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Twenty meter tall one hundred ton robots with lasers and missles and totenkopfs.
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Sep 20, 2016 05:24
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paragon1 posted:This problem, like all problems, can be solved with robots. I'm a fan of unskilled workers being puppeted around by their city's administrative AI via cortical implant, personally more cost-effective alternative to robots, at least until economies of scale kick in.
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Sep 20, 2016 05:25
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See, robots and AIs of all types are inherently untrustworthy. While you may let your AI cores run the day-to-day affairs of your estate, makes sure you keep several clones in cryostasis waking up periodically to sign the necessary papers.
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Sep 20, 2016 05:30
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Anyway perhaps traditional parenting can do an adequate job if some vast inhuman intelligence directs the parents' every move
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Sep 20, 2016 06:11
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Perhaps it would be more efficient to standardize all parents via state provided cybernetics? You don't have to put a ton of surveillance equipment in every shithouse in suburbia that way.
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Sep 20, 2016 06:16
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In my day you grew up with a vaguely humanoid, totally lifeless wire mesh for a father, and another wire mesh covered in soft fabric for a mother, and you liked it.
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Sep 20, 2016 06:19
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paragon1 posted:Perhaps it would be more efficient to standardize all parents via state provided cybernetics? You don't have to put a ton of surveillance equipment in every shithouse in suburbia that way. I mean, Central Admin AI Core could just install relatively crude virtual machinery in every parent's cortex and let that run, without needing to divert any processing power from its own tasks in the long term It would be pretty silly and inefficient if the AI core literally had to beam orders into people's heads all the time! PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Sep 20, 2016 |
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Sep 20, 2016 06:21
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The obvious answer is to privatize it. Businesses can bid on babies and raise them however they see fit. Parents, being totally rational actors, will most certainly understand that the highest bidder wants to make a return on that investment and will have the child's best interests at heart. This is kinda what happened in Sweden and Finland in the decades before the world wars; local municipalities would hold auctions where they'd sell orphans, handicapped folks etc. to the households who'd agree to take them in for the lowest compensation. As you can imagine, especially in rural areas this led to a whole bunch of kids toiling in the fields in more-or-less-slavery.
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Sep 20, 2016 07:24
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wasn't the brave tarpman that got shot and martyred in oregon by those men w/ guns using a foster care strat like that on his farm
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Sep 20, 2016 08:29
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paragon1 posted:Twenty meter tall one hundred ton robots with lasers and missles and totenkopfs. But wouldn't people raised in sterile loveless creches drive Clan mechs instead? die freebirth toad 
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Sep 20, 2016 14:54
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Woolie Wool posted:But wouldn't people raised in sterile loveless creches drive Clan mechs instead? The love of Dadlas is infinite. 
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Sep 20, 2016 15:52
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say no to scurvy posted:See, robots and AIs of all types are inherently untrustworthy. While you may let your AI cores run the day-to-day affairs of your estate, makes sure you keep several clones in cryostasis waking up periodically to sign the necessary papers. Isn't that the plot to Neuromancer? Jetting off to Low Earth Orbit where there are no laws to build your own libertarian casino space colony, complete with AI running the show and a set of clones of yourself to live in luxury (because no-one can stop you *In Space*) seems like the end goal of someone like Peter Thiel.
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Sep 20, 2016 16:38
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Woolie Wool posted:But wouldn't people raised in sterile loveless creches drive Clan mechs instead? paragon1 posted:The love of Dadlas is infinite. Could you please rephrase any references to garbage Sci-fi in the form of Warhammer 40k, TIA
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Sep 20, 2016 16:48
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Who What Now posted:Could you please rephrase any references to garbage Sci-fi in the form of Warhammer 40k, TIA Well see John Galt is like the adeptus mechanicus, he doesn't understand how anything works and he didn't build anything useful himself but he really likes hoarding poo poo and being a massive dickhead to anyone who doesn't let him do things his own way and who compromises his ARTISTIC VISION of putting skulls on everything. He survives because the ruling state endorses parts of his attitude but he doesn't actually get on very well with the state and thinks things would be much better if they didn't impose all these annoying rules on him to get him to actually contribute something to society.
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Sep 20, 2016 16:52
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Who What Now posted:Could you please rephrase any references to garbage Sci-fi in the form of Warhammer 40k, TIA But you repeat yourself
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Sep 20, 2016 16:53
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Who What Now posted:Could you please rephrase any references to garbage Sci-fi in the form of Warhammer 40k, TIA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZUeiuMOjt8
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Sep 20, 2016 18:07
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say no to scurvy posted:See, robots and AIs of all types are inherently untrustworthy. While you may let your AI cores run the day-to-day affairs of your estate, makes sure you keep several clones in cryostasis waking up periodically to sign the necessary papers. Hmm, are you suggesting we shouldn't Trust the Computer, citizen? Jack of Hearts posted:In my day you grew up with a vaguely humanoid, totally lifeless wire mesh for a father, and another wire mesh covered in soft fabric for a mother, and you liked it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G25mcmT1H0U
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Sep 20, 2016 18:17
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This is a new treasure for me and I thank you for it.
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Sep 20, 2016 21:25
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Doc Hawkins posted:This is a new treasure for me and I thank you for it. I feel my manly powers surging!
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Sep 21, 2016 03:58
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Man I'm bored. What are the Misers up to? https://mises.org/blog/are-libertarians-too-anti-pollution Pollution is just subjective, man.
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Sep 24, 2016 01:16
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Hmm yes, if we remove regulation, the people who can prove they were harmed by a specific polluter will just sue the polluter. This will work.
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Sep 24, 2016 02:20
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As long as our externalities is a speck of dust in 3^^^3 peopl's eyes nobody will call us on it
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Sep 24, 2016 04:16
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This is my personal favorite bit of libertarian madness http://volokh.com/2011/02/15/asteroid-defense-and-libertarianism/ an intense debate about if preventing giant asteroid from hitting the earth would justify raising taxes (the author thinks no). The best part is from the comments wherein one of the less crazy of the posters tries (unsuccessfully) to convince his fellow travelers that they should see the killer asteroid as a foreign power trying to impose a 100% tax on all property.
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Sep 24, 2016 04:17
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Captian Nuke posted:This is my personal favorite bit of libertarian madness http://volokh.com/2011/02/15/asteroid-defense-and-libertarianism/ an intense debate about if preventing giant asteroid from hitting the earth would justify raising taxes (the author thinks no). Isn't the asteroid violating the NAP?
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Sep 24, 2016 04:17
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Captian Nuke posted:
That's actually a neat idea in a worthless overcomplicated Rube Goldbergian sort of way.
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Sep 24, 2016 04:31
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paragon1 posted:That's actually a neat idea in a worthless overcomplicated Rube Goldbergian sort of way. It's so perfect. Because all constraints on your freedom have to come from personal coercion, that is how they have to model stopping the extinction of all life because of a rock ramming into the Earth.
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Sep 24, 2016 04:35
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Jazerus posted:Isn't the asteroid violating the NAP? Nope its a natural force, like a tree falling on you and we don't expect the government to do anything about that now do we? quote:But it’s not obvious to me that the Earth being hit by an asteroid (or, say, someone being hit by lightning or a falling tree) violates anyone’s rights; if that’s so, then I’m not sure I can justify preventing it through taxation. Note this is a summary of an actual argument about this issue Captian Nuke fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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Sep 24, 2016 04:40
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What are the odds that this is some undercover troll to discredit the whole thing?
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Sep 24, 2016 04:47
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GunnerJ posted:What are the odds that this is some undercover troll to discredit the whole thing? I wouldn't bet on it.
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Sep 24, 2016 04:56
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Captian Nuke posted:Nope its a natural force, like a tree falling on you and we don't expect the government to do anything about that now do we? Okay so if we send a dude in a rocket to the asteroid, can he homestead it and then declare war on the Earth, making the asteroid a valid target?
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Sep 24, 2016 05:50
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Captian Nuke posted:Nope its a natural force, like a tree falling on you and we don't expect the government to do anything about that now do we? It's an act of god, which means God is violating the NAP.
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Sep 24, 2016 05:56
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Jazerus posted:Okay so if we send a dude in a rocket to the asteroid, can he homestead it and then declare war on the Earth, making the asteroid a valid target? Earth ain't a person. No rights have been violated. NAP remains unbroken. 
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Sep 24, 2016 05:57
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Bill Gates is the driving force of the economy posted:The basic truths of economics are simple and require no difficult mathematics to understand... 
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Sep 24, 2016 08:06
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It's kind of like how you can argue that you're not violating the NAP when you shoot someone because you're not actually doing that person any harm by merely pulling a trigger, the fact that the trigger caused a chemical explosion that propelled a bullet out of a gun and into your flesh is immaterial. It also doesn't matter that I screamed "I AM GOING TO SHOOT YOU" right before pulling the trigger. Maybe you shouldn't stand in front of primed bullets, then accidents like this wouldn't happen.
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Sep 24, 2016 11:41
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According to the article I posted, the asteroid isn't a person you can sue, so no actual harm was done
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Sep 24, 2016 14:03
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Woolie Wool posted:The track record of institutional caregiving as a substitute for parents is pretty atrocious, though. To be fair, the history of parenting is only marginally better.
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Sep 24, 2016 15:06
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paragon1 posted:Earth ain't a person. No rights have been violated. NAP remains unbroken. No you see it's obvious people would put a bounty out on the asteroid and intrepid bounty hunters would develop directed energy weapons, nukes and the rockets to deliver them, or other means to divert the rock. They of course would then obviously not hold the world hostage with their ability to induce another calamity by diverting another rock into the path of Earth.
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Sep 24, 2016 21:08
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Well of course not that would violate the NAP! Who would violate the NAP? That's right, nobody.
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Sep 24, 2016 21:12
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So, let's imagine you have a large dataset of dating profiles, including Libertarians - essays and question responses from OkC. What strings would you test for (and why)? (I like big bytes and I cannot lie.) WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Sep 26, 2016 |
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Sep 24, 2016 22:29
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"strongly prefer" will bring back at least two questions that are good indices of deep-seated and possibly unrecognized racism. eta: OK, well that's from the text of the question itself. I'd say the set of answers to them might be useful but I doubt they'll be explained.
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