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yeah I eat rear end posted:They stop being a threat when you wipe out their entire leadership and leave only the starving victims of their regime who will want aid, not to nuke us back. Ok, but how are they a threat in the first place without ICBMs and functioning nukes?
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Jan 7, 2018 20:13
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tsa posted:NK is a threat to their immediate neighbors and probably not to the mainland US at this time. If their progress continues they would be definite threat to the US in relatively short order. Threats do not need to be immediate to be threats! Hopefully this was of some help!! By that logic literally every nation on earth and also space aliens need to be nuked in order to prevent them from becoming a threat some time in the vague future.
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Jan 7, 2018 20:16
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Also which of their neighbors are they going to invade, exactly? China?
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Jan 7, 2018 20:17
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I'll probably just hole up in a Subway and eat fresh until things blow over. Even with a loss of power/refrigeration you know that meat and cheese ain't gonna spoil.
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Jan 7, 2018 20:19
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tsa posted:NK is a threat to their immediate neighbors and probably not to the mainland US at this time. If their progress continues they would be definite threat to the US in relatively short order. Threats do not need to be immediate to be threats! Hopefully this was of some help!!
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Jan 7, 2018 20:19
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My Rhythmic Crotch posted:I doubt that. I think kim jong un wants to ensure we don't knock him off like we've done to hussein, gadafi, bin laden, etc. In his mind, being somewhat nuclear capable is the ace up his sleeve to ensure his personal survival. There's no serious intent of launching at us. "in his mind"? It's a pretty legit idea considering recent events
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Jan 7, 2018 20:22
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I say that to indicate that it greatly differs from the narrative that he's an unstable lunatic who's one twitter insult away from trying to start a nuclear war
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Jan 7, 2018 20:27
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Who What Now posted:Ok, but how are they a threat in the first place without ICBMs and functioning nukes? Like the other guy said, they will have them eventually even if they don't right now. They are not worthy of being on the same level of power as us considering their various crimes against humanity and must be destroyed.
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Jan 7, 2018 20:27
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cool attempt at trolling
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Like the other guy said, they will have them eventually even if they don't right now. They are not worthy of being on the same level of power as us considering their various crimes against humanity and must be destroyed. So obviously we need to commit crimes against humanity in order to stop them from maybe possible being a threat someday in the distant future. Hey, Brexit seems to making the UK pretty unpredictable and on edge, and they have actual weapons to use against us, when should we vaporize London?
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Jan 7, 2018 20:30
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Who What Now posted:So obviously we need to commit crimes against humanity in order to stop them from maybe possible being a threat someday in the distant future. England doesn't regularly threaten to nuke us so your comparison makes no sense.
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Jan 7, 2018 20:33
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Not yet they don't, you mean. And can we really take the chance that they aren't secretly plotting against us? I think not!
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Jan 7, 2018 20:34
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Who What Now posted:Not yet they don't, you mean. And can we really take the chance that they aren't secretly plotting against us? I think not! Possibilities like this are why we need to establish a global government with the USA leading it. If one of our controlled countries start getting rowdy they could just be isolated in every way until they fall back in line.
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Jan 7, 2018 20:38
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Little late for that when nukes are already dropping on your town! France has active nuclear ICBMs right this second. They could have launched just minutes ago and you'd never know until you were already engulfed in hellfire.
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Jan 7, 2018 20:41
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Who What Now posted:Little late for that when nukes are already dropping on your town! Having nukes and actively threatening the world with them are different things. Yes France might nuke us but they have shown no indication of wanting to do so, unlike north korea.
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Jan 7, 2018 20:43
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France has the capability to do so, unlike North Korea. And lulling your enemy into a false sense of security by pretending to be an ally for decades is exactly what our worst enemies would do. Maybe try reading a little book called The Art of War???????
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Jan 7, 2018 20:46
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Who What Now posted:France has the capability to do so, unlike North Korea. And lulling your enemy into a false sense of security by pretending to be an ally for decades is exactly what our worst enemies would do. Maybe try reading a little book called The Art of War??????? We'd probably have to attack nuclear countires like france to establish the global government so i don't see why you think i'd think attacking them is a bad idea, but we have to do it in baby steps and take out the direct threats first.
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Jan 7, 2018 20:50
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tsa posted:Actually it's pretty likely precious metals would be acceptable as trade because bartering gets old fast and things that have had near universal value for literally all of human history will probably still be useful as an intermediary for trade. Like if you were to randomly pick times and places to go to in the past, it's incredibly unlikely you would end up in a time or place where gold and similar metals were not considered valuable. Split the difference and get your apocalypse gold from Aliexpress.  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/free-shipping-20pcs-lot-1-oz-Credit-Suisse-Gold-bars-24k-Pure-Gold-Plated-Layered-Bullion/32244683281.html  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Business-Gift-For-999-Real-Gold-Bar-Deutsche-Reichsbank-Gold-Bar-German-Iron-Ingot-Bar-OZ/32800488764.html  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pol...2577155365.html
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yeah I eat rear end posted:We'd probably have to attack nuclear countires like france to establish the global government so i don't see why you think i'd think attacking them is a bad idea, but we have to do it in baby steps and take out the direct threats first. NK is not a direct threat, it's a potential future threat, remember? Please try to keep your stories straight.
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Jan 7, 2018 21:02
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maybe we can't just nuke places cause we wanna and expect it to work out, but get this: maybe we can
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yeah I eat rear end posted:We'd probably have to attack nuclear countires like france to establish the global government so i don't see why you think i'd think attacking them is a bad idea, but we have to do it in baby steps and take out the direct threats first.
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Jan 7, 2018 21:04
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Who What Now posted:So obviously we need to commit crimes against humanity in order to stop them from maybe possible being a threat someday in the distant future. this. the suggestion to kill millions of people now, so that fewer hypothetical future people don’t die is paranoid and ridiculous, these arguments can’t be in good faith. regime stability is in everyone’s best interest at the moment anyhow, an NK collapse would insanely gently caress with the whole region and pale the aftermath of the east / west Germany split OldAlias fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Jan 7, 2018 |
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Jan 7, 2018 21:10
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I've prepped by buying 950 axes, welding them all together and extending them from a very large swing with a trigger system that in case of nuclear war will let me axe myself directly in my own goddamn balls with maximum force and precision.
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Jan 7, 2018 21:10
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i havent bought more guns since the last change of administration but i still have way more than i need to force my neighborhood to barter their daughters for their lives
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Nessus posted:Here's a higher-order question: Why should the USA be the one who establishes the global government? because I'm a US citizen and want my country to win, obviously (e: also we're the best) Who What Now posted:NK is not a direct threat, it's a potential future threat, remember? Please try to keep your stories straight. again, they are going to be if we don't stop them. Their leadership needs to be destroyed for their own good
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Jan 7, 2018 21:13
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Who What Now posted:By that logic literally every nation on earth and also space aliens need to be nuked in order to prevent them from becoming a threat some time in the vague future. Not wrong. We won't be safe until everyone is dead. And I mean EVERYONE. This one weird trick also ends world poverty, inequality, etc.
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Jan 7, 2018 21:17
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yeah I eat rear end posted:again, they are going to be if we don't stop them. Their leadership needs to be destroyed for their own good Is English not your first language? Do you not know what "direct" means? Because I can point you to some online resources you can use to help study up! 
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Who What Now posted:Is English not your first language? Do you not know what "direct" means? Because I can point you to some online resources you can use to help study up! For a direct threat to exist, a threat has to be made. North korea has made such threats and at least possibly has the means to act on them. France has not.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I'm not a prepper, but I am mentally ill. I like to camp and do outdoor things so I have my camping gear and all. Then one time in 2015 I went full blown manic. I don't really remember what it felt like or what I was doing although I remember speeding on the county roads to try to get a cop to pull me over so I could dance with them. Send me a bag of stuff, I’m nervous and have nothing but a blanket and some junk in my car
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Jan 7, 2018 21:24
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yeah I eat rear end posted:For a direct threat to exist, a threat has to be made. North korea has made such threats and at least possibly has the means to act on them. France has not. A six year old can threaten to kick your rear end but that doesn't make them a direct threat. Well, maybe they would be to you, specifically, but not to a normal adult.
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Lucky Guy posted:im the wiifit scale Staying fit is very important in a survival situation. That 1 hour a day of Wii hula hooping will be the difference between outrunning a bear or being his LUNCH!!!  DDD
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Jan 7, 2018 21:34
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If the apocalypse looks imminent, my number one priority will be drugs.
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^^ That's how one of the survivors in The Stand went out. He took a bunch of heroin and just peaced out
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Jan 7, 2018 22:12
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No amount of prepping will save you so you might as well make your last few days/hours/minutes/seconds awesome.
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Jan 7, 2018 22:13
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Who What Now posted:A six year old can threaten to kick your rear end but that doesn't make them a direct threat. If the six year old was actively building the means to kill me every day for the past several years, the analogy might work, but that is pretty unlikely. They have a clear goal that no sanctions or diplomacy will stop, and if anyone deserved a preemptive nuking it is them.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:If the six year old was actively building the means to kill me every day for the past several years, the analogy might work, but that is pretty unlikely. They have a clear goal that no sanctions or diplomacy will stop, and if anyone deserved a preemptive nuking it is them. lol, you're terrified of children.
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Who What Now posted:lol, you're terrified of children. children with nuclear weapons, sure, as you should be also
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NK doesn't have nuclear weapons that could reliably strike the mainland US.
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Who What Now posted:NK doesn't have nuclear weapons that could reliably strike the mainland US. For someone who accused me of not understanding english I really don't understand how you aren't grasping my point yet. Maybe they don't, but they will if we don't mercilessly slaughter them. Does it help to spell it out like that for you
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