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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cumshitter posted:

working with an accountant and figuring out what your expected tax bill will be in the year of liquidation would be smart. nobody would fault indigi for retaining some of the cash to cover his tax bill.

oh yeah. poo poo. I guess I’ll start putting some money aside for that too

so I should buy bonds as well as an index fund?

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cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

indigi posted:

oh yeah. poo poo. I guess I’ll start putting some money aside for that too

so I should buy bonds as well as an index fund?

yeah but you need to do some research and figure out what youre comfortable with. you want higher volatility and more equities early on in your 12 year investing timeline. as you get closer to the end or as you approach an amount youre satisfied with giving to your nephew youll want to reallocate a higher portion to bonds

google sheets is good for this. it has a function that pulls current price within 15 minutes or so, and you can just periodically update your cost basis and number of shares to determine your current gains and performance.

hopefully this will help you visualize what im talking about. below is a performance report i pulled from a long time client's account some time back. S&P w/inc means the S&P 500 index with dividends reinvested. B/C GC I means the Barclay's Intemediate Government/Credit (treasuries and corp bonds) index. or bonds with a maturity date of greater than 1 year and less than 10. its also with interest reinvested. these are yearly, non-cumulative returns



as you can see the S&P is much more volatile, which is good when you have a longer investment horizon and you dont anticipate that you will need the money anytime soon. the barclays is far less volatile, but offers lower returns. what portion of your portfolio do you want to be exposed to potential 30% +/- on a yearly basis? what portion do you want slower, but steadier less risky growth for? this is something youll have to examine every year or two.

youd have far more money if you had been 100% S&P 500 for 15+ years. but that doesn't mean much if you cant sleep at night

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cumshitter posted:

youd have far more money if you had been 100% S&P 500 for 15+ years. but that doesn't mean much if you cant sleep at night

oh yeah big volatility swings won’t bother me much at all yet considering the decade-plus time frame but I’ll definitely want to start rebalancing things in 5-6 years. I mean it’d suck if the account went -99% or something but the good news is he doesn’t know about it so I can just pretend like nothing ever happened and give him a hundred bucks when he turns 18.

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

if you want to ape into an all time high of a massive ponzi scheme that still has room to expand buy safemoon instead of doge. if i had just held my original $100 investment back in march instead of selling at $600 i would have $20,000 by now

dew worm
Apr 20, 2019

Cloks posted:

lmao at all the dorks on reddit who bought doge in the last few days

Dodge is holding steady at .30 cents, I'll give it that.

But yeah, lot of folks talking about dropping their life savings in at .45 cents. Who knows, maybe they become Dogeillionaires

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

I wish I was either dumb enough to believe all the crypto bs so I invest all my money into it to become rich
or
I wish I was smart enough to understand how all the dumb people would think and invest appropriately so as to become rich

instead I am exactly dumb enough to remain broke, which is somehow dumber than the dumb people.

meanolmrcloud
Apr 5, 2004

rock out with your stock out

Yossarian-22 posted:

if you want to ape into an all time high of a massive ponzi scheme that still has room to expand buy safemoon instead of doge. if i had just held my original $100 investment back in march instead of selling at $600 i would have $20,000 by now

oh so this is literallly a Ponzi scheme? a percentage of every new coin purchase goes towards paying people already holding coins?

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

indigi posted:

oh yeah big volatility swings won’t bother me much at all yet considering the decade-plus time frame but I’ll definitely want to start rebalancing things in 5-6 years. I mean it’d suck if the account went -99% or something but the good news is he doesn’t know about it so I can just pretend like nothing ever happened and give him a hundred bucks when he turns 18.

bumping this because im curious what you ended up doing. give me your money

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cumshitter posted:

bumping this because im curious what you ended up doing. give me your money

I put it all in SPYX

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.
i'm trying to not get my hopes up about getting rich off of safemoon, but signs are pointing to "i might get rich"

i also bought $10 worth of something called zeppelin.dao, which i heard about from the same guy i found out about dogecoin and safemoon from.

i had a moment a few months ago where i wanted to invest more money into dogecoin but only had a few hundred dollars, and the same thing is happening to me with safemoon. except this time, the few hundred dollars of safemoon is millions of safemoon, not thousands of dogecoin.

i just hope i can make enough money and bail from my job and invest it in the community, make the world a better place :yaycat:

i'm gonna feed a lot of people for free, that's for loving sure

gonna set up places and call them "free lunch"

i used to say "if i somehow got rich, then rich people hosed Up" and i'm fairly certain rich people are in the loving-Up-phase, and soon, they will have hosed Up

if i don't get rich, it's all good, tho :yaycat: i'm grinding hard enough to quit my job anyway, and i can not be stopped

sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGp9P6QvMjY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGjSq4HqP9Y

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Alobar posted:

i had a moment a few months ago where i wanted to invest more money into dogecoin but only had a few hundred dollars, and the same thing is happening to me with safemoon. except this time, the few hundred dollars of safemoon is millions of safemoon, not thousands of dogecoin.

i have no idea what you are talking about but dont let hindsight cloud your vision. saying you dont want to miss out on the next big thing is no different from thinking "i would have bet more last hand if i had known i would be dealt a blackjack."

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.

cumshitter posted:

i have no idea what you are talking about but dont let hindsight cloud your vision. saying you dont want to miss out on the next big thing is no different from thinking "i would have bet more last hand if i had known i would be dealt a blackjack."

i have money in dogecoin that i sent to my bank account, and i want to invest it in safemoon, but there's a 7 day waiting period

i asked the only three friends i could think of to borrow $300, and the only one who was down only had cash

one friend hasn't gotten back to me, but he's busy as gently caress and i respect that

my friend who could really come through for me said it sounded too much like gambling, to which i responded "uhhh yeah?"

tl;dr i have 26 million safemoon when i could have like 74 million. i missed the boat on dogecoin and only got 4,000 compared to the, i dunno, tens of thousands i could've gotten and been able to quit my job already.


it's weird, i think this is the only thread on something awful that mentions safemoon. for some reason i searched for it thinking there would be more discussion about it.

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.
this isn't blackjack, it's texas hold em and sitting on a full house hoping it doesn't get hosed

full houses can get hosed, and sometimes you really gotta fold a full house

i'm not folding here, i wanna see them cards

Zurtilik
Oct 23, 2015

The Biggest Brain in Guardia
Much like with Gamestop. I appear to have to come in to Doge right at the top.

Oh well, way less money into Doge.

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth

Alobar posted:

i asked the only three friends i could think of to borrow $300, and the only one who was down only had cash

:downsbravo:

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
please don't borrow money to gamble

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

Cloks posted:

please don't borrow money to gamble

what kinda idiots are loaning these people money?

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

alobar please just cash out and buy yourself a nice pair of running shoes. you’re going to, at the very least, ruin some friendships this way

meanolmrcloud
Apr 5, 2004

rock out with your stock out

I turned 20 bucks in doge to 150 or so bucks. it would be cool to throw 20 bucks into safe moon but the process to buy it sucks rear end, because I’ve never actually bought crypto the way you are supposed to, and I probably never will

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

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Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.
ok mom and dad rofl

nice posts, it's like you know me or my friends but you don't

"idiots?" "these people?" seriously?

my rule is "don't gamble with rent or food money" just like how i don't drink before noon

judge away tho

i'll be buying you all new safemoon avatars if i'm suddenly ballin af lol


meanolmrcloud posted:

I turned 20 bucks in doge to 150 or so bucks. it would be cool to throw 20 bucks into safe moon but the process to buy it sucks rear end, because I’ve never actually bought crypto the way you are supposed to, and I probably never will

if you had $300 would you have bought $300 doge in january or a :3: nice pair of shoes to exercise with

lol i can't wait to quit my job as a weed delivery driver, i'm in my 30's, i'm too old for this poo poo

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
have a buddy with ~50k dogecoins lol

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth

Alobar posted:

if you had $300 would you have bought $300 doge in january or a :3: nice pair of shoes to exercise with

the shoes

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Alobar posted:

my rule is "don't gamble with rent or food money"

if you have to borrow money to invest that’s exactly what you’re doing

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo

indigi posted:

if you have to borrow money to invest that’s exactly what you’re doing

If things dip at this point money won't matter

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth

indigi posted:

if you have to borrow money to invest that’s exactly what you’re doing

it's not rent or food money if it's my friend's money :thunk:

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

no meds = f4

Chinatown posted:

have a buddy with ~50k dogecoins lol

cha ching

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

no meds = f4
doge coin? it was way up, now it's not up as much. interesting...

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.

indigi posted:

if you have to borrow money to invest that’s exactly what you’re doing

i have food and my paycheck with mad overtime that i'm getting on friday is gonna pay for my rent and my new running shoes

but thanks for pretending to know my budget rofl



OH poo poo! MY 300 JUST LANDED IN MY BANK ACCOUNT! EYYYYYYY :regd08:

punished milkman
Dec 5, 2018

would have won
what the hell is safemoon

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

punished milkman posted:

what the hell is safemoon

idk but the name was clearly chosen to make it seem like a sure thing investment

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

no meds = f4

punished milkman posted:

what the hell is safemoon

pretty sure its a literal ponzi scheme, but it's transparent and up-front about it lol. pretty cool. ive been meaning to "get in" as they say

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

punished milkman posted:

what the hell is safemoon

Its a scavenger hunt based crypto currency or something

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.
it's uhh...it's not a ponzi scheme it's


it's currency lol

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.
capitalism is a ponzi scheme

this is the beginning of its final chapter

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan
e-currencies do seem like capitalism's last hurrah, but we'll see

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Smythe posted:

pretty sure its a literal ponzi scheme, but it's transparent and up-front about it lol. pretty cool. ive been meaning to "get in" as they say

the bitcoin forums had an "honest ponzi" section specifically for ponzis and people who knew they were ponzi schemes

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

cumshitter posted:

the bitcoin forums had an "honest ponzi" section specifically for ponzis and people who knew they were ponzi schemes

every investment is a ponzis scheme

punished milkman
Dec 5, 2018

would have won

Smythe posted:

pretty sure its a literal ponzi scheme, but it's transparent and up-front about it lol. pretty cool. ive been meaning to "get in" as they say

say no more. trying to buy some but can’t find it on binance????

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.

punished milkman posted:

say no more. trying to buy some but can’t find it on binance????

i bought it on bitmart

i used coinbase to send bitcoin to bitmart, and used the bitcoin to trade for usdt, which i then traded for safemoon

just a heads up, at least the last time i checked, the minimum safemoon withdrawal is 50 million safemoon which is like $250 or something? i'm fully prepared to see my money go up in a puff of smoke, so don't do this if it's...uhmmm...your rent or your food money rofl also don't forget to ask your mom and dad before spending your own money so you don't worry the posters on something awful forums

i tried using trust wallet and buying smart chain bnb to use pancake swap to trade for safe moon, like the safemoon twitter account suggests, but i had trouble getting the smart chain bnb for some reason. i think i was trying to buy the wrong thing maybe. gonna see if i can try it again on friday when i get paid, but if not, i still have like 55 million safemoon on bitmart. and 500 million of this zepellin.dao poo poo for like 20 bux.

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Alobar posted:

i'm fully prepared to see my money go up in a puff of smoke, so don't do this if it's...uhmmm...your rent or your food money rofl also don't forget to ask your mom and dad before spending your own money so you don't worry the posters on something awful forums

:aochloe:

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