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PittTheElder posted:Did he just get it confused with the X-15, with a top speed of Mach 6 and altitude limit right around 90km (300,000ft)? Not really related to the discussion, but even the X-15 could only do one or the other, but not both. They flew two general mission profiles; the first one involved a steep climb followed by a long, ballistic arc and re-entry, topping out as high as 354,000 feet and a maximum speed in the range of Mach 3 to 4. The second profile was oriented for high speed, with the vehicle making a shallow climb to 100-120,000 feet and staying there, achieving speeds in excess of Mach 6. The high-speed profile necessitated a launch point much further away from Edwards than the high-altitude profile (click for big): 
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So, while fact-checking my new and exciting conspiracy theory on the Kennedy assassinations -- Nixon hired the guys to kill them -- I looked up the '68 presidential election. The third-party nutjob was, as you probably know, George "Possibly the most racist dude ever" Wallace. What I didn't know, until just know, was that Wallace's running mate was our old pal Curtis "Watch the World Burn" LeMay. Until now I just thought LeMay was just a rather gung-ho product of his time. But throwing his hat in with Wallace? Yeah, turns out he was as much of an rear end in a top hat as we thought. Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Apr 5, 2015 |
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Delivery McGee posted:So, while fact-checking my new and exciting conspiracy theory on the Kennedy assassinations -- Nixon hired the guys to kill them -- I looked up the '68 presidential election. The third-party nutjob was, as you probably know, George "Possibly the most racist dude ever" Wallace. LeMay was batshit paranoid about Nixon accepting nuclear parity but he wasn't a segregationist. He had been anti-segregation in the military before Truman eliminated it altogether, and was shocked people thought he was a bigot when he signed on with Wallace (LeMay wasn't very politically savvy, to say the least). Wallace and his staff, meanwhile, quickly regretting picking LeMay because he wouldn't shut up about nukes and how they were a good thing to use once and a while. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Apr 5, 2015 |
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Delivery McGee posted:So, while fact-checking my new and exciting conspiracy theory on the Kennedy assassinations -- Nixon hired the guys to kill them -- I looked up the '68 presidential election. The third-party nutjob was, as you probably know, George "Possibly the most racist dude ever" Wallace. Second gunmen can't melt steel beams
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Delivery McGee posted:So, while fact-checking my new and exciting conspiracy theory on the Kennedy assassinations -- Nixon hired the guys to kill them -- I looked up the '68 presidential election. The third-party nutjob was, as you probably know, George "Possibly the most racist dude ever" Wallace. This is who killed Kennedy. 2010 article from Playboy Magazine http://s000.tinyupload.com/download.php?file_id=58328648095283860759&t=5832864809528386075938293
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B4Ctom1 posted:This is who killed Kennedy. If it ain't Lee Oswald, it ain't poo poo.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:LeMay was batshit paranoid about Nixon accepting nuclear parity but he wasn't a segregationist. He had been anti-segregation in the military before Truman eliminated it altogether, and was shocked people thought he was a bigot when he signed on with Wallace (LeMay wasn't very politically savvy, to say the least). Wallace and his staff, meanwhile, quickly regretting picking LeMay because he wouldn't shut up about nukes and how they were a good thing to use once and a while. LeMay was also pro-choice many years before it was politically mainstream - LeMay was a good military commander, but a bad politician. Speaking of Nixon and Wallace, they made a secret deal in the '72 election. Nixon would make the tax trouble of Wallace's brother go away, and in return Wallace would run as a democrat for president, siphoning off votes and resources from other dem candidates. Once Wallace was knocked out of the race by that assassination attempt, Nixon tried to plant McGovern campaign literature at the would-be assassin's apartment 
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B4Ctom1 posted:This is who killed Kennedy. If it's not an excerpt from Illuminatus!, why are you liking playboy.
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xthetenth posted:If it's not an excerpt from Illuminatus!, why are you liking playboy. He enjoys boobs and boob accessories?
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Nebakenezzer posted:Speaking of Nixon and Wallace, they made a secret deal in the '72 election. Nixon would make the tax trouble of Wallace's brother go away, and in return Wallace would run as a democrat for president, siphoning off votes and resources from other dem candidates. Once Wallace was knocked out of the race by that assassination attempt, Nixon tried to plant McGovern campaign literature at the would-be assassin's apartment Nixon was like a wacky sitcom character in so many ways.
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Sperglord Actual posted:If it ain't Lee Oswald, it ain't poo poo. JFK was the second gunman on the grassy knoll
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Nixon was like a wacky sitcom character in so many ways. He's been one for many years.  On topic post: Nixon and the bomb: "I just want you to think big, Henry!"
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Nebakenezzer posted:He's been one for many years. A good click. Dick Nixon posted:I don’t want Washington. I don’t like the feel of Washington. I don’t like that goddamn command airplane or any of this. I don’t believe in all that crap. I think the idea of building a new system around Washington is stupid. A year ago, I would have been shocked and horrified at this. After a year of working in D.C., uh, well let's just say I'm pretty open to this prospect.
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Red Crown posted:A year ago, I would have been shocked and horrified at this. After a year of working in D.C., uh, well let's just say I'm pretty open to this prospect. 
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Nebakenezzer posted:LeMay was also pro-choice many years before it was politically mainstream - LeMay was a good military commander, but a bad politician. Dude just really liked killing people, at least he's consistent.
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LeMay seems like he would have gotten along with Cato the Elder like a house on fire(because it was nuked).
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bitcoin bastard posted:Dude just really liked killing people, at least he's consistent. Sometimes you wonder what LeMay would have done, if presented with the current situation with ISIS or Afghanistan. I'm not quite sure of the specifics, but I know nuclear weapons would be involved.
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Saint Celestine posted:Sometimes you wonder what LeMay would have done, if presented with the current situation with ISIS or Afghanistan. To the melody of a certain Beach Boys song....
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IIRC that parody cracked the top 40 in 1979.
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Saint Celestine posted:Sometimes you wonder what LeMay would have done, if presented with the current situation with ISIS or Afghanistan. He would have recommended turning Syria, Iraq and probably Iran into a giant sheet of glass. Politicians would have told him to shut the gently caress up and hand over some of his bombers for conversion to the conventional roles,
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Well, his advice as CSAF during Vietnam was always a massive conventional bombing campaign on what we'd now call centers of gravity - ports, industrial parks, logistics centers. He repeatedly said nukes weren't the answer. He had a very WWII 8th AF mindset: destroy the gently caress out of everything that materially supported the enemy's ability to fight, rather than killing as many people as possible (like Douhet advocated). He probably wouldn't have wanted any part of the current fight in Iraq or Afghanistan. Afghanistan because you can't bomb your enemy into the stone age when they're already there. As far as Iraq, he probably would've had a 6-foot erection for overthrowing Saddam, but everything since then has been the sort of problem that strategic bombing can't really solve. He'd probably be irate at how we've been using the B-1 for the past decade. God help the people running Global Strike Command.
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Sure you can. They're in the middle of the desert. Target their power plants, water treatment facilities, and roads. Let's see how they can fight without power, water, or transport.
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INTJ Mastermind posted:Sure you can. They're in the middle of the desert. Target their power plants, water treatment facilities, and roads. Let's see how they can fight without power, water, or transport. My guess would be about the same as right now.
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INTJ Mastermind posted:Sure you can. They're in the middle of the desert. Target their power plants, water treatment facilities, and roads. Let's see how they can fight without power, water, or transport.
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INTJ Mastermind posted:Sure you can. They're in the middle of the desert. Target their power plants, water treatment facilities, and roads. Let's see how they can fight without power, water, or transport. "Just like granddad used to." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR3FPplcJGg
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Delivery McGee posted:So, while fact-checking my new and exciting conspiracy theory on the Kennedy assassinations -- Nixon hired the guys to kill them -- I looked up the '68 presidential election. The third-party nutjob was, as you probably know, George "Possibly the most racist dude ever" Wallace. Wallace was more of pure political opportunist than an inveterate racist. As a lawyer and as a judge he was pretty pro-civil rights, moreso than most at the time, and actively spoke out against the Klan: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/wallace/filmmore/reference/interview/chestnut01.html But then he lost his first election to a die-hard segregationist and completely changed politically: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/wallace/sfeature/quotes.html In his final election, he received more than 90% of the black vote. "Possibly the most racist dude ever" is a real oversimplification of a complex issue.
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INTJ Mastermind posted:Sure you can. They're in the middle of the desert. Target their power plants, water treatment facilities, and roads. Let's see how they can fight without power, water, or transport. We did all that in about 3 days. The problem is the decade after that.
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Phanatic posted:"Possibly the most racist dude ever" is a real oversimplification of a complex issue. Fob James, for one, would proudly dispute such a title.
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Godholio posted:We did all that in about 3 days. The problem is the decade after that. that's when you switch to napalm, WP and defoliants
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VikingSkull posted:that's when you switch to napalm, WP and defoliants Waitaminute
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Russian Oscar II SSGN catches fire in shipyard ahahah those things just do not have a good safety record
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You could not pay me enough to work on a Russian submarine.
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Too bad it was defueled, a meltdown could have done wonders for the region.
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To be fair, one of ours caught fire recently too  (for a somewhat different reason of course)
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You sure about that? Setting a fire to get off work a little early that day sounds very Russian.
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Can you imagine the toxins that came off of this thing when it was burning?
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That's why I prefer a free range strategic bomber.
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It was probably just glue and epoxy fumes, so nothing you want to breathe, but probably not superfund-nasty either.
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Thinking about submarines, nuclear weapons, and mishaps, is the U.S. navy's ballistic missile submarine program as much of a terrible place where careers go to die as land-based missiles? If not, why not?
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Culture of Excellence. Culture of Excellence! Culture of Excellence!!!
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