and such? Because this bad boy of a game just started scratching an itch I thought long gone, and badass pictures need to follow:
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I wish the characters in this were older than 14-15. The deviant Japanese have filled the game with weird sex stuff. Mara said he was going to jizz in and around me and make me hot and sticky, and the 14-year-old girl just touched a magic lust jar that made her cum. I would have thought this was all completely serious until I read the "jizz" part. I can see the rest of that happening.
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What would have happened if I refused to open the Ark? Either at the start of the quest or the end.
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Deified Data posted:What would have happened if I refused to open the Ark? Either at the start of the quest or the end. Dagda goes "Lol, nope" and hijacks your body to do it.
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Tallgeese posted:I would have thought this was all completely serious until I read the "jizz" part. I can see the rest of that happening.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:for once I'm 100% serious. Mara has gone full-on (hurhur) "ha ha im a penis" in this game, which is otherwise fantastic but THIS game?  
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Sep 25, 2016 22:32
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oh yeah I forgot about beating off this magnificent schlong. never mind
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:for once I'm 100% serious. Mara has gone full-on (hurhur) "ha ha im a penis" in this game, which is otherwise fantastic but Surely he didn't actually use the word jizz though, right? I mean come on, at least make it a double entendre! Well, at least Raidou 2's version had some penetrating humor.
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Wark Say posted:Hey Genpei, can we suggest fanart for the OP and such? Because this bad boy of a game just started scratching an itch I thought long gone, and badass pictures need to follow: Yeah, sure, the second post is for anything goons think are worth posting for the whole thread. Also, though I missed the discussion earlier, I thought it might be worth mentioning since some people were relying on Fusion Booster---Fusion Booster is kind of a trap and long-term is a waste of your Application Points. You stop getting AP once you hit level 99, AP-granting items are very rare unless you abuse DLC, and getting Fusion Booster up to a level where it makes a notable difference is expensive. Once you hit the upper levels Fusion Booster loses its utility and all the points you put into it instead of something else have gone to waste. The better applications that are level-gated are pretty expensive too (it takes 240 AP to get party MP regeneration, 360 AP to unlock all your MC and demons' skill slots, 150 AP to reduce Compendium prices etc) so any points you waste in Fusion Booster are points that could have gone to something that would have remained consistently useful. It makes things easier for yourself in the short term, but in exchange for potentially handicapping yourself in the long term. I'd advise against getting it unless you plan to abuse the DLC. Genpei Turtle fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Sep 25, 2016 |
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I've just been going for MP Regen, skill slots and I dropped 20 AP into the "make demon negotiations more friendly" which was completely worth it because it cuts massively down on the time you spend negotiating.
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ImpAtom posted:I've just been going for MP Regen, skill slots and I dropped 20 AP into the "make demon negotiations more friendly" which was completely worth it because it cuts massively down on the time you spend negotiating. Yeah the 20-AP negotiation app is a must-buy. The MP regen is good but it's way more expensive to max than it was in SMTIV. The apps are trickier this time around because all of the good ones are much more expensive. Each additional skill slot costs more in SMTIV:A whereas in IV it was just a flat 30 per I think. You have to be more careful in general where to put your AP in IV:A.
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Getting the fusion boosters and frequently fusing higher level demons also means you're probably getting demon whispers less often, so your MC skills don't fill out as quickly. I'm taking them anyway, because I'm having a good time playing this differently from SMT4, but I'll probably grab the AP DLC later. For now, I'm at level 29 with fusion booster 5, and my team of level 36-38 demons feels ridiculous.
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