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Helen Highwater posted:All that is pretty irrelevant though, as there is no parliament building for the new government to meet in and make those votes. The old parliament building was reabsorbed in the royal household after the last coup, and the replacement building isn't ready for another year.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47702524 thaksin is basically accusing the military of rigging the election
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# ? Mar 26, 2019 08:16 |
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He's not wrong. Before the election, the country was redistricted. Originally there were 400 constituency seats, after the redistricting, there were 350. These were supposed to be redrawn according to non-partisan criteria but the junta invoked article 44 of the constitution (which basically says that the junta can invoke privilege to do anything it wants and that this is 'lawful, constitutional, and final') to tell the electoral commission to ignore those rules and redistrict however they liked - which miraculously happened to benefit the Palang Pracharat Party. In addition there were many, many instances of outright corruption, official vote tampering and other problems. quote:In a statement released yesterday, the People Network for Elections in Thailand (P-Net) said vote-buying was prevalent in many areas of the country, especially the North, Northeast and Central regions. This apparently happened a few nights before the ballot.
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# ? Mar 26, 2019 10:40 |
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thaksin made the times https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/opinion/thaksin-shinawatra-the-election-in-thailand-was-rigged.html quote:Thaksin Shinawatra: The Election in Thailand Was Rigged my guess is hes going to try and push a revival of red shirt protests if the pro-junta parties manage to form a coalition im surprised how directly vocal he is being about this as well. hes been pretty hands off for a long time. Sheng-Ji Yang has issued a correction as of 01:09 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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is there anything bad about thanathorn aside from that he’s rich? because he seems p awesome to me in comparison to all the other jokers also thaksin is corrupt just like huey long was corrupt, doesn’t mean his policies are wrong. hell he pushed through UHC which is more than you can say for any American politician
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 03:20 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 03:39 |
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Gail Wynand posted:is there anything bad about thanathorn aside from that hes rich? because he seems p awesome to me in comparison to all the other jokers he is a billionaire heir yeah, so a good reason to be skeptical. but hes probably vastly better than all alternatives, including thaksin. and it turns out pheu thai and the anti-junta parties are claiming to have enough seats to form a coalition https://www.pattayamail.com/thailandnews/pheu-thai-and-allies-say-they-have-seats-to-form-govt-250468 quote:Bangkok – The Pheu Thai Party has announced its intention to form a coalition government with six other parties while confirming that the New Economics Party will join despite its absence at a press conference. this will be interesting. thaksins back baby
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 03:54 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:this will be interesting. thaksins back baby Thaksin 2: Electric whoops-a-coup
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 09:16 |
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https://twitter.com/vaitor/status/1111183829127954433 https://twitter.com/pakhead/status/1111313718678188032 lol
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 09:24 |
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new coup when? what do the junta actually do when running the country just enrich themselves through corruption?
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 09:33 |
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Jose posted:new coup when? what do the junta actually do when running the country just enrich themselves through corruption? but the military is already in control
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 09:40 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:he is a billionaire heir yeah, so a good reason to be skeptical. but hes probably vastly better than all alternatives, including thaksin.
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# ? Mar 30, 2019 04:03 |
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/thai-king-strips-pm-thakin-shinawatra-royal-decorations-190330155200645.htmlquote:Thailand's King Maha Vajiralongkorn has revoked royal decorations awarded to deposed former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, citing his corruption conviction and "extremely inappropriate" flight from the country. this is a nod by the king giving sanction to another coup if pheu thai gets the next gov and/or sanction to rigging the results that still arent actually announced yet
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# ? Apr 1, 2019 22:59 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/zenjournalist/status/1118141785937731585
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# ? Apr 17, 2019 14:07 |
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thai revanchist still really, really hate the french for stealing cambodia and laos from them. anyways, in political news, the junta has charged thanathorn with sedition under absurd charges, along with other opposition politicians. who actually won the election is still not clear as full results have not been made known still lmao (it was definitely the opposition). i think each of these actions are probably tests to see how far the junta can push to ignore the results without sparking protests. the reason why theyre going after thanathorn is that Thaksin & co still probably has a lot of connection to red shirts and could start up poo poo again if he really wanted to.
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# ? Apr 21, 2019 20:27 |
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https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1120639004104282113 theyre really trying to get him before releasing results
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# ? Apr 24, 2019 06:26 |
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https://twitter.com/zenjournalist/status/1121046164470677504 https://twitter.com/zenjournalist/status/1121309169284538368 monarchy owns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN-syJv2jC0 Sheng-Ji Yang has issued a correction as of 08:17 on Apr 25, 2019 |
# ? Apr 25, 2019 08:07 |
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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1123890143369232386
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# ? May 2, 2019 14:42 |
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What's going on with that wedding ceremony lol. Can she even refuse to marry him?
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# ? May 2, 2019 15:17 |
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Jose posted:What's going on with that wedding ceremony lol. Can she even refuse to marry him? When he divorced a previous wife, she wasn't allowed to mount a defence at the divorce trial because saying bad things about the king was illegal, even as a legal defence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajiralongkorn#Personal_life
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# ? May 2, 2019 15:38 |
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The results are in! The pro military parties won according to the EC but you can't see the actual numbers or the way that the proportional votes were allocated. Pheu Thai originally claimed victory because their coalition looked to have 255 seats in the lower house (250 are needed for a majority) but, after the EC checked, it appears that they only had 245. That means the pro-military Palang Phatcharat party (which came second in total seats), can scrape together a 20 party coalition to govern. It also means that the current prime minister is almost certain to be re-elected. He needs 376 votes across both chambers, and the military picks all of the 250 senators in the upper house. He needs to find just 11 more votes from allied parties to be confirmed.
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# ? May 9, 2019 07:51 |
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Helen Highwater posted:The results are in! The pro military parties won according to the EC but you can't see the actual numbers or the way that the proportional votes were allocated. Well it's now or never with protests
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# ? May 9, 2019 08:45 |
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quote:20 party coalition
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# ? May 9, 2019 10:12 |
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A lot of those 20 parties are basically rebranded Palang Phatcharat organisations specifically founded to take advantage of the way the EC allocated proportional seats. The Thaksin aligned parties did much the same thing - although in their case it was insurance against having some of their parties banned from politics by the constitutional court rather than to game the elctoral system. So of the 20 parties, there are maybe 5 main factions - who are all more or less aligned anyway.
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# ? May 9, 2019 11:08 |
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What are the junta getting out of running thailand are they just making themselves insanely rich? Would a real government lock them all up?
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# ? May 9, 2019 11:09 |
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Jose posted:What are the junta getting out of running thailand are they just making themselves insanely rich? Would a real government lock them all up? Mostly protecting the old elites and rich from mild populist redistribution via thaksinism. Also protecting their own rackets and corruption, yeah. I think if the opposition suddenly took power, it would depend on how secure that were if they moved against the junta, or were even capable of rooting then out of the military.
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# ? May 9, 2019 13:42 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:Mostly protecting the old elites and rich from mild populist redistribution via thaksinism. Also protecting their own rackets and corruption, yeah. I'm not even sure that it would be possible to move against the junta if the opposition won. Even assuming that there wasn't an immediate coup (lol, there would be one in seconds), most of the power structures are appointed directly by the King and not by the PM. The Constitutional Court would make Mitch McConnell look like a bipartisan compromiser if they had to deal with another pro-Thaksin government.
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# ? May 9, 2019 14:19 |
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What could unfuck Thailand? I assume the military has the backing and the blessing of the us?
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# ? May 9, 2019 14:46 |
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mila kunis posted:What could unfuck Thailand? I assume the military has the backing and the blessing of the us? large scale popular unrest is probably it. the red shirt protests in 2010 managed to force the 2006-2011 junta to hold elections and let thaksins party win and govern for a few years. that there hasnt really been any major protests since 2014 is the main reason theyre not afraid to steal the election. basically its up to the opposition to put up or shut up now, and flood the streets. edit: if you mean permanently unfuck thailand, the popular unrest would need to be large enough to scare the military into not doing another coup, and the new government would need to do what basically Erdogan has done to the Turkish military - purge out the entire old guard and replace them with lackeys. easier said than done. Sheng-Ji Yang has issued a correction as of 15:03 on May 9, 2019 |
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mila kunis posted:What could unfuck Thailand? I assume the military has the backing and the blessing of the us?
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# ? May 9, 2019 15:02 |
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mila kunis posted:What could unfuck Thailand? I assume the military has the backing and the blessing of the us? The military can’t postpone their reckoning forever, a clear majority of people oppose them and Thailand isn’t China or North Korea. Eventually tensions will boil over and Thailand will be lucky if it avoids a civil war. Soy Division has issued a correction as of 15:09 on May 9, 2019 |
# ? May 9, 2019 15:06 |
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mila kunis posted:What could unfuck Thailand? I assume the military has the backing and the blessing of the us? Thailand is in a really weird spot geopolitically. Normally no one outside the region would have ever given a gently caress about it as it was just another, mostly agrarian, developing nation. It's one of the few nations in this area that doesn't have a European colonial past - which tells you all you need to know about how many strategically important natural resources it has. Pretty much the only valuable things that natively grow here are rubber and silk - and they grow everywhere else around here too. However, post-WWII, there was a rash of SE Asian countries deciding to be all communist and/or throw off the shackles of imperialist occupiers. Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam all went communist, Malaysia threw out the British, then tried to go communist twice, Myanmar kicked out the British and then went through a sequence of civil wars and military dictatorships. Thailand was the only sizable nation in the region that was relatively stable and not communist so the CIA threw a gently caress ton of effort into propping it up. The last king, Rama IX, was king for all of that and he was basically a CIA asset. He died in 2016 after being in power for 70 years which is the kind of stability that the US really liked.
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# ? May 9, 2019 16:13 |
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Yeah basically the entire cult built around bhumibol was engineered by the CIA to counter communism in the 60s and 70s - there was at one point a very serious communist insurgency in the north. Before that the monarchy was much closer to a normal constitutional monarchy.
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# ? May 11, 2019 13:43 |
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https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1136304192279130112 congrats prayuth you have won the game of thrones!!
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# ? Jun 5, 2019 17:11 |
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https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1156098694137016320?s=19 bump because lmao vajiralongkorn is bringing back consorts (ie old school polygamy)
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# ? Jul 30, 2019 10:55 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:Yeah basically the entire cult built around bhumibol was engineered by the CIA to counter communism in the 60s and 70s - there was at one point a very serious communist insurgency in the north. Before that the monarchy was much closer to a normal constitutional monarchy. is there anything the cia doesnt turn into poo poo
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# ? Jul 30, 2019 11:21 |
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Kurtofan posted:is there anything the cia doesnt turn into poo poo the most notorious black site during the bush admin was in thailand, ran by gina haspel its now a tourist attraction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6kGhPrz06g
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# ? Aug 1, 2019 16:19 |
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it would own if Thailand overthrew their monarchy like Nepal did a couple years ago edit: would also own if the royals just started killing each other, also as in Nepal
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:it would own if Thailand overthrew their monarchy like Nepal did a couple years ago bhumibol already shot and killed his brother/king and he ended up reigning for 70 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananda_Mahidol#Death
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