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Diet Poison posted:On the Uncanny front, color me pleasantly surprised that the Matthew Problem has been tempered (until they need it to flare up again For Drama Reasons) by Cyclops suggesting they sit down and talk. That's the Scott I wanna see. Of course, I imagine he's almost pissing with glee at the thought of having a Class A++ Nuclear Deterrent on his side, but is very good at forcing himself to not think about things he doesn't wanna get picked up by a telepath. On one hand, I'm glad the problem was solved non-violently, on the other, I'm tired of Cyclops being really smug about his moral high ground all the time and him being right rather than Xavier certainly won't help that.
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mango sentinel posted:So when they get done exploring the stories they want to tell they'll just crack it open and he'll be fine for some reason, right? Or he won't be in there at all. Summer 2016: WHEREVERINE?
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Oct 16, 2014 01:22
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Skipped Death of Wolverine, but the latest Wolverine and the X-Men was nice.
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Oct 16, 2014 01:42
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I picked up Death of Wolverine, Wolvie and the xmen and Uncanny today. Got home and read them in that order. I gotta say that it was bit disappointing to see Wolverine back and rearing to go in Uncanny after just reading about his death. I've bitched about Marvel's lack of continuity before but it's seriously lazy storytelling to not get everyone on board with a big story. Speaking of lazy storytelling turning Wolverine into a statue felt like the weakest way for him to die
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Oct 16, 2014 01:51
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No see they had to kill him this way so Absorbing Man can dig up Wolverine's grave so he can absorb the statues powers.
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Oct 16, 2014 01:55
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I'm WAY late to the "what was your first X-Men issue" topic, but I have a winner. The first X-book I read was this. Remarkably, I survived the experience and went on to buy Uncanny #202 a while later.
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Oct 16, 2014 02:43
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Knucklebear posted:I picked up Death of Wolverine, Wolvie and the xmen and Uncanny today. Got home and read them in that order. I gotta say that it was bit disappointing to see Wolverine back and rearing to go in Uncanny after just reading about his death. The Uncanny arc started before the Death of Wolverine story. It's not lazy storytelling, it's taking place beforehand.
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Oct 16, 2014 03:16
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Codependent Poster posted:The Uncanny arc started before the Death of Wolverine story. It's not lazy storytelling, it's taking place beforehand. Actually its more lazy planning. Considering they have been going on about this for a long time. Which also makes the the fact it was so meh rather hilarious.
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Oct 16, 2014 03:21
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CharlestheHammer posted:Actually its more lazy planning. Why is it lazy at all? Should the editors force all stories that have Wolverine in a small role to end before his death? If people get upset at this, I don't know how you can read any comics where a character is in more than one book.
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Oct 16, 2014 03:31
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Codependent Poster posted:Why is it lazy at all? Should the editors force all stories that have Wolverine in a small role to end before his death? If people get upset at this, I don't know how you can read any comics where a character is in more than one book. Sure, why not? If its not worth caring about I don't see why this upsets you.
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Oct 16, 2014 03:33
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Codependent Poster posted:Why is it lazy at all? Should the editors force all stories that have Wolverine in a small role to end before his death? If people get upset at this, I don't know how you can read any comics where a character is in more than one book. Yeah right now writers are just writing stories and loosely trying to keep continuity wherever possible. Like good loving luck trying to place Avengers/NA (before Time Runs Out began) next to Cap America, Uncanny Avengers, Original Sin, Thor, and others.
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Oct 16, 2014 03:34
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The problem I have with recycling characters into multiple books is the arbitrary nature in which the stories intertwine. So, as a reader I have to reckon with a time line that includes Wolverine fighting Wendigo in Canada then dealing with Professor X's will and then dying (I know that's not exactly accurate but you get the point). It dilutes the impact of the character's experiences. In the end the character's are weaker, and you have character driven stories that are weakened and diluted. I really wish that Marvel would make a one character per book rule. I know that it won't happen because of money but a boy can dream...
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Oct 16, 2014 04:13
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Knucklebear posted:I really wish that Marvel would make a one character per book rule. I know that it won't happen because of money but a boy can dream... They have never had this and they never will
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Oct 16, 2014 04:26
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bobkatt013 posted:They have never had this and they never will No publisher will because it's stupid.
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Oct 16, 2014 04:28
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Nah its perfectly fine. There is no creative or financial downside.
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Oct 16, 2014 04:36
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CharlestheHammer posted:Actually its more lazy planning. Actually he just read the books in the wrong order? Knucklebear posted:The problem I have with recycling characters into multiple books is the arbitrary nature in which the stories intertwine. EDIT: Do you really want to live in a world where Dan Slott is the only person that can write Spider-Man? Or that none of the Avengers could have solo books? That's seriously the dumbest thing on here I've heard in a while. Nobody is forcing you to read every single book that comes out.
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Oct 16, 2014 04:37
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:This one dude has been trying to replicate the weapon x program. He has 3 random dudes undergoing the procedure. Dude initiates the adamantium infusion so Logan, in his infinite wisdom, decides to just slash the adamantium container, covering himself with it. He could have smashed it with something else. He could have I dunno just move the guys about to get injected. He could have cut the transfer cables. But nope he went straight for the tank, didn't try avoiding the liquid metal, then walked outside and I'm guessing died when the adamantium solidified.
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Oct 16, 2014 04:38
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NorgLyle posted:So on a related note, over in the terrible piece of crap Death of Wolverine: The Logan Legacy, Daken is alive again. When and how did that happen? I thought his death in Uncanny X-Force was kind of important and meaningful to like pretty much everything Wolverine has been up to since? He was brought back as a Horseman of death.
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Oct 16, 2014 04:41
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bobkatt013 posted:He was brought back as a Horseman of death.
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Oct 16, 2014 04:48
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NorgLyle posted:Jesus Christ. gently caress Uncanny Avengers and every single thing that's spun out of it. What happened to Rick Remender? Why? He brought him back as a way to gently caress with Wolverine.
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Oct 16, 2014 04:51
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Who is now dead. Way to waste your time.
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Oct 16, 2014 04:52
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Really undermines the impact of Wolverine's death when they have his recently-resurrected son in a drat tie-in book for it. Frig. I hope they keep Charlie X dead because his role is no longer needed and he's one of those "so powerful we have to keep coming up with reasons he can't save the day in 5 minutes" characters. Wolverine, I don't care, bring him back before The Logan Legacy mini even finishes- that'd be a riot.
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Oct 16, 2014 05:37
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Die Laughing posted:the latest Wolverine and the X-Men was nice. I haven't looked at this title since that garbage first arc with Future Quentin Quire. What happened in the latest one?
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Oct 16, 2014 10:00
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Saoshyant posted:I haven't looked at this title since that garbage first arc with Future Quentin Quire. What happened in the latest one? The love interest from Aaron's Wolverine run is writing a biography.
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Oct 16, 2014 11:50
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Knucklebear posted:I really wish that Marvel would make a one character per book rule. I know that it won't happen because of money but a boy can dream...
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Oct 16, 2014 13:22
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DynamicSloth posted:There is really no reason to be reading DC or Marvel comic books if you don't get the appeal of a shared universe. I understand that, but I also understand how that can be frustrating. I think you can justify multiple ongoings if they are truly unique takes on the character. I know the Spider-books, when they have multiple ongoings, usually have certain plots, supporting cast, etc... only appearing in one title so that the other title does its own thing with its own set of characters and what not. I think what has gotten to me more lately, and this is especially true with Bendis' X-verse stuff, is the overuse of the same villains. Mystique is everything and everywhere. Sabretoothe too. And Sabretoothe has had like a bunch of status quo changes that seem to be forgotten about even in recent memory. Didn't Cornell make Sabretoothe the leader of the Hand or something? And now he's back to being a henchman for Mystique.
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Oct 16, 2014 14:18
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notthegoatseguy posted:I think what has gotten to me more lately, and this is especially true with Bendis' X-verse stuff, is the overuse of the same villains. Mystique is everything and everywhere. Sabretoothe too. And Sabretoothe has had like a bunch of status quo changes that seem to be forgotten about even in recent memory. Didn't Cornell make Sabretoothe the leader of the Hand or something? And now he's back to being a henchman for Mystique. Yeah but pretty much nobody acknowledged that. Hell, pretty much nobody acknowledged anything from Cornell other than "Wolverine loses healing factor".
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Oct 16, 2014 15:30
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So...Magneto this week. I think this was the issue I've liked the least, mostly due to it being a poorly though tie in to AXIS. I like the idea of Magneto assembling a team of villains but the roster seemed a bit random.
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Oct 16, 2014 15:41
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radlum posted:So...Magneto this week. I think this was the issue I've liked the least, mostly due to it being a poorly though tie in to AXIS. I like the idea of Magneto assembling a team of villains but the roster seemed a bit random. Carnage seems to be on the team just so they can write that "Carnage is a crazy hero" book afterwards, same with Hobgoblin. Doom makes sense, Loki makes sense, Mystique and Sabertooth also make sense but Enchantress, Absorbing Man and Deadpool are pretty random. I guess Enchantress is there because they needed another female on the team? Deadpool because he's Deadpool and why not? Absorbing Man because...he's been in the Marvel Agents of Shield tv show?
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PaybackJack posted:Carnage seems to be on the team just so they can write that "Carnage is a crazy hero" book afterwards, same with Hobgoblin. Doom makes sense, Loki makes sense, Mystique and Sabertooth also make sense but Enchantress, Absorbing Man and Deadpool are pretty random. I guess Enchantress is there because they needed another female on the team? Deadpool because he's Deadpool and why not? Absorbing Man because...he's been in the Marvel Agents of Shield tv show? Hobgoblin is there since they could not use Norman. However, having Norman there would make even less sense.
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Oct 16, 2014 16:12
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He knows the Sentinels aren't programmed to work on villains so he figured that if he recruits the most "What the hell?" group of them he has the best chance.
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Oct 16, 2014 16:19
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I get why Magneto, Loki, Mystique and Sabretooth are there. The rest of the team is very random. I mean, Absorbing Man was just in a couple of episodes of Agents of SHIELD, it's not like he is a featured villain from the films. Also, who is this Hobgoblin? Phil Urich? Kingsley? A random franchisee?
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Oct 16, 2014 16:34
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radlum posted:I get why Magneto, Loki, Mystique and Sabretooth are there. The rest of the team is very random. I mean, Absorbing Man was just in a couple of episodes of Agents of SHIELD, it's not like he is a featured villain from the films. It is Kingsley.
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Oct 16, 2014 16:36
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Magneto picked Absorbing Man because they're up against adamantium sentinels. I mean, just think about it for a second.
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Oct 16, 2014 16:59
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bobkatt013 posted:It is Kingsley. No one told Remender who has Jack O Lantern in Axis 2
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Oct 16, 2014 17:18
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I enjoyed Death of Wolverine. Not perfect, but it hd that nice Western feel about it. And of ways for Wolverine to die, I think it was pretty good way. Not the covered in Adamantium stuff. But dying to stop three other people from going through what he went through, and (depending on how you look at it) not killing the badguy. Wolverine has always about "Can Logan break the cycle of violence that has defined him his whole life." The answer at the end is "yes, he can." That's pretty neat.
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The Question IRL posted:I enjoyed Death of Wolverine. Not perfect, but it hd that nice Western feel about it. I totally got that aspect of it and I enjoyed it. In my opinon though it capped off almost 18 months of crappy Wolverine solo titles and I was just disappointed that they couldn't have come up with a better way to do it.
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SalTheBard posted:In my opinon though it capped off almost 18 months of crappy Wolverine solo titles In my opinion the sky is pretty fuckin' blue. To be fair I dropped it like a hot turd when it renumbered but that first "volume" where he lost the healing factor in the first place really redefined poo poo comics for me.
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Oct 18, 2014 01:13
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Diet Poison posted:In my opinion the sky is pretty fuckin' blue. I wish I had done the same.
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SalTheBard posted:I wish I had done the same. So do I but every month its everything else Cornell has done has been good, so maybe this will be a good issue. I then read the issue and regretted it. However, Death of Wolverine was not that bad, and left it open for a return.
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