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butterbar
Dec 14, 2016
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Most modern cars these days are pretty reliable

The only exception is Fiat and Chrysler, who are laughably terrible in pretty much any study of reliability

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Aug 13, 2008

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butterbar posted:

Most modern cars these days are pretty reliable

The only exception is Fiat and Chrysler, who are laughably terrible in pretty much any study of reliability

they are not the only exception. gm's turbo 1.5 might actually be the worst engine that has ever been produced.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
my dad taught me to drive by taking me out onto some back roads in his 92 F-150

i'm really not a truck guy by any means, but that was a fun. that was 15 years ago and my cousin has it, and still drives it.

when he's finally done with it, i hope the truck works its way to a third-world war zone somewhere so it can get blown up by a russian attack helicopter.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

tenspott posted:

I love car threads because it's like no one in GBS has driven a car newer than a 91 and they base all their knowledge off of something a dude at NAPA told them once.

I love them because you know the people saying all American cars are poo poo own something like a 1999 Corolla.

Rudeboy Detective
Apr 28, 2011


Bum the Sad posted:

Bullshit my Cadillac's Northstar V8 was leaking oil like a sieve and had to have all the gaskets replaced.

It also had the starter motor between the cylinder banks and was poorly built.

The Northstar was GM's attempt to make a V8 using fancy "modern" ideas like overhead cams. The LT/LS V8s use technology that GM has had almost 100 years to unfuck.

(Something something pushrod has a good displacement vs. external volume ratio whatever)

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
someone name a good american car plz

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
model t

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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Wikkheiser posted:

someone name a good american car plz

Toyota Corolla

Rudeboy Detective
Apr 28, 2011


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penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald
man you bought an srt8 lol im sorry dude there were SO MANY BETTER CHOICES ALL AROUND THAT PRICE POINT WOW

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Wikkheiser posted:

someone name a good american car plz

Tesla :colbert:

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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scrubs season six posted:

I love them because you know the people saying all American cars are poo poo own something like a 1999 Corolla.

so what you're saying is that people who drive a car that has a reputation for being bulletproof and lasting forever make fun of american cars for being the poorly-constructed, unreliable shitboxes they are?

is this supposed to be some kind of sick burn you're making or something

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

Wikkheiser posted:

someone name a good american car plz

Sir, this is a Honda dealership.

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Cubey posted:

:laffo: what

the cavalier is the definition of a disposable shitbox that isn't meant to last and never does

one of the cars i learned to drive on was its sister car, the sunbird, and in addition to everything about the fit and finish of the thing just being so slapdash as to be comical, it blew the engine at 110k miles. the only thing i can say in its favor was that it actually was less awful to drive than the ford tempo i also was learning on; to date that fuckin tempo was the most miserable vehicle i have ever driven from any manufacturer.

actually, thinking back, the third car i learned to drive on was my grandma's chrysler le baron, which was significantly less poo poo than the other two in every way. point to chrysler i guess, except the part where its transmission seized on her at 150k in the middle of an intersection.

as far as gms that last, if it does not have an ls or a 3800, it does not last. every other engine they have made is various levels of poo poo.

im not defending gm but i see as many sunbirds and cavalliers on the road as i do old hondas from the same era but they are in no way in fair or even bad condition. they are barely functional and screech and belch oil smoke but they are on the road

i do live in a poor rear end area where people could and probably would get jimbo to swap the blown motor for another motor on its last legs. ozark ingenuity

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Wikkheiser posted:

my dad taught me to drive by taking me out onto some back roads in his 92 F-150

i'm really not a truck guy by any means, but that was a fun. that was 15 years ago and my cousin has it, and still drives it.

when he's finally done with it, i hope the truck works its way to a third-world war zone somewhere so it can get blown up by a russian attack helicopter.

my dad taught me to drive stick on a base model mini cooper

hands down without question the worst vehicle i have ever driven in every way

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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People seem to equate reliability with "will technically continue to run and drive" but if the rest of the car falls apart around the drivetrain is it really that reliable? "Hmm yes my 01' Sunfire is very reliable! The windows don't roll up, the interior is in pieces, the A/C quit working sometime around 9/11, but it still hesitantly lurches forward when I step on the gas."

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Kibbles n Shits posted:

People seem to equate reliability with "will technically continue to run and drive" but if the rest of the car falls apart around the drivetrain is it really that reliable?

this is basically the argument people use to tell me gm is reliable because i live in the american heartland and USA USA but thats what im sayin

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Cubey posted:

so what you're saying is that people who drive a car that has a reputation for being bulletproof and lasting forever make fun of american cars for being the poorly-constructed, unreliable shitboxes they are?

is this supposed to be some kind of sick burn you're making or something

I'm saying you poor.

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user
I had a 91 Cavalier when I was driving under my Learner's Permit. The body was immaculate metallic teal and literally hours after it reached 100,000 miles, it burst into flames.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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scrubs season six posted:

I'm saying you poor.

well i drive a second-gen mr2, for one.

for two, poor people need transport and if i was hard up for money, you bet your rear end that i'd buy a corolla before even considering a neon or cavalier or whatever.

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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Some people actually don't buy the most expensive car available to them. Mind blowing but true.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

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Kibbles n Shits posted:

Some people actually don't buy the most expensive car available to them. Mind blowing but true.
I HAVE EXACTLY $3987.23 PLUS $1500 OVERDRAFT LIMIT IN MY CHECKING ACCOUNT GIVE ME CAR SUGGESTIONS.

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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numberoneposter posted:

I HAVE EXACTLY $3987.23 PLUS $1500 OVERDRAFT LIMIT IN MY CHECKING ACCOUNT GIVE ME CAR SUGGESTIONS.

99' Toyota Corolla

butterbar
Dec 14, 2016
If I'm posting while Quick Draw McGraw is on probation report me for my permaban!

numberoneposter posted:

I HAVE EXACTLY $3987.23 PLUS $1500 OVERDRAFT LIMIT IN MY CHECKING ACCOUNT GIVE ME CAR SUGGESTIONS.

The new Cadillac service where it's $1500 a month to drive and keep any Cadillac

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
is hellcat good or no

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
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thathonkey posted:

is hellcat good or no

The porn? :shrug:

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
nah like the challenger srt hellcat




looks pretty dope on the outside i gotta admit i bet it's fast too but will break down and has a crap interior

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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thathonkey posted:

is hellcat good or no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNgb_BUsOs4

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i actually have a fairly reasonable savings for my age and location, but the reason i have it is because i don't make poor decisions like buying too much car.

Riscas
Feb 11, 2008
I dunno guys, I had a 2016 Dodge Dart as a rental earlier this year and it was actually pretty nice if a bit cramped due to my height.

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Apr 8, 2006

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Riscas posted:

I dunno guys, I had a 2016 Dodge Dart as a rental earlier this year and it was actually pretty nice if a bit cramped due to my height.

Isn't the Dart essentially a rebadged Alfa Romeo?

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

thathonkey posted:

nah like the challenger srt hellcat




looks pretty dope on the outside i gotta admit i bet it's fast too but will break down and has a crap interior

I can think of zero reason you wouldn't be better off with just a chevy SS.

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
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thathonkey posted:

nah like the challenger srt hellcat




looks pretty dope on the outside i gotta admit i bet it's fast too but will break down and has a crap interior

Hmmm it's a little batmobile tbh but I bet that kitty purrs.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

Hmmm it's a little batmobile tbh but I bet that kitty purrs.
only if u rub it the rite way bb

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
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numberoneposter posted:

only if u rub it the rite way bb

You know I'd treat her right. :mmmsmug:

Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
if you buy an american car then wow..just lmao

TheShazbot
Feb 20, 2011

Wikkheiser posted:

someone name a good american car plz

Ford Crown Victoria

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Salt Fish posted:

I can think of zero reason you wouldn't be better off with just a chevy SS.

I can think of 292 reasons you wouldn't be better off with just a Chevy SS.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

My Man Shran posted:

It also had the starter motor between the cylinder banks and was poorly built.

The Northstar was GM's attempt to make a V8 using fancy "modern" ideas like overhead cams. The LT/LS V8s use technology that GM has had almost 100 years to unfuck.

(Something something pushrod has a good displacement vs. external volume ratio whatever)

The only really bad problem with the Northie is the oil leak issue between the upper and lower block and they fixed that by ~1999 or so. Other than that, they were very solid engines, built by GM's Premium engine division and ran well. They can start to pull the head studs slightly out of the block and lose head gaskets at high mileage(150-180kmiles), but that's about the extent of any issues. GM did a great job overdesigning the valvetrain and timing chain setup, issues with the top end are extremely rare.

Every fuckin' online idiot likes to whine about the starter location, but they really don't take a tremendous amount of time to change, don't go bad very often, and guess what other motor has the starter in the same exact spot? The Toyoxus 4.0/4.5 V-8, and nobody bitches about that one.

The main hassle with 'em is, like you said, that they're goddamn enormous and were never updated much. They came out in '91 and ran great compared to the existing SBC, but after the much tinier/more powerful LSx arrived, the handwriting was on the wall.

Source: I'm a mechanic and serviced about a zillion old people's Caddys, plus owned a couple over the years.

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nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Wikkheiser posted:

someone name a good american car plz

mustangs

ford rangers

crown vic

huh i guess thats all ford. their cars are mostly Really Bad though. basically the ones where they kept making the same model for a long rear end time and thats 'good' not Good

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