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Lord Twisted posted:Preferred enemy: Unpainted. Only rule to play by. This falls apart if the people in your group (or at least a critical mass of people in your group) aren't at a roughly similar level of experience, play skill, and free time.
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Yeah, I like the idea of that rule (and TheChirurgeon would love it, since he already only plays with painted mans), since it'd get me off my rear end and painting more, but one guy in our crew is real new at 40k, and he'd get boned real hard. EDIT: Also the other non-goon guy who sucks at 40k but has a commission-painted army probably shouldn't get advantages over ShadowDaishi, the aforementioned dude just starting out.
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Jan 30, 2015 16:14
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Give new players Preferred Enemy: Veteran Ham to go with it.
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Jan 30, 2015 16:19
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Give new players Preferred Enemy: Veteran Ham to go with it. I like this idea!
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Jan 30, 2015 16:21
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ANAmal.net posted:Yeah, I like the idea of that rule (and TheChirurgeon would love it, since he already only plays with painted mans), since it'd get me off my rear end and painting more, but one guy in our crew is real new at 40k, and he'd get boned real hard. It's a fine line to walk. On the one hand, I do like playing with painted mans and I want to encourage that, but I don't want to shut out Shadow Daishi from playing with more than 500 points in a game and I don't want our crew feeling like they have to rush to get stuff painted poorly and regret it later. I really like our current plan of meeting up and doing painting/assembly prior to gaming, where everyone can get in some time working on stuff and helping each other out.
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Jan 30, 2015 16:27
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Actually, I wonder if you could replicate the old Bretonnians VS Goblins intro game idea I got from White Dwarf and used to great success, where the veteran has the totally lolrandom bullshit army of weaklings and the new player gets the elite force of badasses. Which factions and lists would suit that best in 40k these days? For some reason more people ended up wanting to play Orcs and Goblins than Brets from those games, mind you...
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Jan 30, 2015 16:30
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Orcs vs Marines. Duh.
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Jan 30, 2015 16:32
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Actually, I wonder if you could replicate the old Bretonnians VS Goblins intro game idea I got from White Dwarf and used to great success, where the veteran has the totally lolrandom bullshit army of weaklings and the new player gets the elite force of badasses. Which factions and lists would suit that best in 40k these days? a huge mass of idiots with dumb gimmicks completing tasks in spite of itself, not because of, will always be more interesting than Guys Who Are Actually Good At Things
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Jan 30, 2015 16:38
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TheChirurgeon posted:I really like our current plan of meeting up and doing painting/assembly prior to gaming, where everyone can get in some time working on stuff and helping each other out. I like it because you always end up grabbing one of my lovely models and touching up the paint. 
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Jan 30, 2015 16:42
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Hra Mormo posted:Orcs vs Marines. Duh. I initially thought of that, but what made the old goblin thing so much fun was stuff like Animosity failing me at absolutely critical moments. So I was thinking Tyranids with too little Synapse or similar.
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Jan 30, 2015 16:55
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I should preface that we do preferred enemy: unpainted if there is no progress with the force. AKA if you just got those new assault marines, fine. But if 3 games later they're still unprimed...
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Jan 30, 2015 17:10
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So here's the 1500 30k Alpha Legion starter army I've come up with. I plan on using it in some test games with my friends. I think one of them is going Imperial Fists and the other is doing Death Guard. Here's the list: Legion Praetor w/ artificer armor, paragon blade, power dagger, iron halo, venom spheres (attached to terminators) 2 Apothecaries (attached to each tac squad) Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought w/ 2 kheres assault cannons 5-man Terminator Squad w/ power axes, power fist+power dagger on sgt, these guys are in tartaros 15-man Tactical Squad w/ legion vexilla, combi-plasma on sgt 15-man Tactical Squad w/ legion vexilla, combi-plasma on sgt 5-man Seeker Squad w/ banestrike bolts Javelin Attack Speeder w/ TL cyclone missiles, heavy bolter (outflanking) Sicaran tank w/ lascannon sponsons I'd be taking Infiltrate and using it with everyone. While I'd love to use the Alpha Legion rite to steal some Mor Deythan snipers, I don't feel like paying for a 3rd troops unit at this game size.
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Jan 30, 2015 17:16
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Rulebook Heavily posted:I initially thought of that, but what made the old goblin thing so much fun was stuff like Animosity failing me at absolutely critical moments. So I was thinking Tyranids with too little Synapse or similar. 50 hormagaunts and 50 Termagants led by Old One Eye and one unit of Warriors. Make it Hive Fleet Leviathan so at least they get a reroll for their leadership check. No ObSec though. 
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Jan 30, 2015 17:16
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Give new players Preferred Enemy: Veteran Ham to go with it. Oh man, we normally disagree, but I think this is an incredible idea. 
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Jan 30, 2015 17:28
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I actually enjoy Escalation paint games, it gets you more motivated to paint. Start off at 250 and then go up to 1500. That was the only way I got all of my Chaos Space Marines painted. We did no Force Org, so what ever you wanted to paint was fine to bring as long as it was with in the point limits. Miniature swapping is a good way to get motivated to, swap some miniatures with your buddy you paint his he paints yours.
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Jan 30, 2015 17:34
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Paint days are awesome. Hanging out with a bunch of your ham buddies, painting models, ordering a pizza, whatever, it's just a lot more fun with other folks. There's guys in my group who pretty much only paint on said painting days. I'm gonna try to get a combat patrol-esque game in with a buddy of mine in this weekend. I'm talking sentries, limited visibility, blips, sabotaging objectives, the whole shebang. Let's see how many 4th ed back-of-the-book rules I remember.
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Jan 30, 2015 17:39
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SRM posted:Paint days are awesome. Hanging out with a bunch of your ham buddies, painting models, ordering a pizza, whatever, it's just a lot more fun with other folks. There's guys in my group who pretty much only paint on said painting days. This works really well for people who get easily distracted when painting. Particularly if you're doing boring grunts. Great way to bash out big squads without noticing it.
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Jan 30, 2015 17:50
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SRM posted:Paint days are awesome. Hanging out with a bunch of your ham buddies, painting models, ordering a pizza, whatever, it's just a lot more fun with other folks. There's guys in my group who pretty much only paint on said painting days. That's how we are painting our city table. It's more productive and, like you say, way more fun. Especially for a project which would be utterly soul-destroying otherwise.
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Jan 30, 2015 18:01
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SRM posted:Paint days are awesome. Hanging out with a bunch of your ham buddies, painting models, ordering a pizza, whatever, it's just a lot more fun with other folks. There's guys in my group who pretty much only paint on said painting days. Yeah, this is the way to do things I think. Before we started testing house rules, this was more fun than actually playing. Rapey Joe Stalin posted:That's how we are painting our city table. It's more productive and, like you say, way more fun. Especially for a project which would be utterly soul-destroying otherwise. Yeah I'd have never finished my table without help from Shadow Daishi. Just a ton of time and energy to get that thing to a playable state.
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Jan 30, 2015 18:23
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Hey, I'm trying to add more colour to me Necrons, and I think tiny insects and bugs on the bases would be a good way of "sneaking" some colour in. Does anyone know of any Base manufactures (32mm) that have like maybe some scenic bases that include bugs or maybe someone who makes really tiny bugs and animals for 25mm? Did a search for 5mm and 10mm bugs they'd be a little bit bigger but thought I'd ask.
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Jan 30, 2015 18:33
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Just don't paint your Necrons silver and there will be plenty of ways to add in color on the model.
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Jan 30, 2015 18:39
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REAL MUSCLE MILK posted:Just don't paint your Necrons silver and there will be plenty of ways to add in color on the model. I have them painted white actually. Well pearl white that I got from reaper and is almost a "metallic" white paint, dry brushed onto a more skull bone white. I'm planning to go back with a Bick Metallic Gold Pencil and use that for some gold highlights on the edges. I'm looking now at maybe doing some multicoloured sand. It sounds all fancy fancy but it's a pretty simple paint job actually. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jan 30, 2015 |
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Jan 30, 2015 18:48
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:That's how we are painting our city table. It's more productive and, like you say, way more fun. Especially for a project which would be utterly soul-destroying otherwise. Ugh. I have 4 of the 6 Forge World city sections, and in the last year have only finished one of them. The rest of my city is all bare resin and plastic.
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Jan 30, 2015 20:46
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DJ Dizzy posted:with Gjost Arks being cheaper, are they worth running with 10 warriors? Im thinking 20 warriors and 2 arks for 1500 pts. If you're running them in a Combined Arms detachment, Ghost Arks are really good. Both they and the Warriors get Objective Secured and it throws out 20 (or occasionally 30, if you're lucky) Gauss shots per turn.
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I for one would much rather get a tour of the Miniatures Factory and watch the other contestants succumb to their own vices while scrunts sing songs about them. Entry fee is a $65 direct order, and there will only be 5 of these? That's a hell of a thing.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:15
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I mean, that's like two boxes of Marines.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:26
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eBay and SA-Mart have ruined my perspective, man.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:29
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OhDearGodNo posted:I didn't have any trouble with gluing and only dropped one ball thing on the floor. Eventually found it though. What up wraith buddy, here are mine! First non imperial models ever, really.     Bases will be worked on a bit later.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:34
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Wraiths are so drat cool looking.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:35
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Incidentally, Warhammer TV's overlord painting guide shows a good way of handling edge highlights. Your wraiths are awesome Lord Twisted, but they'd be ever better with neater lines.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:38
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Lord Twisted posted:What up wraith buddy, here are mine! First non imperial models ever, really. Those actually look as easy to tip over as the old ones/zoanthropes.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:39
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Actually they're surprisingly stable. Pretty well designed with the tails. Thanks for the painting guide! Will have to have a look. I've never actually looked at any guides, all trial and error to this point haha.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:44
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I don't need more miniatures. I already have more than I can ever reasonably use. My housing decisions must take account of sufficient storage space for boxes of models and bitz.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:52
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Lord Twisted posted:Actually they're surprisingly stable. Pretty well designed with the tails. That's good to know, was worried I'd have to dig out my fishing weights.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:57
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I stopped by my LGS on the way home today and he had the new Necron stuff out. Twenty-eight United States Dollars for that new warscythe overlord model. Twenty-loving-eight dollars for a single model.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:12
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I don't know where I'd put 7 feet of boxes of Warhams stuff, but damned if I wouldn't love to have it.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:13
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Lord Twisted posted:What up wraith buddy, here are mine! First non imperial models ever, really. Your balls look so much better than mine. I need to work on shading some.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:16
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koreban posted:I stopped by my LGS on the way home today and he had the new Necron stuff out. Twenty-eight United States Dollars for that new warscythe overlord model. Twenty-loving-eight dollars for a single model. The Annihilation Barge kit is, what, like $7 more and comes with an entire vehicle. Their single-pose plastic models are fantastically bad value.
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That contest is going to make me buy a Toxicrene isn't it. $80CDN is the minimum amount for entry, Toxicrene is $88.
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