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At least one of the enemy pilots ejected. I don’t think you need confirmed pilot kills to become an ace.
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Yeah and that’s cool bc they were trying to kill them
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checkplease posted:No clue who this guy is, but found his discussion on the efficiency of the first 15 mins to be interesting. CelticPredator posted:Yeah and that’s cool bc they were trying to kill them What if it was a perfectly legal civilian nuclear plant???
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Well they say it goes against NATO protocols (?) so according to NATO it’s not I guess, whatever the hell that means.
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BrownPepper posted:wow this is smart- you seem like a good poster i am extremely smart, and also quite good looking 
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i appreciated the desire to create verisimilitude by putting cameras in the cockpits and create intimacy with the new cast but felt they went to that angle a little too often. would have liked to see the jets doing cool poo poo in places. neither location (the training islands or the chilly baltic/russian/whatever mountains) felt like it existed. solid movie though, and fun
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Great movie. I have seen it twice and am now super pumped for Israel’s attack on Iran.
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SuperTeeJay posted:Great movie. I have seen it twice and am now super pumped for Israel’s attack on Iran. Happened years ago man
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the first thing i did after seeing this movie was go out and blow a bunch of Navy dude, but to be fair, that's what i do every friday night
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mobby_6kl posted:I pointed this out to my friend right after we left the theater. It's amazing what you can do in 10-15 minutes when you don't have to fill 12 hours of content. Yeah there’s many tv series that would spend multiple episodes on setting up motivation and the issue. Or No Way Home comes to mind, where even though it was lots of fun, it still spent the first 45 minutes trying to set everything up.
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precision posted:the first thing i did after seeing this movie was go out and blow a bunch of Navy dude, but to be fair, that's what i do every friday night tax deductible charity
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I saw this yesterday and I thought all the plane stuff was a lot of fun, but it being rated as some kind of 9/10 almost perfect movie is kind of baffling to me. Most of the stuff about Cruise's character arc just fell very flat for me, it's like if the navy made a hallmark movie about a narcissist. It would have been more interesting to focus more on the maverick and rooster relationship/conflict and just cut the romance with Connelly's character entirely, imo.
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It’s a really simple movie with amazing visuals and real stunts. It felt refreshing when most things today have the most overly complicated plots written by 49 different people.
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Gresh posted:Just saw it. Before covid pushed the movie back Gallup sent out a poll asking the members if they were going to see it and a bunch of questions about military funding and whet they thought about the different branches. I forgot to screen cap them though.
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In the original Top Gun, Maverick wears his dad's G-1 leather flight jacket, which was decorated with patches commemorating his dad's service in the 1960s and featured the flags of Japan and Taiwan. In TG:Maverick, the the flags were changed to avoid offending China, but the after the studio had a falling out with the Chinese, the flags were changed back to the original configuration. https://www.military.com/off-duty/movies/2022/06/10/tom-cruises-jacket-no-longer-legit-reason-skip-top-gun-maverick.html
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I completely forgot about this, but someone in the RLM thread dug up the actual 5th gen fighter Iranians were showing off a few years ago: PeterCat posted:In the original Top Gun, Maverick wears his dad's G-1 leather flight jacket, which was decorated with patches commemorating his dad's service in the 1960s and featured the flags of Japan and Taiwan.  Now also ADR that the bad guys are russia
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Red Bones posted:I saw this yesterday and I thought all the plane stuff was a lot of fun, but it being rated as some kind of 9/10 almost perfect movie is kind of baffling to me. Most of the stuff about Cruise's character arc just fell very flat for me, it's like if the navy made a hallmark movie about a narcissist. I have to agree. Overall, it had a pretty solid and efficient plot, but was certainly nothing mind bending. I also found everything after Maverick gets shot down to be way, way, way too contrived for a movie/franchise that, to me, is pretty rigidly ground in reality. In my opinion, the movie would have been stronger if Maverick had been allowed to die, despite how incredibly telegraphed it would have been. That being said, the cinematography and actual "in-jet acting" makes up for so many of these flaws... I wouldn't rate it a 9/10, but it is definitely a great, fun movie I will watch many times in the future.
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Maverick turns into Ethan Hunt after he gets shot down.
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Stealing an enemy jet is a thing that happened IRL.
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Jose Oquendo posted:Stealing an enemy jet is a thing that happened IRL. After being shot down, evading enemy forces, and using the taxi way instead of a fully constructed runway? The "simple" act of stealing a jet is not contrived, but everything surrounding it certainly is. That being said, I really appreciated the attempted accuracy/hand waving of starting up the F-14 without a ground crew. That is also a bit out there, but was way better than just hopping in and turning the key to magically find the engine turning over.
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the dogfighting in the f14 was a bridge too far after the sams being the worst anti-air devices in the history of anti-air devices. dont care how lovely the pilots were an f14 is not winning air to air with modern jets.
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I’m not sure why anyone expects this to be a mind bending movie. Certainly the first wasn’t. But I guess hype gets to us all. Top gun Maverick is like a perfectly crafted cheeseburger. You’ve had one before, you know what to expect. But it’s just made with expert skill. The script it right, it’s well acted, great soundtrack, and the best flying cinematography. Yeah it’s not realistic at end perhaps, but it’s fun stealing an aircraft having some final dog fights. Most action films will trade fun for realism.
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It's not a big deal but it was still a hard left three and a half hours into the series.
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I should have hated it but it's so well made I didn't give a poo poo. 10/10 action, holy shitballs it's not a CGI bullshit fest for once, real jets go zoom, it rules. Rest is like... 7/10? It's dumb as poo poo BUT executed well so I just went along with it. Navy dickhead career saved because his buddy is admiral is a 10/10 for realism.
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this was probably one of the best parts https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pP3PioLVWBM
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checkplease posted:Top gun Maverick is like a perfectly crafted cheeseburger. You’ve had one before, you know what to expect. To be honest, no I did not expect any of the last twenty minutes-ish. But like live with fruit said, it's not a big deal because it was still fun. I do think a lot of people are riding high on the hype right now, and in time will look back and rethink some of these "among the best sequels ever" comments, but that doesn't mean it wasn't still a great movie. sean10mm posted:10/10 action, holy shitballs it's not a CGI bullshit fest for once, real jets go zoom, it rules. Basically this. Gin_Rummy fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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I think it’s one of the better legacy sequels. Yeah there’s better direct sequels and trilogies and such. But for sequels decades after the last film, I would probably only put Creed above it. Though admittedly I am likely forgetting something. Fury Road too, though it’s not really connected beyond a max that is not having a good time.
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It's better than Color of Money, Bill and Ted, new Ghostbusters. Worse than the new Blade Runner though.
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I think we can all agree it is at least far superior to the likes of Anchorman 2 or Zoolander 2.
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Gin_Rummy posted:I think we can all agree it is at least far superior to the likes of Anchorman 2 or Zoolander 2. Top Gun: Maverick is better but Anchorman 2 is underrated. Especially in light if McKay's turn towards more serious stories. Is it well-known that Kosinski directed Spiderhead? I just learned this today. You'd think Netflix would play up his involvement more now that everyone loves Top Gun.
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Yeah I’m now interested in watching Spiderhead now that I know he is the director
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Ardent Communist posted:this was probably one of the best parts yeah that was sick as balls. as someone who (for some reason) watches a lot of dcs dogfight videos on youtube this smacked. I didn't think maverick should be surprised at the maneuver though, dude is an expert dogfighter and test pilot, theres no way he didnt do sick nasty poo poo in f22s and f35s
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Ammanas posted:yeah that was sick as balls. as someone who (for some reason) watches a lot of dcs dogfight videos on youtube this smacked. The Navy doesn't have F22s. That's actually a weird part about the opening too, the SR-72 would be an Air Force aircraft, it wouldn't have a Navy test pilot on board.
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https://www.dga.org/Craft/Podcast.aspx Directors guild of America podcast has a new one with Konsinki. It’s a good episode and interesting interview. Some highlights: - once they Kosinski convinced Cruise, Cruise immediately called the head of Paramount and said they are making the movie. -the Maverick motorcycle shot took 43 takes over 3 days. Kosinski really wanted the right sunlight. -over 3800 story boards, lots of pre vis -Cruise designed a training regime for the young pilot actors to acclimate them to flying and g forces. This consisted of starting with simple planes like a sensa before moving to more maneuverable ones. - Navy had the cast try some of their own training - the canyon run where Maverick shows how to do the mission is the real top gun low altitude training location. - navy advisors were around to help keep things mostly realistic, - f18s had 6 cameras in them to record cast. They typically flew for an hour each day and then reviewed what cameras captured.
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There was literally a pre-movie commercial before the showing I saw where they interviewed the stunt pilots from the movie and they were all "we had so much fun working on this joint Air Force/Navy commercial, we hope the audiences love it as much as we loved working on it" and I couldn't stop thinking about that during the movie. Also that sun-blotting cloud of tomahawk missiles could have taken out the SAM emplacements and made the bombing run much faster/easier? Or just caved the mountains in on top of the single entry point? I just, I mean yeah the mission was fun but it felt like two movie plots were jammed together. The whole thing could have been just a coming of age story for Rooster in Top Gun training and Maverick being an aging instructor dealing with his guilt over killing Goose. You could even still have the jets doing cool stuff in training competitions. And more beach sport scenes. Like, I just kept thinking of the movie Stealth (2005) during the final mission where nameless mooks in future jets were getting taken out by a supernatural pilot in an F14. In retrospect it kinda takes away from the parts of the original Top Gun that I remember and was looking forward to seeing again the most. Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Jun 18, 2022 |
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There’s the early scene where Maverick first reviews the mission says they can’t use the F35 because of gps jamming. So this could interfere with Sam cruise missile targeting also. But really it’s just the film is happy to trade actual modern tactics for visually exciting stunts. Kosinski and Cruise wanted to film the cast actually flying and everything flows from there. It’s why the F35 is not used. They needed a two seater jet for real pilots. The electronic warfare package could have just shut down the sams. But that’s not as visually intense as missiles and flares flying everywhere. We can imagine an alternative version where they hack the sams for 3 minutes which creates part of the time limit. High altitude flying is probably used also, but again, it’s more fun to watch a jet fly below a bridge.
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i had a dream that Goose was whispering in my ear that wasn't the whole dream, but it's all i remember. it was pretty nice, NGL (:
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Gin_Rummy posted:I have to agree. Overall, it had a pretty solid and efficient plot, but was certainly nothing mind bending. I also found everything after Maverick gets shot down to be way, way, way too contrived for a movie/franchise that, to me, is pretty rigidly ground in reality. In my opinion, the movie would have been stronger if Maverick had been allowed to die, despite how incredibly telegraphed it would have been. I simply rate most movies I wstch 10/10
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I think the movie was nice up to about the part where Tom Cruise wakes up and then it was, well.. I thought it would be a little more intelligent and kinda make the 5th gen fighters more scary but i get why they did what they did. The F-14 bit was a bit much for me. Also a navy pilot having a Mustang and not a Corsair was a travesty.
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Panzeh posted:I think the movie was nice up to about the part where Tom Cruise wakes up and then it was, well.. It's because it's Tom Cruise's personal P-51 and there aren't that many corsairs left in the world. Besides the P-51 is a better fighter plane anyway.
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