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Moridin920 posted:it was super cool when a modern armor was defeated by a spearman from 1500BC because RNG what are the odds of this happening? Asking as a non player
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Moridin920 posted:it was super cool when a modern armor was defeated by a spearman from 1500BC because RNG This actually was fun and a huge part of Civ1's charm. You can tweak the numbers so it happens 1 in 200 times instead of 1 in 50 or whatever, but planning for that eventuality (or being able to cross your fingers and hope for it as a Hail Mary when you were otherwise hosed) was a Good Thing.
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Oct 23, 2016 20:26
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the stacks of death were actually really dumb and bad and civ 5 & 6s combat system is a huge improvement
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Oct 23, 2016 21:00
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Is the AI combat still poo poo?
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Oct 23, 2016 21:31
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AI combats still not great but it's a step up from V
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Oct 23, 2016 21:36
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MrChupon posted:This actually was fun and a huge part of Civ1's charm. You can tweak the numbers so it happens 1 in 200 times instead of 1 in 50 or whatever, but planning for that eventuality (or being able to cross your fingers and hope for it as a Hail Mary when you were otherwise hosed) was a Good Thing. Actually it sucked poo poo you giant retard
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Oct 23, 2016 21:50
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unit stacking is a non issue since SMAC has it and even the 1 in a thousand chance an outmatched stack will sometimes win thing, and it's the best 4x to ever exist unless you're a big loving baby
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Oct 23, 2016 21:56
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Alan Smithee posted:what are the odds of this happening? Asking as a non player i dunno the exact odds but it was often enough that "spearman in an open field defeats tank" was a meme for a bit back in the day MrChupon posted:This actually was fun and a huge part of Civ1's charm. You can tweak the numbers so it happens 1 in 200 times instead of 1 in 50 or whatever, but planning for that eventuality (or being able to cross your fingers and hope for it as a Hail Mary when you were otherwise hosed) was a Good Thing. Planning for a failure may be cool but dude when your entire stack of 30 tanks dies because 1 of them eventually lost a roll to the stack of 5-10 spearmen from 4-5 ages ago that's just lovely anyway say what you will about civ 6 but the nukes are pretty + the thermonuclear with the larger effective radius are awesome Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Oct 23, 2016 |
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Oct 23, 2016 22:03
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hey man if that spearman can get past the effective range of the barrel, and assuming he avoids the line of fire of any mounted support MG, he could get on top of the tank open the hatch and stab the gently caress out of the crew. Depending on the type of tank.
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Oct 23, 2016 22:07
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Civ games allow for a lot of variety in how you play them which means there's always a whole lot of people unhappy with each new game because it didn't do what they hoped it would. The only way to know if it's "good" for you is to watch let's plays and decide for yourself like an adult human
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Oct 23, 2016 22:40
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Still not as good as 4.
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Oct 23, 2016 22:47
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LPs are that thing where people talk loudly and stupidly over game footage, and play like retards half the time. I wouldnt wanna make purchasing decisions from that.
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Oct 23, 2016 22:50
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The Wizard of Poz posted:Civ games allow for a lot of variety in how you play them which means there's always a whole lot of people unhappy with each new game because it didn't do what they hoped it would. The only way to know if it's "good" for you is to watch let's plays and decide for yourself like an adult human The Wizard of Poz posted:watch let's plays and decide for yourself like an adult human The Wizard of Poz posted:watch let's plays...like an adult human
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Oct 23, 2016 22:50
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Waiting for the Hitler DLC.
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Oct 23, 2016 23:02
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Spearman v. Tank was specifically a meme because unit within cities have way higher defense and, hilariously, the bonuses that spearmen get against people riding horses continued to apply to tanks in the old game, so putting a spearman in a city and turtling up was weirdly effective against tanks. Low level units can still withstand a lot of punishment from higher level units in the late game, but it's because the actual city and its defenses are absorbing the damage. Basically, cities are really hard to capture.
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Oct 23, 2016 23:02
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watching a couple of videos of people playing a game is probably the best way to see whether a game is good before you buy it. sorry if you're a pre-ordering schmuck
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Oct 23, 2016 23:06
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The Wizard of Poz posted:watching a couple of videos of people playing a game is probably the best way to see whether a game is good before you buy it. sorry if you're a pre-ordering schmuck if you don't preorder they can run out of stock on launch day and then you're sitting there playing lovely old civ 5 while everyone else is playing civ 6
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Oct 23, 2016 23:09
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I can't stand to watch videos of people playing because they all talk over it in their nasally voices and Civ specifically involves so much number watching that I want it to go at my own pace. I usually watch a friend play for awhile instead, because they're learning as I'm learning, usually, so we can both look at the numbers, and I don't have to listen to The Internet Gamer on Youtube Voice.
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Oct 23, 2016 23:09
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i'd rather lose money than ever watch somebody else play a video game
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Oct 23, 2016 23:10
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Bicyclops posted:I can't stand to watch videos of people playing because they all talk over it in their nasally voices and Civ specifically involves so much number watching that I want it to go at my own pace. I usually watch a friend play for awhile instead, because they're learning as I'm learning, usually, so we can both look at the numbers, and I don't have to listen to The Internet Gamer on Youtube Voice. well yeah but then your friend has to buy it blind and if you have smart friends they dont do that
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Oct 23, 2016 23:11
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The Wizard of Poz posted:well yeah but then your friend has to buy it blind and if you have smart friends they dont do that someone in this scenario is an idiot, and it's probably the let's players since they ponied up the cash on the off chance they could rush out a video of them breathing heavily while they play a civilization game on launch day but yeah it can sort of help, although the paradox devs tricked me into buying Stellaris through their gameplay videos
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Oct 23, 2016 23:13
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:someone in this scenario is an idiot, and it's probably the let's players since they ponied up the cash on the off chance they could rush out a video of them breathing heavily while they play a civilization game on launch day let's players are definitely unrepentant morons
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Oct 23, 2016 23:16
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The Wizard of Poz posted:well yeah but then your friend has to buy it blind and if you have smart friends they dont do that Sometimes people have enough disposable income that they don't want to wait, and while I am not that person, it's real nice knowing them!!
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Oct 23, 2016 23:17
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Bicyclops posted:Sometimes people have enough disposable income that they don't want to wait, and while I am not that person, it's real nice knowing them!! that's true i guess if you can genuinely afford it without batting an eye then who cares (altho PRE ordering is always dumb)
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Oct 23, 2016 23:24
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The Wizard of Poz posted:that's true i guess if you can genuinely afford it without batting an eye then who cares (altho PRE ordering is always dumb) It's the same as an order except sometimes it comes with prizes, though? If I had all the money in the world I would probably pre-order Civ games because I miss having the paper tech tree I could look at while playing.
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Oct 23, 2016 23:27
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Steam's refund policy is good poo poo. Bless the fact I can just request a refund if something is garbage.
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Oct 23, 2016 23:38
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Methanar posted:Still not as good as 4. Yeah :\ still though 4 is only really good after all the expansions and stuff so we'll see
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Oct 24, 2016 21:23
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stacking was good just because you could have workers work without having to worry about them getting interrupted by your units. Worst thing about 5 is when you tell your workers to build a road to another city then one of your other units stops on the path and the worker freaks out because its way is "blocked."
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Oct 24, 2016 21:32
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e: didn't realize people were talking about Civ 1 bird with big dick fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Oct 24, 2016 21:36
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I always imagined the huge difference in tech-era units on the map more represented general strengths and organization of the unit. So a musketman in modern times fighting a mechanized infantry might represent a disorganized militia with lovely weapons. The spearman beating a tank then would be some lovely mob of idiots with hatchets and hunting rifles managing to get super lucky and get in close with some grenades, or place some IED's. Not literal ancient greeks with little spears attacking a tank. Or at least that's how I explained it in my *head cannon*
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Oct 25, 2016 00:51
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wrong, they're actually literal spearmen
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Oct 25, 2016 07:24
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why are all the leaders constantly flirting with me and giving me bedroom eyes.
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Oct 25, 2016 07:25
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If civ vi is a dating sim i might give it a try
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Bicyclops posted:Spearman v. Tank was specifically a meme because unit within cities have way higher defense and, hilariously, the bonuses that spearmen get against people riding horses continued to apply to tanks in the old game, so putting a spearman in a city and turtling up was weirdly effective against tanks. Low level units can still withstand a lot of punishment from higher level units in the late game, but it's because the actual city and its defenses are absorbing the damage. Basically, cities are really hard to capture. is this less of a thing in later civs?
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Oct 25, 2016 07:30
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Phlegmish posted:wrong, they're actually literal spearmen
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i bought civ 5 because it was only like $20 or $30 and the mac version of 6 hasn come out  ill probably just keep playing this it is fun
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Oct 25, 2016 12:03
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thathonkey posted:i bought civ 5 because it was only like $20 or $30 and the mac version of 6 hasn come out I started replaying civ 5 and its really good
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Oct 25, 2016 12:50
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can you give me some tips or a gamefaqs or something
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Oct 25, 2016 13:07
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thathonkey posted:can you give me some tips or a gamefaqs or something befriend everyone and be friends with everybody and have a good time, no fighting
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thathonkey posted:can you give me some tips or a gamefaqs or something set up your city in a desert or the snow . dont worry about researching or making money or stuff or fighting wars . have agood and chill time.
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