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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Suez Canal is blocked by a grounded oil tanker per my AP alert. pics or it did happen https://twitter.com/YWNReporter/status/1565104213973254146?s=20&t=wtO029I339vym5Xx98i-Vg in other news: how do they plan to reconcile this with Backing the Blue https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1564964300166504448?s=20&t=eIi9-E618YjKTXufa49VpQ Kesper North fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Sep 1, 2022 |
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Sep 1, 2022 00:21
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bulletsponge13 posted:Try empanelling a jury. Okay.
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CainFortea posted:Okay. Trump supporters will 100% lie about their political orientation and prior behavior in order to get on the jury and save the day. Having a jury trial involving these kinds of delusional idiots is a pretty huge risk.
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Grip it and rip it posted:Trump supporters will 100% lie about their political orientation and prior behavior in order to get on the jury and save the day. Having a jury trial involving these kinds of delusional idiots is a pretty huge risk. So the way I see it, there's three potential outcomes here. 1) Trump doesn't get indicted. The rule of law is confirmed as pretend and democracy is dead. 2) Trump gets indicted. A trumper gets on the jury and keeps him from getting convicted. The rule of law is confirmed as pretend and democracy is dead. 3) Trump gets indicted. They manage to convict him, he goes to prison forever and maybe democracy gets to continue. The only way you get to #3 is by indicting him. Not indicting and failing to convict both arrive at the same place. I am, however, a big dumb idiot, so... ZombieApostate fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Sep 1, 2022 |
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Sep 1, 2022 00:48
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bahahahahaha https://twitter.com/JacobRubashkin/status/1565128259003719681 thank you sarah palin (the Nick Begich voters split for the Democrat in ranked choice)
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https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1565128996559507458?s=21&t=0T9jfCIHq2HYQ5FHtXiLIQGrip it and rip it posted:Trump supporters will 100% lie about their political orientation and prior behavior in order to get on the jury and save the day. Having a jury trial involving these kinds of delusional idiots is a pretty huge risk. Good luck finding a Trump supporter in DC or one that can’t be picked out easily.
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Platystemon posted:https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1565007006443995138 Joke's on them, no one wants to be alive when the collapse comes anyways.
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facialimpediment posted:bahahahahaha Holy poo poo, I was avoiding looking at this out of fear of more Palin. Apparently the ship is moving again, under tow: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/ship-runs-aground-egypts-suez-canal-sources-2022-08-31/
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facialimpediment posted:bahahahahaha I saw this floating around Twitter a few days ago and thought theres no way republicans would only get < 20 states if we moved to ranked choice. https://twitter.com/tylerbowyer/status/1564459685909970944?s=20&t=awLY0LMBrq9XbJhRzDfYsg Maybe the RNC idiot was actually correct.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1565128996559507458?s=21&t=0T9jfCIHq2HYQ5FHtXiLIQ https://twitter.com/nick_ramsey/status/1565129199194701826?t=i0FM8y-aX6jnNJRLz00umg&s=19 https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1565129860099452930?t=MJm2yFqAp36rQjW1vRjLUg&s=19 I was reading through it, and stopped quickly because it felt like I was reading Donnie and there were very few actual legal citations or references to caselaw.
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facialimpediment posted:I was reading through it, and stopped quickly because it felt like I was reading Donnie and there were very few actual legal citations or references to caselaw. The Law is just made up so why put in any effort
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Hey German man https://twitter.com/berlin_bridge/status/1564924125705125891?t=wvhLIIjB31dgthv6Zr6MUg&s=19 Thoughts, comments, queries?
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Nick Soapdish posted:The Law is just made up so why put in any effort Usually when the refs can be bought off, they demand money and can only shave a few points. Donnie's demanding five touchdowns, a hit by pitch, and an intentional walk, all for the cost of $0 because he appointed the ref.
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CommieGIR posted:I love that Trump has basically become a graveyard for legal careers. Great legal minds who seem to think that hitching themselves up to the Trump train is going to make their careers fully unaware of what a nuclear waste site it is.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Hey German man That's honestly just a clickbait take. To pretend that two econ ministry officials had even remotely the same or more lobbying influencer than, say, a former chancellor salivating two inches shy of Putin's dick is just some clout-goblin bullshit. Also, Jessica may have BERLIN as her last name, but anyone who claims the Verfassungsschutz is the "🇩🇪 FBI" is full of poo poo. 
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Grip it and rip it posted:Trump supporters will 100% lie about their political orientation and prior behavior in order to get on the jury and save the day. Having a jury trial involving these kinds of delusional idiots is a pretty huge risk. Do you think there is never any research done on jurors in big cases?
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Duzzy Funlop posted:That's honestly just a clickbait take. To pretend that two econ ministry officials had even remotely the same or more lobbying influencer than, say, a former chancellor salivating two inches shy of Putin's dick is just some clout-goblin bullshit. OK gently caress Jessica but is there any truth to it?
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Bored As gently caress posted:The Standardized Field Sobriety Tests are, when administered properly with the correct wording and instructions, scientific and actually do work to indicate no-BS clues of alcohol caused impairment, for people who are less than 50lbs overweight. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration spent years developing it. I basically get where you're coming from, but again: PDs have the budgets of small militaries, but no money to calibrate breathalyzers in squad cars regularly? At the end of the day, this still foregoes having an objective test result from an unbiased device in favor of Johnny Hoglet testifying that someone was drunk and his opinion was pinky-promise not influenced by any form of bias/racism/incompetence/donuts/etc. That requires a level of trust in LEOs that i do not have in TYOOL 2022.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I basically get where you're coming from, but again: PDs have the budgets of small militaries, but no money to calibrate breathalyzers in squad cars regularly? NYPD has a bigger budget than Ukrainian military iirc
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I've finally put my finger on the Trump legal strategy. https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1565155656654409728 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HzFszONReo&t=164s oops, all witnesses/lawyers/indictees!
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:OK gently caress Jessica but is there any truth to it? In so far as two officials are being investigated by the Verfassungsschutz? Sure, absolutely. But the claim of the article that this is "explosive" is hilarious, considering the suspicion of espionage stemmed from the two officials "being of suspiciously pro-russian opinion regarding their stances/recommendatios towards Nordstream 2, Gazprom Germania and having close personal ties with Russian officials". That's, like, beyond comedy considering the last 20 years and current events. 2/10 Schröders, would not treason for pay
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That Works posted:For people who never see / know anything about these kinds of documents can y'all unpack it a bit more? I know it's bad but seeing lots of people reacting strongly to this photo and curious why. To add to what others said, all of the stuff that is TS/SCI had to be signed for. They knew 100% he had it. If he was not the person who signed for the documents then the person who did sign is in deep poo poo along with hopefully donny dumper as well. Chain of custody on anything above regular SECRET (which would be things like SECRET - CODEWORD after it) is taken very seriously.
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Yea I bet they(donnie/donnies office) just did some absurdly brazen poo poo like printed or photocopied them, lol. No big deal 
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ded posted:To add to what others said, all of the stuff that is TS/SCI had to be signed for. They knew 100% he had it. If he was not the person who signed for the documents then the person who did sign is in deep poo poo along with hopefully donny dumper as well. Chain of custody on anything above regular SECRET (which would be things like SECRET - CODEWORD after it) is taken very seriously. It’s actually, counterintuitively, the other way around now. Collateral Top Secret material is logged and accounted for by a TSCO (Top Secret Control Officer) and dealt with as you describe. SCI is routinely handled and dealt with inside of SCIF’s in a manner somewhat similar to how collateral secret is in a secure area. You don’t have to sign for SCI documents inside a SCIF, there’s no routine physical paper trail or auditing of the viewing of most categories of SCI documents. There is for some SAP’s, and for collateral Top Secret, and cryptographic material. Not so much 99% of SCI. I know, seems goofy. Almost everyone with a TS clearance also has SCI access of some form or another. However it’s a very limited number of people who are exposed to/deal with collateral Top Secret. Nuke Emergency War Orders are collateral Top Secret for instance. You just very rarely see collateral TS outside nukes, subs, and some SOF. LtCol J. Krusinski fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Sep 1, 2022 |
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Caveat- I have no loving clue what the logging of poo poo that goes before POTUS is. I’m just talking about routine handling.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:It’s actually, counterintuitively, the other way around now. Collateral Top Secret material is logged and accounted for by a TCO (Top Secret Control Officer) and dealt with as you describe. The amount of secret documents that have been brought to that area is going to land every other associated person with that building/Trump/who was there during the time of the raid in deeper poo poo. Discovery of those secret documents will put everybody there and has been there the past few weeks into intense questioning/investigating on whether or not they have seen it, or read it. I can't imagine the scale of damage control the agencies need to do now to figure how many people may have seen/read it who clearly did not have a 'need to know'
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CabooseRvB posted:The amount of secret documents that have been brought to that area is going to land every other associated person with that building/Trump/who was there during the time of the raid in deeper poo poo. Oh no doubt. Those FBI agents had to get read into a bunch of SCI compartments and SAP’s that they otherwise would never have to be. Of course it was a read-in after exposure, but it keeps things nice and legal. The fact that they’re still requiring read-in for anyone to see the material shows you how much water Trumps “blanket” declassification holds with the DOJ. Learned about those post facto read ins on public radio this afternoon.
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What sort of stuff would be expected to be in one of those documents? Exact US missile sub patrols? Names of highly placed informants in China? NSA capabilities?
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Learned about those post facto read ins on public radio this afternoon. jesus tapdancing christ what agent would dare open those folders on scene though?
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Leave posted:Does Cheeto's legal team realize any of those implications? about as good a chance they realize that as they realize how much they'll actually be paid. unless they're doing it for exposure and like, I mean...what the gently caress, just what in the gently caress FPOTUS did a ntional security breach of epic proportions why would you go defend them just amazing
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Hyrax Attack! posted:What sort of stuff would be expected to be in one of those documents? Exact US missile sub patrols? Names of highly placed informants in China? NSA capabilities? I mean as far as I can remember, TS is the highest level of classification apart from like, the poo poo that most people don't know even exists, so potentially anything you could think of. My only experience with something like this was like, finding out someone overseas had lost a sheet of radio freqs, so all 5 eyes countries using them had to change them out. And that would be on the extremely low end of a fuckup scale.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:jesus tapdancing christ An agent confirming the contents haven't been replaced with pages of a 1991 Sears wishbook catalog.
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Yeah.. they have a form of need to know. The read ins are just to keep things nice and tidy on the legal side, as they’re going to need continued access to the materials, and context about them, in the conduct of their investigation and damage assessment. I think a lot of folks forget the FBI is our nations Counter Intelligence agency as well. They’ll be the ones figuring out almost all of The Who/what/when/where/why of this, and the CI implications therein. This… this is what the fuckening looks like.
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