Silver2195 posted:Apparently Re:Zero is really popular pretty much everywhere: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2016/12/29-1/feature-crunchyrolls-most-popular-anime-of-2016-by-country Because Re:Zero managed to out-normie Jojo
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Is "normie" now the accepted translation for "reajuu" or whatever?
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Dec 30, 2016 22:21
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PerrineClostermann posted:Is "normie" now the accepted translation for "reajuu" or whatever? it's either that or normal___s so I'll take it over 4chans casual slurring
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Dec 30, 2016 22:56
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Re:Zero is good, that's my opinion.
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Dec 30, 2016 22:59
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Rem and Shinobu are basically the same character. They're both paper thin waifs with no input once they lose relevance whose sole purpose after that is to pine over the person they love, a person who they don't actually know very well at all despite thinking otherwise, so it's a wash. Araki just didn't make a good 10 episodes worth of content about Shinobu. Did you watch the final few seconds of the season?
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Dec 30, 2016 23:33
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"normie" was useful when it described people who hadn't seen anything but stuff on cartoon network five years ago but it's kinda played out now
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Dec 31, 2016 01:34
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"normie" as used in anime refers to people who actually interact with the real, normal world on a somewhat regular basis.
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Dec 31, 2016 05:27
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Which one is Shinobu again? I feel like at least Rem manages to have consistent agency while also generally hasn't required much in the way of rescuing by powerless Subaru; while Right now there aren't harem aspects beyond some faint idea that is Subaru pushed the right buttons and raised the right flags maybe he can get Duke girl to fall for him but none of the other characters have shown any indication of falling for him aside from his Dragon mount. It takes a *long* and well paced amount of time before Subaru actually earns himself the right to call himself a hero in an adventure high fantasy story and took glee in ruining his loving day each day he didn't and all the times he appeared to have success were really all kinds of illusory in nature because each step forward just increases the chances of dying horribly.
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Dec 31, 2016 05:39
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Did you watch the final few seconds of the season? Oh poo poo a few seconds of a 24 episode show changes everything about its overall quality.
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Dec 31, 2016 09:01
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Rem and Shinobu are basically the same character. They're both paper thin waifs with no input once they lose relevance whose sole purpose after that is to pine over the person they love, a person who they don't actually know very well at all despite thinking otherwise, so it's a wash. Araki just didn't make a good 10 episodes worth of content about Shinobu. Who the gently caress is this Rem? I dont know shinobu either I think you have gotten the wrong show here
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Dec 31, 2016 09:25
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Oh poo poo a few seconds of a 24 episode show changes everything about its overall quality. I liked Re:Zero, but I tend to agree with you on your overall point. That said, the presence or absence of a few seconds (say, a kiss scene or a love confession) seems to play heavily in the impressions of many people here with regard to many shows. If a show can be ruined for the absence of a 3 second kiss, does the presence of said 3 second kiss not thereby save the show?
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Dec 31, 2016 09:32
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No, because no one thing is ever defined by a single moment. It would be ruined by the writing as a whole throughout the show which would allow or disallow such a thing from happening. It'd be symptomatic throughout the whole thing rather than just a small snippet of time.
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Dec 31, 2016 09:38
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Raenir Salazar posted:Right now there aren't harem aspects beyond some faint idea that is Subaru pushed the right buttons and raised the right flags maybe he can get Duke girl to fall for him but none of the other characters have shown any indication of falling for him aside from his Dragon mount. Eh, it's pretty clear that at the very least Rem and Emilia are romantically interested in him. Which doesn't bother me too much in and of itself, though I really dislike Rem's whole "it's okay if you love someone else as long as you let me keep loving you thing" thing. If you're going to have a character be romantically interested in the protagonist, at least have them be somewhat realistic about it and either get upset or move on if they choose someone else. I understand the point of this trope (so the protagonist, who is an audience surrogate to some extent, can continue to enjoy the ego boost of having multiple girls interested in them), but it still kinda sucks.
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Dec 31, 2016 10:11
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Oh poo poo a few seconds of a 24 episode show changes everything about its overall quality. Ytlaya posted:Eh, it's pretty clear that at the very least Rem and Emilia are romantically interested in him. Which doesn't bother me too much in and of itself, though I really dislike Rem's whole "it's okay if you love someone else as long as you let me keep loving you thing" thing. If you're going to have a character be romantically interested in the protagonist, at least have them be somewhat realistic about it and either get upset or move on if they choose someone else. I understand the point of this trope (so the protagonist, who is an audience surrogate to some extent, can continue to enjoy the ego boost of having multiple girls interested in them), but it still kinda sucks.
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Dec 31, 2016 14:37
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Dark Off posted:Who the gently caress is this Rem? I dont know shinobu either Her name is Lemu, and she has a sister named Lamu.
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Dec 31, 2016 16:43
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Ytlaya posted:Eh, it's pretty clear that at the very least Rem and Emilia are romantically interested in him. Which doesn't bother me too much in and of itself, though I really dislike Rem's whole "it's okay if you love someone else as long as you let me keep loving you thing" thing. If you're going to have a character be romantically interested in the protagonist, at least have them be somewhat realistic about it and either get upset or move on if they choose someone else. I understand the point of this trope (so the protagonist, who is an audience surrogate to some extent, can continue to enjoy the ego boost of having multiple girls interested in them), but it still kinda sucks. Two people interesting in the protagonist I don't think really makes it meaningfully a harem title; insofar as the associated negative aspects of the genre matter. Here Subaru is pretty single mindedly interested in Emilia, he acknowledges Rem, and Rem has had a chance to make her feelings known, etc, this is like, completely anemtha to the "Will they or won't they?" to the premise of most harem schlock. Basically the characters act in much more plausibly human ways.
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Dec 31, 2016 16:51
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Ytlaya posted:Eh, it's pretty clear that at the very least Rem and Emilia are romantically interested in him. Which doesn't bother me too much in and of itself, though I really dislike Rem's whole "it's okay if you love someone else as long as you let me keep loving you thing" thing. If you're going to have a character be romantically interested in the protagonist, at least have them be somewhat realistic about it and either get upset or move on if they choose someone else. I understand the point of this trope (so the protagonist, who is an audience surrogate to some extent, can continue to enjoy the ego boost of having multiple girls interested in them), but it still kinda sucks. But... Rem both got upset at being rejected, which was a super clear rejection, and despite saying she'd accept his decision gracefully, she's still pinning for Subaru. She's still pinning really hard for him. Rem's the type that's extremely devoted to the people she loves (those at the Roswaal mansion), so stuff like that thing with becoming a second wife is her way of coping with the situation: "It'd be wrong if Rem got between Subaru-kun and Emilia-sama... but if they both agreed to Rem being his mistress, then it'd be okay, yes?" because she so desperately wants to get something out of her relationship with Subaru. The way she manipulated a confession out of him after the White Whale battle was really dirty, too. Rem isn't just some waif who innocently wishes for her beloved to be happy: she's an obsessive person with self-worth issues among many others, so she's going for it in an unorthodox way, but she's loving doing it. Or was, at least. tl;dr at a glance it seems a cute and harmless way to solve the love triangle, but no, it's just another example of how obsessive Rem is
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Dec 31, 2016 18:33
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Conspiratiorist posted:But... Rem both got upset at being rejected, which was a super clear rejection, and despite saying she'd accept his decision gracefully, she's still pinning for Subaru. She's still pinning really hard for him. Awww man. I would've loved this. I love flawed characters.
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Dec 31, 2016 18:38
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Who is Rem?
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Dec 31, 2016 19:41
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Conspiratiorist posted:The way she manipulated a confession out of him after the White Whale battle was really dirty, too. Rem isn't just some waif who innocently wishes for her beloved to be happy: she's an obsessive person with self-worth issues among many others, so she's going for it in an unorthodox way, but she's loving doing it. This could be taken in a very interesting direction (having Rem's self-worth issues and the fact that is so emotionally dependent upon Subaru end up being a negative thing later), though it's hard to say if that's actually going to happen yet (especially given what happened at the end of this season).
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Jan 1, 2017 04:09
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I remembered Doctor Tot, you can't make me forget Rem  Conspiratiorist posted:tl;dr at a glance it seems a cute and harmless way to solve the love triangle, but no, it's just another example of how obsessive Rem is It's kind of an interesting mirror to how Subaru was with Emilia too, what with how obsessively he was attempting to pursue her interests. I'm betting that one of the minor motif's for Re:Zero as a whole is how messed up Love can be, because that analysis immediately reminded me of Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer. Where Love not only fuels the cosmos but also drives people to break oaths, commit atrocious deeds and suffer for them.
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Jan 1, 2017 05:05
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I don't know myself since I'm only following the Anime, but didn't someone who reads the novels point out that the Anime cut a part where Subaru outright points out how obsessed Rem is with him and how unhealthy it is? While not realising that he's just as bad with Emilia, of course.
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Jan 1, 2017 05:19
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Blaze Dragon posted:I don't know myself since I'm only following the Anime, but didn't someone who reads the novels point out that the Anime cut a part where Subaru outright points out how obsessed Rem is with him and how unhealthy it is? That happened, yeah. Anime Rem is kinda toned down in general, TBH. There's no mistaking Book Rem for a healthy person who isn't weirdly obsessive and stalkerish at all.
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Jan 1, 2017 18:16
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Silver2195 posted:Also, apparently the Jojo anime thread hates Re:Zero for some reason.
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Jan 1, 2017 18:59
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That's rude to say about Jojo posters
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Jan 1, 2017 19:06
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a kitten posted:That's rude to say about Jojo posters 
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Jan 1, 2017 20:05
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Jackard posted:Maybe its the lovely characters drat, dude. Don't need to be so rude. They aren't lovely. They're just kind of stupid all the time, but it's part of the charm. Like how Subaru fucks everything up around him and it's by virtue of having time reset that he can even attempt to make things work, but even then, his dipstick nature still ruins his checkpoints. I mean, no one's perfect.
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Jan 1, 2017 20:06
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Reminder that Rem killed Subaru, behind everyone's backs, because she found him suspicious and couldn't stand that nobody was doing anything about him. Twice.Blaze Dragon posted:I don't know myself since I'm only following the Anime, but didn't someone who reads the novels point out that the Anime cut a part where Subaru outright points out how obsessed Rem is with him and how unhealthy it is? He notices her shift in attitude, and figures that she must've filled in with him whatever hole was left in her from letting go of the burden of replacing the "ideal" Ram. He doesn't think it's healthy, but also figures she'll grow out of it with time and that it's more important she gets to relax and be herself. Little did he know...
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Jan 1, 2017 20:14
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Conspiratiorist posted:Reminder that Rem killed Subaru, behind everyone's backs, because she found him suspicious and couldn't stand that nobody was doing anything about him. Twice. That's a take I didn't see before. 
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Jan 1, 2017 21:26
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Raenir Salazar posted:That's a take I didn't see before. There's another take? Maybe she chased him down and slaughtered him on accident.
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Jan 2, 2017 00:53
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The Unholy Ghost posted:There's another take? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiTNrSCH97k ?
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Jan 2, 2017 01:24
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The Unholy Ghost posted:There's another take? Doing it without orders. I assumed Roswald at least gave general "do my dirty business if you think it pressing."
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Jan 2, 2017 07:38
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It was behind the backs of both emilia and ram though, and I don't remember it being implied that roswall wanted subaru dead (though I did get the impression that if subaru turned up dead due to flail-inflicted trauma, roswall would have said "OK I trust your judgement rem")
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Jan 2, 2017 08:19
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The main reason she found Subaru suspicious was because he smelled of the witch. And, to be fair, smelling of the witch is probably generally a pretty accurate predictor of "is a bad guy", with Subaru just being an outlier.
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Jan 2, 2017 09:25
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Ytlaya posted:The main reason she found Subaru suspicious was because he smelled of the witch. And, to be fair, smelling of the witch is probably generally a pretty accurate predictor of "is a bad guy", with Subaru just being an outlier. Considering the witches cult detect it and assume he is an archbishop probably a good line of thought.
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Jan 4, 2017 21:09
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wjs5 posted:Considering the witches cult detect it and assume he is an archbishop probably a good line of thought. Yeah, and in addition I think that she (and I guess Ram also?) I think are the only ones in the mansion who can smell the witch's scent, so she probably felt like "this guy is bad news and no one else notices because they can't smell his scent." Granted, I'm not sure why her first response wouldn't be to just tell Roswaal (or did she? I can't remember). Though I can imagine Roswaal saying "eh let's see what happens" and her not being willing to take any chances because of how the witch cult killed her whole tribe or whatever. So basically what I'm saying is that it isn't really strange that Rem killed Subaru. What is a little hosed up is how she was totally cool with brutally killing this guy who was pleading for his life, even if she thought he was evil or whatever. I can imagine just hitting him with a single kill blow, but continuing to smash him up while he's still alive and be cold to it is kinda weird.
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Jan 4, 2017 21:32
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There's a somewhat interesting parallel that I never noticed before with emilia being distrusted by everyone due to association with the witch, and emilia's staff distrusting subaru due to association with the witch
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Jan 5, 2017 03:25
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Found this, was topical
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Jan 10, 2017 22:28
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That's cool, interesting turn around.
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In terms of reading up on translations for arc 4, should I go with Translation Chicken or the 4 chan chapter links ahead of the former?
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