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Rolo posted:REAPER is already doing exactly what I was looking for and more, thanks for recommending it! Guess I'm gonna buy it when my license comes due. Generally, don't use the mic in for line level output, which is what's coming out of your PO. If you want to do it up right, get yourself a USB sound card, which will record less of the computer's internal electrical noise. That potentially opens up a whole can of worms but for what you are doing now, you can get a cheap M-Audio for like < $50. You'll need the USB cord and adapter cables, which are < $10. But you can still have plenty of fun just using the line in on your box right now. To reiterate, you don't need to buy a USB sound card. You may want to later but to answer your question, use the line in. petit choux fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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Rolo posted:REAPER is already doing exactly what I was looking for and more, thanks for recommending it! Guess I'm gonna buy it when my license comes due. Your computer will boost the input of the mic input assuming it's an unamplified signal. That boost on most consumer computers is generally an unflattering sounding amplification. Line-in treats the input as-is, assuming you're using it for something that has already been amplified (to line level, hence the name) before hitting the input. Even if your signal isn't amplified, recording through Line-in and hitting normalize in a DAW after the fact will usually sound better than going through the mic input. They will usually both be stereo.
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Thanks for the line-in chat, I figured something was different in the input signal between the ports but never knew what. Got my po35 Speak in today and I'm having a harder time than I was hoping getting the mic to pull voices from anything. Even when I talk directly into it it's barely legible. Might be a bad mic or me just expecting too much but I'm thinking about taking it as a sign and swapping clean for a 33 KO. If I really want to tweak voices I could just do it on something else and send it to the 33 anyways, plus it seems like something I could use to sample beats from old vinyl, which sounds fun.
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Jul 26, 2021 21:41
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toadee posted:Looks like Behringer are cloning an Aphex Twin staple https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-adds-the-pearl-syncussion-sy-1-to-their-growing-list-of-prototypes/ Sick. I love the syncussion, this would be an instabuy for me
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This a toss up between a pedal or synth thread question but has anyone looked into the Soma Cosmos? It's an interesting kind of looper/delay thing that is like instant ambient. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4DnMpmd3HU Is there any other similar pedals that would work for synths? I know about the Chase Bliss but it doesn't seem to be quite the same to me.
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Rolo posted:I came here 2.5 years ago to ask about pocket operators and ended up with a PO20 Arcade. I think I picked an awesome starter. at some point in time you will want a nice synth. nice synths aren't necessarily super expensive. my first nice synth was a tg-77, it cost around $400 back in 2003 or 2004 which was a huge sum back when I was making minimum wage. adjusted for inflation it's still not a trivial amount of money even now that I'm labor aristocracy. the moral though is that, other than the rm1x which I picked up a year or two later, it's been diminishing returns since then. if you're piecemealing a setup together with pocket operators, it might be a better idea to just square away, like, $400-$600 and get a good groove box or an mpc or a workstation synth. you'll still be nagged by the inner voice of GAS but you can tell it to shut up because you have more than enough voices to make music
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Here is a quick demo of my ROLI apps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7KvD-Oi08U
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Rolo posted:REAPER is already doing exactly what I was looking for and more, thanks for recommending it! Guess I'm gonna buy it when my license comes due. one has an amp, the other doesn't. in theory the line in should be quieter but in practice I would be surprised if there's any difference between the two. also gently caress behringer, but these things are like $20 https://www.behringer.com/product.html?modelCode=P0A31
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The Voice of Labor posted:at some point in time you will want a nice synth. nice synths aren't necessarily super expensive. my first nice synth was a tg-77, it cost around $400 back in 2003 or 2004 which was a huge sum back when I was making minimum wage. adjusted for inflation it's still not a trivial amount of money even now that I'm labor aristocracy. the moral though is that, other than the rm1x which I picked up a year or two later, it's been diminishing returns since then. if you're piecemealing a setup together with pocket operators, it might be a better idea to just square away, like, $400-$600 and get a good groove box or an mpc or a workstation synth. you'll still be nagged by the inner voice of GAS but you can tell it to shut up because you have more than enough voices to make music GAS = Get Another Synth?
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If you insist Wavestate SE is gonna be tasty
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petit choux posted:GAS = Get Another Synth? gear acquisition syndrome so yeah
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A MIRACLE posted:If you insist Are they just gonna make better versions of all 3 of those synths? the modwave isn't even released yet edit: also with how close those were to a sound module form factor I was kinda hoping they would provide a sound module option, and uh this is the opposite of that brand engager fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jul 27, 2021 |
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Trig Discipline posted:Oh hey, Pigments is on sale for $99 again. Cheers, I missed the last sale and have been needing a good soft synth forever. Originally I was looking at Serum, but I think pigments has just as much potential as a workhorse.
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The Voice of Labor posted:at some point in time you will want a nice synth. nice synths aren't necessarily super expensive. my first nice synth was a tg-77, it cost around $400 back in 2003 or 2004 which was a huge sum back when I was making minimum wage. adjusted for inflation it's still not a trivial amount of money even now that I'm labor aristocracy. the moral though is that, other than the rm1x which I picked up a year or two later, it's been diminishing returns since then. if you're piecemealing a setup together with pocket operators, it might be a better idea to just square away, like, $400-$600 and get a good groove box or an mpc or a workstation synth. you'll still be nagged by the inner voice of GAS but you can tell it to shut up because you have more than enough voices to make music Yeah maybe. The unofficial plan is to play with the PO-33 and if I like it as intended return the 35. I love my Arcade and it’s never going anywhere, but I also wanted to dabble with more beat options and sampling. If it really sticks I may end up looking at real stuff at that point. What’s a good beginner synth if I want keys and a sequencer built in? Something like the Minilogue?
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Rolo posted:What’s a good beginner synth if I want keys and a sequencer built in? Something like the Minilogue? Casio WK-7600 
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Rolo posted:What’s a good beginner synth if I want keys and a sequencer built in? Something like the Minilogue? OP-1 aka the only synth I ever regretted selling
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Rolo posted:What’s a good beginner synth if I want keys and a sequencer built in? Something like the Minilogue? I started my synth journey with a MicroBrute and would happily start over there again if I had to. It’s a fantastic little synth and holds its ground against my Moog Grandmother. Unless something has changed the prices are very decent too.
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inferis posted:OP-1 aka the only synth I ever regretted selling I want one of those too seems perfect for travel
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all you syncussion freaks should just get an 01/IV
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So Math posted:Here is a quick demo of my ROLI apps. This was really cool. Thanks for sharing it.
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Mr. Sharps posted:all you syncussion freaks should just get an 01/IV don't tempt me!!!
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Mr. Sharps posted:all you syncussion freaks should just get an 01/IV oh god oh gently caress
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McCoy Pauley posted:This was really cool. Thanks for sharing it. Yes, second that. Been seeing these advertised for a long time. That was fun!
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I *REALLY* want an OP-1 but that's a lot of human currency for something I know will probably collect dust given how many other toys I have to play with. But even if I didn't, I know it's an amazing gadget but I have a hard time thinking it's $1200 good.
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Martytoof posted:I *REALLY* want an OP-1 but that's a lot of human currency for something I know will probably collect dust given how many other toys I have to play with. Look man if you want an OP-1, you loving want an OP-1. There’s no “$1200 good” to it. It’s not like a laser printer where you can work out your price per page and do some comparison shopping. It’s a musical instrument, a piece of art, it’s priceless to you or worthless. You know this, you know this in your heart. You feel bad because other people got it cheaper than you will. I understand. But I also understand, and you also understand, that there are people who get rocket ships for free, so if we start to catch ourselves thinking the sticker price for a product is some kind of score of how good we are at consuming, we will never be on that leaderboard and if we tie our self-worth and satisfaction to it we will never be happy. So when we want something beautiful, and have the money and space, and it’s made by someone we want to see succeed, and it might make our world a little brighter, then that’s what money is for my friend. Beyond survival, that’s all it’s good for. So buy the loving synth and be grateful you can, and let that gratitude inspire you to learn it and have fun with it and share that joy with someone you love.
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you can get them for like 850 on craigs list
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chaosbreather posted:So when we want something beautiful, and have the money and space, and it’s made by someone we want to see succeed This is part of my problem is I think the OP-1 rules and used to spend every lunch break I could demoing it at AC Gears in Manhattan but I would love nothing more than to see Teenage Engineering fail. Cutesy rear end toy for grownup company burying all that power under friggin' coloring books-for-adults-rear end-aesthetics! At least its not Behringer I guess
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net work error posted:This a toss up between a pedal or synth thread question but has anyone looked into the Soma Cosmos? It's an interesting kind of looper/delay thing that is like instant ambient. Various offerings by Eventide. Or the Korg NTS-1 as a budget option. I saw a tutorial by Ben Böhmer about his live setup, and it's basically a laptop running Ableton ... except that he buses all his dreamy pads and things into an Eventide Space because it sounds nice and reverb is a CPU hog.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:and reverb is a CPU hog. I still can’t get over how Valhalla imo makes the best sounding reverbs (seriously even against my Meris mercury 7 that cost a ton), the best ui, doesn’t hog cpu, and all their plugins are $50 flat. I love that company to death  Apple and Valhalla seem like the only ones who manage to do reverb like I want with software.
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I'm thinking just load all my stuff into the SP404 and leave all my other gear at home except for maybe a small keyboard is my ideal live setup. maybe a turntable + sp404 into a scratch mixer another thing that could be cool, since I'm making recordings on the model 12 now, is just bring the model 12 and play back the stems live in multitrack mode
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snorch posted:Cheers, I missed the last sale and have been needing a good soft synth forever. Originally I was looking at Serum, but I think pigments has just as much potential as a workhorse. Pigments + a Microfreak is so lush, it's almost like they were made for each other. I prefer the workflow of Pigments to Serum definitely, it's so easy to see what modulators are doing what in Pigments. Which just makes me sadder about Massive X because it has so much potential but that gui is just bleh incarnate compared to the cleanliness of OG massive.
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A MIRACLE posted:another thing that could be cool, since I'm making recordings on the model 12 now, is just bring the model 12 and play back the stems live in multitrack mode You enjoying that recording setup? I’ve considered it or a DP-24SD for a while but then I never commit to it and go back to my daw and zoom h6 as an interface lol. The lack of latency with those is extremely appealing since I like to live record as much as possible.
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it's very workable for recording jams. I get way better control than audacity stereo rips were giving me. The onboard MIDI transport is really solid and gives locators as well. Which is good because it won't act as a clock slave to another device unfortunately The model 12 and DP24SD both integrate well with a DAW so it's not necessarily an either / or thing. If you want a control surface and interface combo its good for that. Theres also the Soundcraft MTK if you want to skip the onboard recorder and just have a really nice inferface + mixer into the daw The model 12 will hook up a little easier as a DAW controller where with the DP24 you will have to midi map your faders. But thats really easy and you can just save a template project with that mapping.
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NonzeroCircle posted:Pigments + a Microfreak is so lush, it's almost like they were made for each other. I was looking at a Microfreak yesterday. Would anyone recommend it as a first synth coming off from Pocket Operators?
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Rolo posted:I was looking at a Microfreak yesterday. Would anyone recommend it as a first synth coming off from Pocket Operators? there is no such thing just get synths yes
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It's my first "real" synth that isn't a midi controller or pseudotoy like a monotron and I love my Microfreak
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Rolo posted:I was looking at a Microfreak yesterday. Would anyone recommend it as a first synth coming off from Pocket Operators? It was my first post-volca synth and still use it frequently. I can’t recommend it enough.
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Ok Comboomer posted:there is no such thing my first real synth was Big Mouth Billy Bass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O1cILMVeE8
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counterpoint: don't get a microfreak
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