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comedyblissoption posted:they will welcome us as liberators, or else
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These administration is taking a break from threatening Iran to tweet some poo poo by Venezuela again. https://twitter.com/VP/status/1133847857172307968 https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1133919035475841024 I wonder if Pence brought up Guaidó claiming to have the loyalty of half the army. The Norway talks "collapsed" and reading between the lines it seems like the phone call to Guaidó was about abandoning them. Norway itself said they were going well yesterday. quote:OSLO/CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido vowed to press ahead with street protests after talks with government officials hosted by Norway ended on Wednesday without progress towards resolving the South American country’s long-running political crisis.
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brugroffil posted:Also claiming popular support for Guaidó and that he's "winning the popularity contest" Is this like the"invisible primary" in the US? In that they're both solely about the elites in the USA and the actual people affected by it can go gently caress themselves
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May 30, 2019 13:47
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imagine being a liberal being tricked by a bush into a horrible war then a decade later you get tricked by trump into a horrible war lmao
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liberal media like npr make it a point to silence the much larger protest crowds made up of largely brown people demonstrating popular support for maduro or against guaido
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A Fugitive In His Own Country, Venezuela's Juan Guaidó Insists His Movement Is Strong https://www.npr.org/2019/05/30/728079493/a-fugitive-in-his-own-country-venezuelas-juan-guaid-insists-his-movement-is-stro manufactured consent
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May 30, 2019 14:39
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StashAugustine posted:there were a bunch of insane vietnamese expat groups that kept grifting funding to overthrow the communist government and probably killed some local journalists when they started asking where the money was going
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My personal fantasy is to some day read or listen to an NPR story that is critical of the State Department, instead of just repeating what some people at State said. Of course this will never loving happen, but I still daydream about it regularly. Could you imagine how crazy the world would have to get for that to happen? It would be like opposite day in the upside down, truly a bizarre time.
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comedyblissoption posted:i wonder if venezuela really did cultivate a grift defense force like some posters theorized where they get some of their military command pretending to go along w/ john bolton and elliot abrams and poo poo for a big jeb moment the PBF weeaboo comic but the weeaboo guy is Guiado
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Pryor on Fire posted:My personal fantasy is to some day read or listen to an NPR story that is critical of the State Department, instead of just repeating what some people at State said.
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brugroffil posted:A Fugitive In His Own Country, Venezuela's Juan Guaidó Insists His Movement Is Strong On what the opposition demands: Guaidó said that Maduro must leave office and that Venezuela could then hold free and fair elections. i see they went into the talks with the attitude that guaido actually accomplished anything. he really should be negotiating for amnesty in exchange for renouncing his fake title instead lol
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Ytlaya posted:The main theory at the time was that it was a side effect of Russian spying technology, so not quite that goofy, but pretty close. It's kind of funny how consistent this is with their ideological position on American intervention. "Well of course they don't intend to cause bad things, it's just a side effect, these things are complicated you know."
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yeah, i remember seeing all that racist 19th century propaganda about irish immigrants bringing their boutique scaf stores to brooklyn and agitating for the us invasion of the emerald isle
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May 30, 2019 17:38
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Unsurprisingly that Twitter thread is full of white Venezuelans mad that people keep pointing out that they're white
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May 30, 2019 17:38
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us propaganda claimed that all haitians have hiv (and in fact invented hiv somehow), which is basically the same thing as pointing out that wealthy 2nd and 3rd generation venezuelan-americans maybe don't have as firm a grasp on what's going on in the country their grandparents emigrated to from europe for a couple of decades before they all moved to the us when their plantations were seized
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https://twitter.com/pauloCanning/status/1129124110989242368 oh my god it's an epidemic with these people
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that person’s twitter feed is also a bunch of “corbyn is antisemitic, Bernie is evil, and also have you heard about Syria???”
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https://twitter.com/pauloCanning/status/1129385532537151488?s=20 The "context" that article gives is just "war is hell  ". It doesn't even really deny that he was killed for being a chavista. The article he cites about the opposition being white includes this gem quote:In the testy exchanges you’ve kept having with your diaspora tormentors this week, one trope shows up again and again: the people it comes from don’t look like everyday Venezuelans. Their skin is lighter than most Venezuelans, their English better, their clothes more expensive looking. Real Venezuelans, you keep telling us, are nothing like the elites hurling abuse at you for protecting the Venezuelan embassy on behalf of the socialist revolution.
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May 30, 2019 18:08
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lol using woke identity politics to insist there is not a racial or ethnic component in venezuelan politics
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May 30, 2019 18:13
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i hope the wet bandits get him
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comedyblissoption posted:lol using woke identity politics to insist there is not a racial or ethnic component in venezuelan politics woke imperialism is the most 2019 thing
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May 30, 2019 18:30
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Percelus posted:woke imperialism is the most 2019 thing 2001-2004 might disagree
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comedyblissoption posted:lol using woke identity politics to insist there is not a racial or ethnic component in venezuelan politics It's already happening with Ilhan Omar.
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Echo Chamber posted:Once the political center of gravity shifts decisively towards the left in the US, you're going to see white liberals use woke identity politics to deny any racial or ethnic component in American politics. libs absolutely fell over themselves to bray about how Smollett should be lynched because how dare this gay black man abuse their charity to his marginalized status, after all ~*~*ARE HEROES THE POLICE*~*~ said he did!
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Epic High Five posted:libs absolutely fell over themselves to bray about how Smollett should be lynched because how dare this gay black man abuse their charity to his marginalized status, after all ~*~*ARE HEROES THE POLICE*~*~ said he did! i have mixed opinions about smollett, on one hand he did lie to the police and i approve of that but he filed a police report which is a big no no
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Percelus posted:i have mixed opinions about smollett, on one hand he did lie to the police and i approve of that all the stuff that got unsealed has had more info on that, apparently he asked someone else at the scene specifically to not report it to the police but they did anyway not sure what he lied to the police about, anything anybody on the outside heard was straight from the lyin lips of the CPD
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Percelus posted:i have mixed opinions about smollett, on one hand he did lie to the police and i approve of that he did nothing wrong and the CPD lied about everything
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see how easy it is for the mainstream media to convince everyone that a black man is a crazy liar????
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Percelus posted:woke imperialism is the most 2019 thing Al! posted:2001-2004 might disagree It's a full court press, the state department sells woke imperialism to critical thinker liberals while the DoD panders towards the "beat their rear end and steal their gas" demographic.
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May 30, 2019 18:51
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Whats happening in the us embassy since the us seized it illegally
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https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1133769770103451653
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Kurtofan posted:Whats happening in the us embassy since the us seized it illegally the protectors are being charged with prison time and the mission itself is probably being used to rubber stamp deportation orders
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lmao i knew they'd use it primarily for deportation but using it to compile a list of people to deport is some next level poo poo
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Al! posted:2001-2004 might disagree As I remember it the whole humanitarian angle to the War on Terror and Iraq invasion only started getting played up around 2005 or 2006 onward after it became clear the war wasn't going very well and wasn't going to end quickly. From 2001 to 2004 I think Bush's miltiary adventurism it was explicitly understood as an open display of raw American power.
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the humanitarian angle goes back further to good ol elliot abrams sneaking weapons in aid shipments during the 80s at least really much earlier, the white man's burden is basically humanitarian imperialism this new woke imperialism is slightly different though because no one claimed if you didn't support war in iraq you were the real racist i'm sure every empire argued they were uplifting savages or barbarians or whatever they wanted to call the subjected foreign populations Percelus has issued a correction as of 20:02 on May 30, 2019 |
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Percelus posted:the humanitarian angle goes back further to good ol elliot abrams sneaking weapons in aid shipments during the 80s at least That's because 2001-2006 was still the tail end of 90's "color blind" politics where we didn't see race because we didn't have to. Regardless, there was a humanitarian angle that was played up exclusively for liberal consumption. It was all over MSNBC, CNN, etc.
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i feel like trump exposes how pointless it is to create this false narrative that "we're the good guys" because deep down everyone knows what imperialism is so when the naked truth is exposed liberals still go along due to their material interests they just prefer a scenario where they can lie to themselves and halfway believe it
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Percelus posted:the humanitarian angle goes back further to good ol elliot abrams sneaking weapons in aid shipments during the 80s at least British media culture was ahead of you on this one: http://eustonmanifesto.org/signatories-of-the-euston-manifesto/euston-manifesto-signatories-b/ Euston Manifesto signatories list posted:Julie Burchill - Because I believe in democracy for all - not just for white people, as the opponents of the war in Iraq appear to. (Julie Burchill was a columnist in the Guardian at the time, I believe) "Woke Imperialism" captures the Euston Manifesto phenomenon very well. Michael Weiss was a signatory to the American variant of it (maybe further involved as well, I don't know). This was back in the days before his #Resistance reinvention, when he was palling about with Pamela Geller. The poo poo he comes out with in the DailyBeast etc. is VERY Eustonite.
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