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Fleshwit posted:I've always felt uhh... the completely amateur stuff tends to be a bit underrepresented on LP. Niche games made by professionals? Indie studios/devs? Sure, you'll find plenty of LPs of those. Sometimes even multiple for the same game.. But rank amateurs fumbling around at making their crap? LP's of such peoples games are not unheard of, of course, but they tend to be of the funny bad/weird stuff. The thing is though, there's tons of good stuff out there that definitely deserves showing off, that hardly anyone has heard of unless you're a part of some very specific community, like the RPGMaker community, or a modding community for specific games (DOOM wads, Thief Fanmissions, X-Piratez, The XCOM Files and stuff like that comes to mind). And RPGMaker 2k/2k3 games tend to be even more amateur than most, since you didn't even need to know how to program to use those. The LP Archive doesn't have information on which games are RPGMaker, but off the top of my head there are completed LPs of Space Funeral, OFF and A Blurred Line
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who else remembers THE DEMON RUSH? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2913491&pagenumber=1&perpage=40
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ultrafilter posted:The LP Archive doesn't have information on which games are RPGMaker, but off the top of my head there are completed LPs of Space Funeral, OFF and A Blurred Line It's good to see there's A Blurred Line LP. It's actually pleasant surprise. I'm -not- surprised that there's Space Funeral and OFF LP's though, haha. If I actually finish The Way, and do another LP it looks like it might wind up being Master of the Wind, my other favourite RPGMaker series. Or maybe I'll go for the bottomless barrel of unintentional laughs that the Laxius saga would provide. I swear I've never laughed so much at a single game as I have Laxius Power 1, never mind all seven current games.
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I really liked playing Last Scenario, and was comparing The Way to it from your LP. It was a much more polished game for certain, but also less ambitious. The sheer number of crazy game mechanics and stats in this is bonkers. It’s like something out of Dwarf Fortress. I don’t think I could enjoy playing it but the lp is fun.
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:who else remembers THE DEMON RUSH? Ahhh I haven't thought of this mess in ages. Though... I should admit I unironically like the name Brooks Cracktackle. Definitely the kind of name I'd use. Cherry Venus is completely beyond help though. edit: Looks like all the images for that thread are gone now though, and for even the actual LP of the game that got done. Darn. Fleshwit fucked around with this message at 04:50 on May 16, 2019 |
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Alright. I'm pretty hyped to do the next couple updates quickly but lets do something I've wanted to do for a while now first. A refresher on some names and oddities about Rhue and his memories. As we saw in the latest update Rosmar explicitly confirmed that he isn't Lyrra's brother. Something most of you probably suspected due to the uhh... strange flashback Rhue had to the night of the Landorin Massacre where he was looking for Lyrra and Jeruh, and not say, Lyrra and Rosmar. Jed said Lyrra's brother is dead. So we're to assume he died on that night, a very long time ago. Probably like a decade ago, maybe even more. We're never given Lyrra or Rhue's age at present or at the time of the massacre. Except, isn't that kind of strange? The name Jeruh's come up a couple times before we saw that flashback. The first time was the headhunter in Episode 1, who attacked Rhue and co, suspecting they knew something about a Jeruh (or even that Rhue was Jeruh, it's implied.) The second time was the much friendlier headhunter on Marna Stretch, who seemed to know Rhue and that he had long been searching for someone. Except instead of Serena, he asked if he'd found Jeruh yet. He even said they last spoke only a couple weeks ago. And then as he said his goodbyes, he called Rhue 'Midian'. A name that's not since come up. And then there's the thing with both Scatha and Gaius. Scatha reacted strongly to the name of Serena and seemed very interested in knowing her location. Later, she mused that Rhue was still alive (as in, she'd long thought him dead), but that his name was odd. And Gaius wondered why Rhue didn't seem to remember him or the man they killed together (though he says Rhue deserves most of the credit for the kill). He also thought that the name Rhue belonged to someone else instead. He even said Rhue's aura seems muddled and now that you know what an aura is... you have an idea of what that could mean. Add to all that the fact Rhue seems to absorb aura's rather unnaturally, dreamed one of Jed's memories, and has a great antipathy towards mirrors and its sort of obvious what's going on with Rhue. The important questions are... how and why? And who the hell are Midian, Jeruh and... potentially, a real, seperate Rhue? And how are they related? Fleshwit fucked around with this message at 06:08 on May 17, 2019 |
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I'm enjoying this LP but the way people come and go in this game, it's not easy for me to keep track of characters. Like I don't even know who Rosmar and Lyrra are anymore?? Would it be too much to ask for a roundup of notable characters we've met? No problem if that's too much for you to want to bother with.
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GunnerJ posted:I'm enjoying this LP but the way people come and go in this game, it's not easy for me to keep track of characters. Like I don't even know who Rosmar and Lyrra are anymore?? Would it be too much to ask for a roundup of notable characters we've met? No problem if that's too much for you to want to bother with. Right, I'll think about doing a little summary then.
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 So we have our lead, Rhue. I've already done over the real odd stuff about him, but some more details can't hurt.For one: He's a short-sighted, impulsive, vindictive, easily annoyed/angered, self-centred rear end in a top hat and arguably psychotic. Also is extremely obsessed with finding his childhood love Serena. I feel I should also post a summary of his recounting of his memory of the Landorin Massacre here along with the details we know about that night besides that. So. Rhue's story of the massacre goes like this. Sometime not too long after he got Serena the pendant, she and the other children of the fists Rhues family travelled with decided to sneak out to play together late at night. Their play was interrupted by wolves or wolf-like monsters attacking and killing the children. Only Serena and Rhue managed to escape. As they fled, a storm started. Tiring, and pursued by wolves... Rhue decided to fight back when they reached a river bank. Serena was knocked into the river by a surprise attack. Rhue, distracted, was then pounced on by the wolves. He awoke some time later and immediately set off down The Way in search of Serena. Before long he came upon two men silently standing around. One gave Rhue his sword. They never said a word at all or even otherwise looked at him. Now the actual details we know from Traziun are that none of the childrens bodies were ever found. Just lots of blood. He also said there was only one known survivor and he never heard of falling into the river as being mentioned as part of their story. By now it's very very very very strongly implied that this survivor is Lyrra, to the point I'll just say it's a fact.  The ever lovable, badass, smart and handsome Strata was the first major character we met besides Rhue.He's just an rear end in a top hat that assaulted Rhue over a rabbit. Though he does complement his trash talk with a high level of skill. When he stopped by the Matalan Battle Grounds, he defeated all the rookie Blood Lyn with ease, and was so good the veterans refused to risk plunging him at all. He seems to have noticed how easy it is to gently caress with Rhue and is determined to do it at every opportunity. Strata was also responsible for saving Lyrra from the Blue Scarve Camp, and now the two seem to be a couple as Strata helps her search for her father. For his part, Strata DOES seem to care for her in his own way. He cared enough to ask why she looked so sad in one scene, anyway, and comforted her.  Slade first appeared saving Rhue from the first headhunter. We've since learned he's a Shadow Foot, an elite warrior of the Vigilance Council.He has some kind of... issue with hitting on women, as he flipped out nearly beat Alan to death over just that. He apparently has a great reputation, since Kygar fled rather than face him in battle. Later, he arrested Cetsa/Dancing Violet, refusing Rhue the chance to speak to her a moment, because he's an rear end in a top hat and they were right by a camp of Cetsa's minions. Also he didn't trust Rhue who'd lied to him repeatedly and might even turn on him depending on the answer to the question. That's my excuse anyway. Since then, we've seen him rebuff Patura's advances, so she denied him the chance to participate in the Grand Tournament on behalf of the Vigilance Council.  Traziun is basically our deuteragonist. He befriended and mentored Rhue with no ulterior motive other than finding Rhue interesting because of his attitude.He seems to seek to become a Forerunner and investigate the rumors of the End of the Way fast approaching. He also plans on killing his 'murderous father'. After they spoke about the two infamous Delhara Battle Grounds escapees, Kloe recalled she knew Traziun from... someplace she didn't explicitly state. But the context makes it sound like Traziun also trained at Delhara. Traziun himself implies this by knowing about Alagard, the famous escapee, but commenting on what Kloe calls 'the second lesser known escape that no one talks about' and saying that it happened well after his time there. Curious Note: He seemed to recall the name Gaius from somewhere when we first met Gaius. Also, -possibly- has ownership of the great treasure Scatha was after, which is -possibly- the Shadow Sword from Lide. The Blood Lyn want to kill Traziun at all costs. Like, he worried about the Blana Sera sensing him, which happened, and that was enough for them to forget about executing Kloe in their special ceremonial execution, they wanted Traziun so bad.  The ever mysterious Gaius is, debatably, our tritagonist.We don't know much if anything about him personally, but he seems to be working with Lady Velicia of the Guided in investigating Sacrifa's subfaction of the Guided. He and Rhue killed a guy together? And Rhue doesn't remember him or that anymore? He has some kind of connection with Kloe, as he's twice now gone out of his way to avoid her, even running away from her the second time, as she desperately chased him. HMMMM  Lyrra, Jed's daughter and the only known survivor of the Landorin Massacre (besides Rhue and Serena maybe?).She narrates her whole life like it's a childrens fairy tale, and was initially very taken with Rhue, as was made very obvious during the scene Rhue had to tell a story at the campfire at the end of Episode 1. However, after he left her in Cetsa's tent and she was saved by Strata instead, she's become obssessed with idealising Strata as her knight in shining armour. She's also very anxious to find her father.  Rosmar was an independent wanderer travelling with Jed and Lyrra's fist. He's not very important but Rhue did 'accidentally' cut his face open during a mock plunge, which he now bears the scar of, as you can see. He's a jerk and Rhue made the mistake of assuming he was Lyrra's dead brother Jed referred to. Jed, Lyrra's father. Not really important in himself, but Rhue absorbed his aura when he mercy-killed him, and later lived out his memory of the night of the Landorin Massacre, where he searched for Lyrra and Jeruh and found only a traumatised Lyrra.  In Lide Rhue met Cetsa, a beautiful woman who arranged a tournament so all the men could fight over her in a more civilised fashion... Only for her to ultimately reveal the whole thing is a scam, as Kygar usually is good enough to kick everyone's rear end so they can make a lot of cash. It's implied they've done this a lot of times.Her plans change though, when Foreman Ballar tells her about the Shadow Sword kept beneath Lide and she decides she wants it. She's foiled, and seems to have had run ins with Scatha before. She also turns out to be Dancing Violet of the infamous Blue Scarves. And she has the pendant Rhue gave to Serena, which catches Rhue's interest immediately. Finally, you -can- choose to make Serena's hair the same hair colour, which only intrigues Rhue further, but even if you don't, he considers it possible that she may be Serena dying her hair. She winds up getting arrested by Slade after Kygar betrays her. She's now awaiting her fate in the highest cell in The Arm of Estrana. She'd have been excuted without trial already by the Vigilance Council, if the Guided under Sacrifa weren't vetoing the very thought. ... As a last note, Cetsa wonders if 'I was really all that bad' and seems to blame everything wrong with her life on the moment she got her pendant.  Kygar, Cetsa's right hand man. Gut punched her so he could flee and leave her to Slade. A skilled plunger and fighter. Goofy, womanising fighter/bard wannabe that uses big words to sound smart. Rhue repeatedly saves the lucky bastards life. Here's to hoping that keeps up. Kloe, a Blood Lyn that was contracted out to Foreman Ballar before her training was complete because her partner fled the Blood Lyn. This is interesting because... it sets up why Kloe would know about the escape that apparently has been kept quiet.And she somehow seems to know Gaius and was desperate to speak to him. Traziun, who also knows about the second escape, was vaguely familiar with Gaius' name. How stinking odd. Besides that, she's not really important to the plot despite being one of the most major characters. That's because she was meant to be a one off character only present in Lide until Lun realised he enjoyed writing for her. So she's a bit disconnected from everything else going on. The Blana Sera sentenced her to death for... some reason. Traziun says such things only happen for extremely serious crimes. Kloe herself seems to lack the will and a reason to live, but is also too scared to just die.  Masked woman who likes it down in the Pits, and claims to have travelled to The Reaches herself. As in, she claims she takes walks in the settings physical Hell.She was also providing Jopaga with components for his formulas that she retrieved from the Pits in exchange for a formula to fix her face. Has a problem with men... Calls Rhue a chauvinist pig and such things, though I feel she's completely accurate when she gives her speech about Rhue thinking he's a hero, something I've meant to talk abotu for a while and keep forgetting. Also believes love isn't real and is just an excuse for men to have beautiful trophy wives they'll dump for even prettier trophy wives. She seems... genuinely touched when Rhue says her hair is pretty though, but it doesn't last long. HATES being touched and flips out when Rhue saves her life at the volcano by carrying her out. She was VERY interested when Rhue mentions Serena, and was curious as to what he thought about her, if he genuinely loved her and where Serena currently is. When they parted ways, she went out of her way to save him from being stuck in the Pits, without Rhue knowing. And seemed to know who Rhue was now, pondering that 'he' was alive even if his name was strange. As for the item she was after in the Pits? It's never clarified but it was probably the Shadow Sword from Lide, and it was -probably- Traziun who beat her to it.  Definitely not Red Zero. Dirk, an eccentric pervert of an old man who claims to be, among many other things, names and titles, a Forerunner.Seems knowledgeable about monsters though.  We first met Velicia way back on Marna Stretch. She's a ranking member of the Guided who seems to be under orders direct from Pontifex Maximus Tetzel (essentially the Pope of the Guided) to investigate Sacrifa and his Guided's activities.Don't forget the name Tetzel either, it'll be coming up more.  Medmur, the third member of the Vigilante Council who we've only seen briefly thus far, does wind up being a bit important so don't forget he exists. This old lady will be a bit important too. Her name wasn't mentioned but she had a nice friendly chat with Rhue at the park while she fed the birds. She spoke about the power of love and how it's the only thing that's kept her alive for a long time, that she'd have died long ago without it. She's good.
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Episode 4: Part 12: *BLUSH* Fleshwit fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Feb 19, 2020 |
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The Way reminded me a lot of the RPGs of the PSX era. One such way is how like FFVII and Xenogears it explores the implications of JRPG conventions on the characters and setting. The Way is a place where everyone is expected to deal with violence and reject permanent material or societal ties. And in this murderhobo (JRPG protagonist) civilization Rhue is perhaps the most nonchalant towards violence and the most detached in favor of the higher purpose of finding Serena. Normally in this type of alien world we'd be given a viewpoint character who's closer to us like Tidus in FFX, but we're following Rhue instead of someone like Traizun or Khloe.
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Four episodes in and I have no real idea where this is going. I hope that everything gets tied together neatly by the end, but I'm not entirely optimistic. The setting is pretty great, though, and I think the plot and characters would've worked out well if Lun had someone to tell him to cut some of it out.
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ultrafilter posted:Four episodes in and I have no real idea where this is going. I hope that everything gets tied together neatly by the end, but I'm not entirely optimistic. You'll never have an idea of where it's all going. It'll keep swerving very wildly right up to the end. In a good way, if you ask me. Also, not... -everything- will be resolved but I think Rhue's story comes to a very good and satisfying conclusion honestly. But whether or not the normal or even any of the endings are good or not is one of the reasons Episode 6 is so divisive. That and how very very very different it is from all 5 preceding episodes in style and structure. Like it seriously feels like it belongs in a completely different series. Still my favourite Episode! And keep in mind what I said earlier about uh... Lun getting really sick or depressed or something... it starts to show a lot by the time of mid Episode 5 and especially in Episode 6, and I've mentioned before there's a scene in Episode 5 he strongly considered killing off Rhue in and having it all end abruptly right there. And that there was meant to be 7 episodes until he decided he didn't want to make more.
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Microcline posted:The Way reminded me a lot of the RPGs of the PSX era. One such way is how like FFVII and Xenogears it explores the implications of JRPG conventions on the characters and setting. Right? This is part of what makes him so great as a lead. He exemplifies what it is to be a wanderer. You see so many give in to the temptation to settle down, that even the Guided let Estrana be a pointed exception to their doctrine. Because most people don't have a reason to keep wandering forever other than 'we always have' or 'the Guided say so' or 'if we don't, the Rolling Mists will get us'. Rhue has his reasons to wander the Way and he'd do so until his very last breath. Speaking with foreknowledge of things to come, having Rhue be both obsessed and crazy enough to be the perfect wanderer is definitely intentional on Lun's part.
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I dunno, even among other characters he's obviously the odd man out. Like he still asks Tidus-esque questions but without(?) the Titus-esque excuse. Like the game is screaming pretty hard that Something Is Off About Rhue, but it's taking a painfully long time to elaborate on what that is. As for the game design, from what I understand this was in vogue back in the day. People wanted to make their games seem unique so they would do things that the big name devs wouldn't do, like hide items behind obnoxious walls. It would be some time before people learned that big name devs don't do this kind of poo poo for good reason.
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Meanwhile in ffxii there are a bunch of chests you can't open starting from the beginning of the game unless you want to be locked out of the best weapon in the game. I think it's more indie designers of the day aping jrpg conventions no one liked because it's just how you do things
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Exercu posted:Meanwhile in ffxii there are a bunch of chests you can't open starting from the beginning of the game unless you want to be locked out of the best weapon in the game. Even Final Fantasy VI hides poo poo behind walls. The hallway where Locke rescues a certain someone has stairs down to a treasure room with multiple chests in it, but there's no indication there's any stairs there. There's also crap like the stuff with Shadow at inns in the second half of the game and that's even assuming you can get Shadow in the second half if you neglected to do one little thing that probably wouldn't occur to you. As for Rhue playing a fish out of water for the players sake role, yes, he still does. It doesn't change that his personality and actions are... out of the ordinary for a JRPG protagonist. And he does seem to know some things about the Way. If you go back and track what he does and doesn't know it's actually a little strange. There -may- be some explanation for it but... that's also a question of 'why' in the end. I think the in-character excuse you're meant to make for him is that he left his parents when he was like 10? 8? or something? And then maybe every interaction he's ever had since is like the one in the first real scene of Episode 1, where he's basically like "Oh yeah, I only stopped to ask around camp if you know about this girl I'm looking for. Thanks for dinner. I'm gonna keep walking ALLLLL night."
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Exercu posted:Meanwhile in ffxii there are a bunch of chests you can't open starting from the beginning of the game unless you want to be locked out of the best weapon in the game. Sure but that's one example in the game, though FFXII's approach to loot was...odd. And it was fixed in the IZJS release
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I assume he untied her, right? He didn't just "get her out of there" still bound for shits and giggles, did he? I think it says a lot about the character that I even have to ask this.
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Hammurabi posted:I assume he untied her, right? He didn't just "get her out of there" still bound for shits and giggles, did he? Not just shits and giggles. Also easy handling!
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Episode 4: Part 13: Express Tunnel To HELL!
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The next update'll have one of the most iconic and infamous scenes of the series. The other scene competing for similar notoriety is in Episode 5, but despite the fact I like episode 5 more than 4 in general, I feel the Episode 5 scene is badly overrated. Anyway, I'm strongly considering recording and uploading it as a video.
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Using dark magic to try and heal your lover? What could possibly go wrong???
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SSNeoman posted:Using dark magic to try and heal your lover? What could possibly go wrong??? Not even just dark magic. He's planning on walking through Hell and asking Satan for a personal favor.
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Fleshwit posted:Not even just dark magic. He's planning on walking through Hell and asking Satan for a personal favor. Why would he possibly think that even might work? The underlying theme of the game seems to be "Love makes you do unbelievably stupid things." Is that accurate, would you say?
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I would say Love a big theme of the series, yes. With the stupid and crazy side effect, as a sub theme of it. As for why he'd think it would work... I don't know. It might just be plain desperation since it seems to have been happening a long time. But if the Lord Below is like real life devils/demons, maybe he has a history of making deals and stuff. Also note there was those books about Janwen. The story we know about Janwen is that it was burnt down by the Purpose. One of them claims to be the truth about Janwen, so things could be much different than what we know. One last idea is that... maybe Sacrifa has something he believes the Lord Below could want? Or do for him? I actually can't remember if he says he does or not. I more wonder about what the hell he tells his own Guided about his plans. Oh wait, you know. There was that subplot about the Guided working with Jopaga to make enhanced super soldiers, so taking Hell by force might have been part of it (or at least protecting themselves while in Hell). And someone did spare and take one of the Shadowlord researchers away, to continue work on that, as we heard.
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No matter what it is, you can say Sacrifa's got some real loving brass balls on him. It's -technically- not as audacious a villain plan as say, becoming a God or devil yourself, but there's just something about the idea of this guy thinking he can just stroll through Hell and right up to Satan and go 'hey do me a solid and fix my wife and I'll do you a favor sometimes'.
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Hey, it's got a non-zero chance of working! Then again, Sacrifa might get his rear end in a top hat torn out through his nostrils or melt into blood as a result of this plan.
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Episode 4: Part 14: The Night The Clock Died.
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The way Slade runs with his sword always looks dorky. I can't believe I forgot how silly it looked.
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Argas posted:The way Slade runs with his sword always looks dorky. I can't believe I forgot how silly it looked. He's obviously charging up a power attack! He cut a guy in half!
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Hey, thanks for that character roundup, it was helpful! I'm fairly sure the high level Guided guy is going to offer to sacrifice the whole city to the devil to help his wife. Or else her problem, that makes her unable to travel, is otherwise why the Guided make a weird exception to their "no settlements" rule. Maybe both.
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GunnerJ posted:Hey, thanks for that character roundup, it was helpful! While the former is very possible, I doubt the latter. As we've heard from Velicia, the order to make an exception for Estrana comes direct from Tetzel himself, and Sacrifa and Lilah seem to have gone WELL out of their way to hide their relationship, to the point of even making a damnable puzzle house for Lilah to secretly enter the mansion by. Lilah's condition is also similarly secret. I wouldn't be surprised if the Guided don't even know Lilah was one of them at one point anymore. We'll find out the actual reason for Estrana being an exception eventually, but Sacrifa might have just managed to carefully move Lilah to Estrana... or she luckily got sick around there.
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For all the crap people give Rhue about plunging we're already at level 5 of 8 of their scaling system which should put us like above 70% of the people who do this poo poo.
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Fleshwit, are you going to mention that there was originally an alternate version of the Lexus scene?
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Tallgeese posted:Fleshwit, are you going to mention that there was originally an alternate version of the Lexus scene? Yep, was saving that for the post between episode 4 and 5.
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Episode 4: Finale: The Big Plunge.
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That episode 5 title screen is giving me some End of Evangelion vibes.
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INTERMISSION
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Episode 5: Part 1: The Victory of The Big Plunge.
Fleshwit fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Feb 20, 2020 |
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