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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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RuanGacho posted:It's a very weird feeling to me to consider the debates where we have to listen to hot takes about whats wrong and right in what is said from literally everyone who has no business telling the left what to think. Because "both sides" I also think the GOP actively baits us into picking much shittier, "electable" candidates and we loving fall for it almost every time
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Jun 28, 2019 16:48
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GlyphGryph posted:I really liked the one guy for the zinger against Biden for passing the torch, I have no idea who he is, but I'd love a debate between him, Harris and Biden where he and Harris just take turns punching Biden until he gives up. That was Swalwell who went from "who?" to "OH YEAH, START THE KNIFING" real quick to me.
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Jun 28, 2019 16:49
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Skippy McPants posted:I'm not convinced it is. It should be, and for us here is sure is, but a big chunk of Dems are still pretty chill with cops. The last time her cop bullshit started becoming big news it brought her support down. This was back earlier in the primary when she was the flavor of the week. I would not worry about harris’ supposed strength. She’s not a low tier candidate like booker, but she was so far behind coming into the debate tonight that she was not attacked on any of her glaring flaws. That she was able to tear down a stuttering old racist like Biden who’s clearly been hiding up till now cause he can’t handle any kind of scrutiny is not super surprising. If by the second debate she’s a front runner and she’s weathering attacks from the other candidates I’d be more concerned
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Jun 28, 2019 16:51
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One other thing about Bernie is that there's some irony to the fact that the only people who seem concerned about his age are boomers/olds.
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Jun 28, 2019 16:52
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GlyphGryph posted:I really liked the one guy for the zinger against Biden for passing the torch, I have no idea who he is, but I'd love a debate between him, Harris and Biden where he and Harris just take turns punching Biden until he gives up. His name is Eric Swalwell and he's a Fairly Good Congressman.
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Jun 28, 2019 16:53
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Lightning Knight posted:I think they deleted the tweet now but they posted a picture of them hanging out with some Tulsi staffers with strong “we’re going to go to the hotel room and drink now” energy. Are those kids even 18? That’s really gross.
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Jun 28, 2019 16:53
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Ytlaya posted:Also, most older people in general, even if well-intentioned, just seem to fundamentally not "get it." It's like they have some sort of syndrome that makes them incapable of considering the possibility of real change. Part of it is that "legacy media" still has almost 100% control over the opinions of older Americans. It's a very well-documented phenomenon that as the brain ages and loses more of its neuroplasticity it becomes less and less capable of taking in new information or adapting to new things. The legacy media is definitely a hugely malign influence but it's also just a fact that a lot of old people, well meaning or not, really can't 'get it'. Which is why when people get older they should move aside for the new generation, just like boomers don't
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Jun 28, 2019 16:54
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https://twitter.com/katyperry/status/1144445699431362560
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Jun 28, 2019 16:55
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https://twitter.com/GarbageApe/status/1144625279819821057
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Jun 28, 2019 16:56
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Democrazy posted:Are those kids even 18? That’s really gross. I have no idea, I assumed they were seniors. Also it is a joke, this is what they were actually doing at the debate: https://twitter.com/mikegravel/status/1144083058167074816?s=21
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Jun 28, 2019 16:57
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Court packing has been brought up several times. Can someone explain how this doesn't lead to the court continually expanding every time a different party has control of the Congress and White House?
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Jun 28, 2019 16:58
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that centrist shithead melting Ken doll from California gets to be on stage but Mike Gravel doesn’t . Stupid loving country
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Jun 28, 2019 16:58
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SimonCat posted:Court packing has been brought up several times. Can someone explain how this doesn't lead to the court continually expanding every time a different party has control of the Congress and White House? because once you pass HR1 and other laws the gop never takes the house or presidency ever again.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:00
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Groovelord Neato posted:because once you pass HR1 and other laws the gop never takes the house or presidency ever again. Hope is not a course of action.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:01
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Barry Foster posted:It's a very well-documented phenomenon that as the brain ages and loses more of its neuroplasticity it becomes less and less capable of taking in new information or adapting to new things. The jury is hella out on this one. It's true that there's a trend among currently living old people that this is a thing, but the possible causes and treatments to it are enough to fill several textbooks. One of the currently leading theories is that the malign media influence you mentioned is part of what causes the rigidity because of its rapid, unchanging, uncritical constant barrage that ends further consideration. Another is that it's tied to poor gum health (similar to Alzheimer's). It's remiss to chalk it up as a natural process of aging, because it honestly happens with such regularity in specific populations and not others that it presents like a disease.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:02
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SimonCat posted:Court packing has been brought up several times. Can someone explain how this doesn't lead to the court continually expanding every time a different party has control of the Congress and White House? it probably will be packed until a constitutional reform is passed like term limiting justices to coincide with presidential elections until then the judiciary ceases to be an independent branch of government which is probably ok since under parliemntary democracies (lol canada) the courts are explicitly under the legislature and not an independent branch
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Jun 28, 2019 17:02
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https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/1144575210445836289 LOL this is the second time she's done this.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:02
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/1144575210445836289 Oh don't worry, it won't be the last.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:03
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SimonCat posted:Court packing has been brought up several times. Can someone explain how this doesn't lead to the court continually expanding every time a different party has control of the Congress and White House? This is what you're missing: The federal courts and the SCOTUS are ALREADY packed with 40 year old fascists. The worst that could happen in your example is getting back to status quo.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:04
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Ytlaya posted:One other thing about Bernie is that there's some irony to the fact that the only people who seem concerned about his age are boomers/olds. As a young person who likes him I view it as his biggest flaw; age is demonstrated to cause a decline in some important cognitive functions and it's frustrating to me that the two leftmost people among the top candidates are also two of the oldest. It's a function of the hollowing out of the American left on a governmental level between the rise of Reagan and basically a few years ago, but it definitely isn't good and any of the old farts need to be ready to counter the issue of their age. SimonCat posted:Court packing has been brought up several times. Can someone explain how this doesn't lead to the court continually expanding every time a different party has control of the Congress and White House? The idea is that one of the two parties just straight-up shouldn't ever have control of Congress and the White House as currently constituted, and only gets them because the structure of our government persistently enables minoritarian rule. Packing the court lets you correct that and means the Republicans have a much harder time getting control of government. They'd adapt given enough time but the challenges we need to address are facing us right now and time is of the essence.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:04
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Harris is toast from the get-go because her campaign is the dumping grounds for former Hillary lanyards, that is to say arguably the most incompetent bunch of fuckers in politics ever, and given that they don't have the advantage of rigging the entire thing in their favor this time, that ain't gonna cut it.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:05
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SimonCat posted:Hope is not a course of action. what i said was action and not hope. Trabisnikof posted:If true, that makes Obama look like a really terrible leader. he was. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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Jun 28, 2019 17:05
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Groovelord Neato posted:because once you pass HR1 and other laws the gop never takes the house or presidency ever again. If true, that makes Obama look like a really terrible leader.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:07
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SimonCat posted:Court packing has been brought up several times. Can someone explain how this doesn't lead to the court continually expanding every time a different party has control of the Congress and White House? And also it totally would but a 20+ SCOTUS would do a lot to minimize the importance of each individual judge.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:09
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Lightning Knight posted:I think they deleted the tweet now but they posted a picture of them hanging out with some Tulsi staffers with strong “we’re going to go to the hotel room and drink now” energy. Does anyone have the pic lol
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Jun 28, 2019 17:09
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SimonCat posted:Court packing has been brought up several times. Can someone explain how this doesn't lead to the court continually expanding every time a different party has control of the Congress and White House? It might. It would certainly undermine the legitimacy of the Court. The question is, is that worse than the status quo or better?
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Jun 28, 2019 17:09
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You think ACA ate up a lot of Obama's opportunity to pass legislation, imagine trying to pass the court packing bill followed by 5+ lifetime appointments.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:12
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Ghost Leviathan posted:i'm not sure if Game of Thrones is better or worse. Given upcoming planned shows, in a few years it will be Wheel of Time. see, Warren is Moiraine, Bernie is Mat Cauthon, Trump is Padan Fain, Kamala is Egwene
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Jun 28, 2019 17:12
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Ershalim posted:The jury is hella out on this one. It's true that there's a trend among currently living old people that this is a thing, but the possible causes and treatments to it are enough to fill several textbooks. One of the currently leading theories is that the malign media influence you mentioned is part of what causes the rigidity because of its rapid, unchanging, uncritical constant barrage that ends further consideration. Another is that it's tied to poor gum health (similar to Alzheimer's). Well I learnt something today. I knew about the gum thing but only related to alzheimers specifically. Thanks, that's really interesting.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:12
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Tibalt posted:You think ACA ate up a lot of Obama's opportunity to pass legislation, imagine trying to pass the court packing bill followed by 5+ lifetime appointments. do people actually remember how that went down or?
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Jun 28, 2019 17:14
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SimonCat posted:Court packing has been brought up several times. Can someone explain how this doesn't lead to the court continually expanding every time a different party has control of the Congress and White House? We make sure Republicans don't get controll of the White house and Senate
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Jun 28, 2019 17:14
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Ogmius815 posted:It might. It would certainly undermine the legitimacy of the Court. The question is, is that worse than the status quo or better? Outside of basically the Warren court, SCOTUS has mostly served as a regressive institution with occasional stints as a release valve for public will where our broken-rear end legislative institutions simply would not do the job. With the replacement of Scalia and Kennedy with Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, the latter cases are effectively gone for at least the next two to three decades under the current structure of the Court. Thus, the legitimacy of the Court (such as it is at the moment) is actively harmful to progress. So while replacing all the justices with the reanimated corpse of Thurgood Marshall cloned nine times and having everyone agree with the legitimacy of the Zombie Marshall Court would probably be the ideal situation, a court viewed as politically tainted but incapable of blocking progressive reform is an acceptable and achievable alternative. Hieronymous Alloy posted:Given upcoming planned shows, in a few years it will be Wheel of Time. Trump won 2016 by channeling saidin and what we see now is the result
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Jun 28, 2019 17:14
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Mellow Seas posted:I won’t bother linking it because a) paywall and b) stupid, but blue blood Republican columnist David Brooks’ column in the NYT today is titled “Dems, Don’t Drive Me Away”. The loving Never Trump Republicans think they’re the base of the Democratic Party these days. In all fairness, so does Nancy Pelosi.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:14
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:We make sure Republicans don't get controll of the White house and Senate Why don't we just cut to the chase and ban the Republican Party then?
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Jun 28, 2019 17:16
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you don't seem to get that this isn't a choice.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:16
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Given upcoming planned shows, in a few years it will be Wheel of Time. So after the halfway point it feels like an interminable slog? Yeah makes sense
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Jun 28, 2019 17:17
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I think Marianne Williamson is actually better than 95% of the other fuckos who were on that stage, and the biggest reason people itt arent willing to offer her a degree of unironic support is due to her pre-existing reputation as a non-serious candidate. She's the only one who really talked about imperialism, preventative health care, or actual reparations. Her last bit talking directly to Trump might have been an attempt to get him to tweet about her, which would be pretty drat smart (thought she also might just be a bit kooky and that wasn't a consideration for her).
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Jun 28, 2019 17:17
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SimonCat posted:Why don't we just cut to the chase and ban the Republican Party then? It would require a constitutional amendment. Even the Klan can form a political party. Winning elections doesn't. Neiither does packing the court.
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Jun 28, 2019 17:18
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what does this have to do with smug people calling other people smug
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Groovelord Neato posted:do people actually remember how that went down or? I should clarify, in a hypothetical unified Republican government after the Democrats pack the court, absolutely they would spend the time to do this. The unified Democratic government after the SCOTUS has been packed to 9 Conservatives, 8 Progressives, and 1 to 6 Thomas-esque Wildcards, maybe not.
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