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Nae
Sep 3, 2020

what.

The Islamic Shock posted:

I made it about a third of the way through the 120 Days of Sodom.

To be fair, so did de Sade.

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F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



It is a good book, but there's a particular :wtf: event in the first third (?) that makes you wonder what King was thinking when he wrote it. One of my favorite authors, but....yeah.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

It is a good book, but there's a particular :wtf: event in the first third (?) that makes you wonder what King was thinking when he wrote it. One of my favorite authors, but....yeah.

I remember a part where one of the kids sits under the staircase in the library so he can see up the skirts of all the women going up the stairs, and a later part where his adult self stares at a high school kid volunteering at the library and appreciates how he can see her nipples through her shirt. Also one of the kids realizes how dangerous and scary the bullies are because she sees them suck each other off.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



I AM GRANDO posted:

I remember a part where one of the kids sits under the staircase in the library so he can see up the skirts of all the women going up the stairs, and a later part where his adult self stares at a high school kid volunteering at the library and appreciates how he can see her nipples through her shirt. Also one of the kids realizes how dangerous and scary the bullies are because she sees them suck each other off.

I had forgotten about those, but no, I was referring to the "bonding" scene - the way the girl in the group devised to keep them bonded to one another as kids.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

the underage group sex is at the end of the book

eightysixed
Sep 23, 2004

I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.
Does "hosed" get auto-edited in thread titles? I never knew this :aaa:

Mr. Sunshine
May 15, 2008

This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt)

Fun Shoe

The Islamic Shock posted:

I made it about a third of the way through the 120 Days of Sodom.

Review: de Sade thought being shocking and offensive is the same thing as being entertaining. That works to some extent for a while but it gets old quickly.

Yeah, de Sade is hosed up. It doesn't matter what your turn on is, you're gonna get like 50 pages into 120 Days of Sodom and go through a rollercoaster of "This is pretty hot" to "Yo, what the gently caress" to "Yeah, Imma put the book down now".

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



eightysixed posted:

Does "hosed" get auto-edited in thread titles? I never knew this :aaa:

Nope, you can definitely put “gently caress” in a thread title:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3784657&perpage=40&noseen=1

eightysixed
Sep 23, 2004

I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.
Oh. Fair enough.
OP is a pu$$y :v:

Tumble
Jun 24, 2003
I'm not thinking of anything!

Mr. Sunshine posted:

Yeah, de Sade is hosed up. It doesn't matter what your turn on is, you're gonna get like 50 pages into 120 Days of Sodom and go through a rollercoaster of "This is pretty hot" to "Yo, what the gently caress" to "Yeah, Imma put the book down now".

the best thing about 120 Days of Sodom is that it created a great litmus test of a movie because tons of people list it in their "most hosed up movies they've ever seen" but it's obvious most people have only read about it because the movie is actually laughable these days, it's basically just a bunch of naked people wailing with other people monologuing about gross stuff, but all the controversial stuff is really quite tame, especially when compared to modern "extreme cinema" movies like Gaspar Noe's output.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I feel like characters eating poo poo is still relatively rare in film. Also people getting pissed on.

The most disturbing thing about Salo to modern audiences is that the one head fascist looks just like the other doctor on House MD.

Tumble
Jun 24, 2003
I'm not thinking of anything!
yea but it is obviously just pudding, it is not very convincing poop nor are the people supposedly eating it very convincing in their acting

Tumble fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Apr 20, 2023

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

I AM GRANDO posted:

I feel like characters eating poo poo is still relatively rare in film. Also people getting pissed on.

The most disturbing thing about Salo to modern audiences is that the one head fascist looks just like the other doctor on House MD.

I haven't watched it since the 90s and wasn't trying to change that so I GISed it. Got too distracted by this.

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Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

Grassy Knowles posted:

I haven't watched it since the 90s and wasn't trying to change that so I GISed it. Got too distracted by this.



oh my

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"
anyway who looks like which guy from house?

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Famethrowa posted:

Philip K Dick is a pretty hosed up author. Ubik read like a psychotic dream logic stream of thoughts which given his fondness for meth was probably accurate.

highly recommend, but it put me in a weird mood for days.

I’ve read literally all his work except the VALIS stuff I’m pretty sure and Ubik stands alone for what an absolute horror it winds up being and the existential dread it inflicts on you.

Stand on Zanzibar is hosed up to read nowadays because it’s an incredible called shot by Brunner in a lot of ways, muckers especially

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Grassy Knowles posted:

anyway who looks like which guy from house?

This is the guy from House I mean:



I think he looks like this guy:



That’s all I remember about Salo.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

I AM GRANDO posted:

This is the guy from House I mean:



I think he looks like this guy:



That’s all I remember about Salo.

he's got the eyes and smile, but I'm thinking more Harvey Levin or Rachel's dad from Friends

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

i am a moron posted:

I’ve read literally all his work except the VALIS stuff I’m pretty sure and Ubik stands alone for what an absolute horror it winds up being and the existential dread it inflicts on you.

Stand on Zanzibar is hosed up to read nowadays because it’s an incredible called shot by Brunner in a lot of ways, muckers especially

The VALIS stuff is great imho, Transmigration of Timothy Archer is genius...just need to consider it scifi rather than religious doctrine, cause it definitely straddles that line. Pairing it with Zelazny's Lord of Light can help keep that context going.

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
Not quite the same category as some of the other books here but I remember reading a book called The Rag and Bone Shop about a kid who gets accused of murder and they bring in this police guy to get a confession out of him. The police guy realizes he's innocent but has a reputation as the guy who always gets his confession and wants to move up in the ranks so he basically gaslights the kid into confessing - only to find out that during his interrogation the real killer was found and taken into custody. And then the book ends with the kid struggling with being gaslit into thinking he's capable of murder, deciding that yes he is, and fetching a knife from the kitchen before leaving to find one of the school bullies.

That book hosed me up for a long while.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Leraika posted:

Not quite the same category as some of the other books here but I remember reading a book called The Rag and Bone Shop about a kid who gets accused of murder and they bring in this police guy to get a confession out of him. The police guy realizes he's innocent but has a reputation as the guy who always gets his confession and wants to move up in the ranks so he basically gaslights the kid into confessing - only to find out that during his interrogation the real killer was found and taken into custody. And then the book ends with the kid struggling with being gaslit into thinking he's capable of murder, deciding that yes he is, and fetching a knife from the kitchen before leaving to find one of the school bullies.

That book hosed me up for a long while.

I remember Yours Truly, Pierre Stone ending in a similar tone.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Grassy Knowles posted:

The VALIS stuff is great imho, Transmigration of Timothy Archer is genius...just need to consider it scifi rather than religious doctrine, cause it definitely straddles that line. Pairing it with Zelazny's Lord of Light can help keep that context going.

I’ll check it out, the person who turned me on to PKD vehemently hated it. I spent probably a year buying and reading all his novels and short stories and avoided it cause I trust that persons taste but maybe I should just read it all

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

i am a moron posted:

I’ll check it out, the person who turned me on to PKD vehemently hated it. I spent probably a year buying and reading all his novels and short stories and avoided it cause I trust that persons taste but maybe I should just read it all

It's definitely different and weird, there's a lot of sadness in seeing his mental state laid bare like that, but it's incredibly evocative to me at least.

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

I AM GRANDO posted:

This is the guy from House I mean:



I think he looks like this guy:



That’s all I remember about Salo.

if he got level drained

s_c_a_r_e_
May 9, 2003
probably every Peter Sotos book. maybe the Apocalypse Culture books by Adam Parfrey too. kinda wish i never read them.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Tumble posted:

I think for twisted ideas American Psycho is still one of the more shocking fiction books I've made it through, stabbing a kid to death at the zoo is definitely an idea that the author decided to explore alright

Yeah this is one of the most difficult books I've read in terms of tolerating the violence and mutilations described.

Mister Speaker posted:

The scene where he's instructing his son how to shoot himself really hosed me up. I still haven't seen the movie, I'm too scared to see it put to film.

That was a really hard read for me because my son calls me Papa 😭

UwUnabomber
Sep 9, 2012

Pubes dreaded out so hoes call me Chris Barnes. I don't wear a condom at the pig farm.
I read Fight Club and American Psycho back to back. I don't even remember what I read after that it was probably Gone to See The River Man or The Woman or something though.

Waffle!
Aug 6, 2004

I Feel Pretty!


I feel like Clive Barker is an easy target, but Weaveworld certainly had its moments. There's a part early on where a ghost witch sucks off the main character and uses his nut to poo poo out a shadow monster. Described exactly that way. The ending was disappointing, too. The ol' "give the badguy what he wants" trope.

The monstrous God of destruction everyone was afraid of gets the magic maguffin. They use it to wish for a friend, another copy of itself so now there's TWO Gods of destruction or whatever, and they both gently caress off back to where they came from.

Enos Shenk
Nov 3, 2011


I was dating a girl that worked at the library. They get tons of promo paperbacks, and the librarians just take whatever looks interesting. So she'd grab random stuff for me that she thought I'd like.

One day she hands me a few, one of them was "Ghost" by John Ringo.

Yes, the OH JOHN RINGO NO book. I read that loving thing blind before that blog post blew up about it. After about a third I called her "Yo this book is hosed UP. It's the most right-wing power fantasy I've ever read, I'm pretty sure the main dude killed Osama in between fighting people with naked girls helping him. It's funny as hell, gonna finish it." To say she was confused, shocked, and amused is putting it lightly.

I hadn't even gotten to the hundred some pages of BDSM smut.

Jesus what a hosed up book.



One of the other promo copies she gave me was another John Ringo, I forget the name but some science dude in Orlando busts open a wormhole and aliens start invading. It was actually pretty legit good from a mostly mindless action read standpoint.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Wizard Master posted:

What are the most f*cked up books you've ever read? Here are mine:

The Wasp Factory by Iian M Banks


I have an old paperback copy of this somewhere; as is usual, it has a bunch of quotes from reviewers on the inside of the cover. As is less usual, only about half the quotes are stuff along the lines of "a strong debut novel from a promising young author" while the other half are more like "this is utter filth, it's a sad day when a well-known publishing house resorts to printing something like this, and the so-called author should have his head examined".

But then. There was one quote. Which was something like "This is quite mid pedestrian stuff, not much to say really". I always wondered about that last reviewer.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I AM GRANDO posted:

I feel like characters eating poo poo is still relatively rare in film. Also people getting pissed on.

The most disturbing thing about Salo to modern audiences is that the one head fascist looks just like the other doctor on House MD.

A former workmate told me he once got thrown out of Foija (a restaurant) and drunkenly stumbled into the cinema nearby. He didn't really catch the title but it was pretty empty. At some point the movie sobered him up right quick smart. Also there were weird sounds coming from the row behind him and he turned around to see someone having a nice evening wank. Turns out he'd bought a ticket for the first uncensored screening of Salo in the city.

Ivan Shitskin
Nov 29, 2002

Missing Soluch by Mahmoud Dowlatabadi

A hosed up and depressing novel set in a poor rural village in Iran during the 1960s. The story came to the author while he was in prison, and he wrote it in 70 days after he was released while the Iranian Revolution was going on outside.

It's about a woman who wakes up one day to find her husband missing, and she has to struggle to survive and take care of her children by herself. A backdrop to the main story is encroaching modernity/capitalism disrupting everything, causing rural flight and mass migration to the cities among other things. It describes some of the most insane, desperate, grinding poverty I've ever read, like where people will murder each other over a piece of copper cookware. Lots of starvation, abuse, violence, theft, etc. It's been some years since I read it and it stuck with me in a way most books haven't.

Sir Mat of Dickie
Jul 19, 2012

"There is no solitude greater than that of the samurai unless it be that of a tiger in the jungle... perhaps..."
That makes me think of Satan in Goray by Isaac Bashevis Singer (depicting life in a shtetl during the clamor over the messianic claimant Sabbatai Zevi as the Sabbateans clashed with the skeptical rabbinical authorities), also contains many haunting descriptions of absolutely desperate poverty combined with madness, later also combined with zeal over the coming of the supposed messiah. Not sure I'd call the book all that disturbing, but it made an impact on me when I read it recently.

Rattus
Sep 11, 2005

A rat, in a hat!
I remember reading the Thomas Covenant chronicles by Stephen R Donaldson as a teenager, as a friend of mine was raving about them and lent me all 6.
Its about a guy who has/had leprosy and is magically transported to another world, where he rapes the first girl he sees and spends the next 6000 pages regretting it.
The books are so depressing that I couldn't read them for longer than about an hour before having to put them down for a week.

I have only just found out that there are another 4 books that I will not read..

[Edit]
Apparently there is a game called "Clench Racing", wherein players each open a volume of the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant to a random page; the winner is the first to find the word "clench".

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I fight with
my brain
and with an
underlying
hatred of the
Erebonian
Noble Faction

Rattus posted:

I remember reading the Thomas Covenant chronicles by Stephen R Donaldson as a teenager, as a friend of mine was raving about them and lent me all 6.
Its about a guy who has/had leprosy and is magically transported to another world, where he rapes the first girl he sees and spends the next 6000 pages regretting it.
The books are so depressing that I couldn't read them for longer than about an hour before having to put them down for a week.

I have only just found out that there are another 4 books that I will not read..

[Edit]
Apparently there is a game called "Clench Racing", wherein players each open a volume of the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant to a random page; the winner is the first to find the word "clench".

You can do this with almost any fantasy series, although Donaldson makes it a bit easier than most. Once you've seen how often the word "clench" is used by fantasy writers, you'll never unsee it. It's about as true of the genre as the factual statement that nearly every fantasy author can get to, at most, three books before they turn into food porn.

I always thought those books were in a roundabout way wildly optimistic, but you had to sit through the perfect beautiful world getting destroyed over and over and over again, first.

I am convinced this is the series that hosed the Black Company to produce Malazan. Take that as an endorsement or condemnation, depending on palette.

On hosed up, mmmn. Peter Brett's Demon Cycle had a minor subplot about a cult of castrated guys that roamed the countryside, gorging themselves on wine and drugs and their religion's forbidden foods, but also castrating other guys so they would know the need to join them and inflict this indignity on others. Just... Castrated locusts sacking and de-sacking the countryside.

R.F. Kuang's The Poppy War is a fantasy novel that takes inspiration at one point from the Japanese Invasion of Manchuria and the Rape of Nanjing. Which somehow manages to still surprise me with new horrors I hadn't heard about or deliberately drank out of my brain every time I learn more about it.
The other thing though, is the main character's response is "and now this entire culture must die" and I haven't yet finished the series so it's hard to say how much of that mindset the author endorses with regards to the actual Japanese.

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The Zombie Guy
Oct 25, 2008

Enos Shenk posted:


OH JOHN RINGO NO


I love zombie / post-apoc stuff, so my sister gave me John Ringo's Black Tide Rising series. I enjoyed the first book, but as the series went along, he leaned really hard into the Strong, Smart Conservative vs Wishy-Washy Liberal stuff.

A similar thing happens with One Second After by William R. Forstchen. The premise is neat (US is hit by EMP attack, frying all tech), but you know it's gonna go hard Right Wing when the introduction was done by Newt Gingrich.

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