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Epic High Five posted:edit - apparently it's a fine example of Brutalist Architecture which sounds like the best kind brutalism is basically as deep as architects were able to get their heads within their asses. the funniest things are brutalist churches, apparently there are some that have been declared historical/cultural monuments by jackass art people and the actual parishioners are legally prohibited from blowing up their stupid rear end ugly depressing churches   this is all kinda fun until you remember that you have to build buildingsi n the real world where the sun isnt always shining at the right angle and not having any eaves and building in concrete means your walls get stained by rain and pigeon poo poo and it costs a fortune to heat or cool your stupid rear end gigantic art project so humans can exist within it
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oystertoadfish posted:brutalism is basically as deep as architects were able to get their heads within their asses. the funniest things are brutalist churches, apparently there are some that have been declared historical/cultural monuments by jackass art people and the actual parishioners are legally prohibited from blowing up their stupid rear end ugly depressing churches haha it's like one of those chapels carved out of a missile silo in Fallout except somehow more depressing the gently caress is even with that ceiling, why does a ceiling need to be like a stealth goddamned fighter
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May 21, 2016 07:26
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Helical Nightmares posted:Hydrox are pretty poo poo tbh Hydrox came before Oreos but I wont argue quality. Listened to Trump's NRA speech. His shtick is entertaining for a while, maybe enough to get him through the election, but people are going to get so sick of it for four years on no matter how great he makes America.
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May 21, 2016 07:27
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oystertoadfish posted:brutalism is basically as deep as architects were able to get their heads within their asses. the funniest things are brutalist churches, apparently there are some that have been declared historical/cultural monuments by jackass art people and the actual parishioners are legally prohibited from blowing up their stupid rear end ugly depressing churches makes for some sick metal album covers tho, god drat.
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May 21, 2016 07:31
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oystertoadfish posted:brutalism is basically as deep as architects were able to get their heads within their asses. the funniest things are brutalist churches, apparently there are some that have been declared historical/cultural monuments by jackass art people and the actual parishioners are legally prohibited from blowing up their stupid rear end ugly depressing churches All I see is that cult in Planet of The Apes, praying to the nuclear bomb as their god.
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May 21, 2016 07:32
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"Oh and another feature is that you have to spend 4 hours and $250 to heat the cavernous open space that serves no purpose before anybody feels any effect"
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i remember walking through a school (as in architecture school idk if thats what all architecture schools are called but tahts how it was known where i went to undergrad) and seeing the students literally lying on their bellies on the floor drawing poo poo with big fat crayons gently caress architects the sydney opera house is cool tho that's a decent example of an architect setting a crazy-rear end challenge and engineers rising to it. still hilariously impractical but whatever that can be allowed on occasion
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May 21, 2016 07:36
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I think Hydrox are fine and James Stirling had some really good ideas.
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May 21, 2016 07:37
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ive heard of hydrox but ive never eaten them and im not sure ive ever actually seen them irl
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May 21, 2016 07:42
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oystertoadfish posted:i remember walking through a school (as in architecture school idk if thats what all architecture schools are called but tahts how it was known where i went to undergrad) and seeing the students literally lying on their bellies on the floor drawing poo poo with big fat crayons art is cool & good, and not everyone wants to live in aspergers functional shoeboxes, ffs
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May 21, 2016 07:43
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mike12345 posted:art is cool & good, and not everyone wants to live in aspergers functional shoeboxes, ffs haha its possible im using exaggeration as a rhetorical technique and there's actually a middle ground
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oystertoadfish posted:brutalism is basically as deep as architects were able to get their heads within their asses. the funniest things are brutalist churches, apparently there are some that have been declared historical/cultural monuments by jackass art people and the actual parishioners are legally prohibited from blowing up their stupid rear end ugly depressing churches I hear what you're saying about the pigeons and heating costs and all, but these churches look dope as gently caress
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May 21, 2016 07:46
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i think the silliness of modern architecture is when it's at its most aspergian and shoeboxlike because there's been a tendency to neglect beautiful, functional forms of traditional architecture on theoretical bases a little booklet tom wolfe wrote called from bauhaus to our house is a good enough summation of the argument
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May 21, 2016 07:50
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oystertoadfish posted:haha its possible im using exaggeration as a rhetorical technique and there's actually a middle ground mike12345 posted:I have aspergers, ffs
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:Why can't I play as an Australian civ in Civ V? That's messed up. you can, it's one of the better known mods for it, and also one of the higher-quality ones, they actually made a full 3D voice acted model for Henry Parkes (it's a little rough but) http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=221344781 there's also a more recent one under John Curtin, by the same people, and imo it's actually the nicer one of the two. icon art's better http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=672705874
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May 21, 2016 07:54
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i doubt many of us have aspergers tbh i think mostly we suffer from forums posting its a different entry in the dsm v
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May 21, 2016 07:55
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oystertoadfish posted:i think the silliness of modern architecture is when it's at its most aspergian and shoeboxlike because there's been a tendency to neglect beautiful, functional forms of traditional architecture on theoretical bases idk I like it when architects are allowed to experiment to the point where it cedes to be a habitat. establish some chaos and then go back towards functionality.
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May 21, 2016 07:55
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I've always been under the impression that all "great" architecture is actually profoundly inefficient and sacrifices a lot of the sake of a specific aesthetic. Falling Waters is what everybody things of but isn't that a nightmare to heat/cool? Same with that one Ferris Bueller house At least it isn't a $10,000 oversized bean bag with a meth-fueled fanfic on the placard or whatever is on display at your local MOMA so whatever Nobody admires the old WPA buildings that comprise everything used in our national parks and so much else but they're still chugging along like champs after like 80 years
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May 21, 2016 07:56
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oystertoadfish posted:ive heard of hydrox but ive never eaten them and im not sure ive ever actually seen them irl fun fact: hydrox were released before oreos, making oreos the hydrox knockoff. except oreo totally did it better and didnt name their cookie like a loving cleaning chemical.
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May 21, 2016 07:57
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i guess from spending time in dc and on college campuses i've seen 20th century architecture and i've seen what came before and i've made my own judgments about which styles are more beautiful/interesting/whatever. i'm glad art exists i dont mean to overdo the utilitarian argument, i just like to poke fun at some of these buildings. college students drawing in crayon is also silly and im just doing that thing where engineers sneer at architects for fun even though i couldnt build a building for poo poo
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May 21, 2016 08:00
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yeah we really need to get down our practical civil architecture. america has no problems building things that stand up right, and look nice, but whether or not they're practical is up to when some glaring flaw is found way too late, like all the oxygen being sucked out of you when you stand in some specific spot those squat old buildings they use for like dmvs and preserve offices work fine and all, but sooner or later we might need to talk about replacing them, and also expanding them
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May 21, 2016 08:01
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I grew up like 20 minutes from Fallingwater, but I never actually went there.
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May 21, 2016 08:02
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We need some creative energy put to buildings that efficiently house lots of people and are cheap to build so my loving rent may go down
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Epic High Five posted:We need some creative energy put to buildings that efficiently house lots of people and are cheap to build so my loving rent may go down this is a good idea and one i've been pondering about for a long time unfortunately there's like a 95% chance they wind up having tons of corners cut because it's just poors living there so we can skimp on x structurally integral feature, and then we have a bunch of kowloon walled cities everywhere
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yeah the idea of 'let's build efficient low-cost housing' is how we got the projects, it's pretty sad really. i guess fire hazard tenement housing wasn't great either here's a bad-rear end german kowloon walled city documentary from back when it still existed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lby9P3ms11w
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Gyra_Solune posted:this is a good idea and one i've been pondering about for a long time That's pretty much all new rental development though. If the way forward is soulless under-insulated human containers then they may as well be cheap ones
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mike12345 posted:idk I like it when architects are allowed to experiment to the point where it cedes to be a habitat. establish some chaos and then go back towards functionality. I agree as a bystander who doesn't have to pay the heating bill for that church. If I was stuck with the bill, I'd shoot all architects on sight on principle.
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Epic High Five posted:I've always been under the impression that all "great" architecture is actually profoundly inefficient and sacrifices a lot of the sake of a specific aesthetic. Falling Waters is what everybody things of but isn't that a nightmare to heat/cool? Same with that one Ferris Bueller house Fallingwater and most of Wright's projects actually worked incredibly well by the standards of the time- you just have to bear in mind it was built in the 1930s. It's got serious issues now, but that's a product of its age and setting. The big problem with Wright is he cemented the architect as visionary auteur in the US, and the institute set up in his name is basically a cult of personality. The classical villain of the art-vs-functionality debate is Frank Gehry, whose buildings are both ugly and completely dysfunctional. More generally, good architecture programs (and the good people who come out of them) cover aesthetic theory, but have heavy overlap with architectural engineering. When you see a college/uni split the two or move their buildings further apart, or divide their libraries, that's a bad sign. I wonder who does design for Trump's resorts? Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 08:15 on May 21, 2016 |
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oystertoadfish posted:once i tried to separate the us into australias. i just found it in my gmail This is cool A great take on the city/cultural divisions in America is the "United Areas of America" bit by the great Patrice O'neal on Opie and Anthony Animated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8SkOm7WF2U Full conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZbzncPXIUY
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once i went through this massive archive of o&a episodes with louis ck and/or patrice as guests on youtube, i tried to listen to episodes without them but i got really bored really quick patrice was a big fat genius
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Discendo Vox posted:I wonder who does design for Trump's resorts? Whoever can design the most outward-facing surfaces to be plated with gold-leaf.
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I'm in DC this weekend and the amount of Trump shirts and MAGA hats openly being warn by folks is insane. Dude is selling more merch than bands. Also you can get knock off MAGA stuff everywhere. The knock off Hillary gear is all in pink and no one seems to be buying it...
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May 21, 2016 08:36
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If Trump was into Brutalist design he'd be worth voting for. The Wall would be amazing.
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You can just get out of my face if the Hydrox episode wasn't one of your fav episodes in this reality show.  
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PostNouveau posted:I hear what you're saying about the pigeons and heating costs and all, but these churches look dope as gently caress
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PostNouveau posted:I hear what you're saying about the pigeons and heating costs and all, but these churches look dopey as gently caress 
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Senor Oreooystertoadfish posted:once i went through this massive archive of o&a episodes with louis ck and/or patrice as guests on youtube, i tried to listen to episodes without them but i got really bored really quick  I'm working through this list for the second time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCUp0SIpT3TGxoDQCvlHA9Ug
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I thought "Hydrox" is a drain cleaner, I didn't think that's what you name cookies in the US. Yikes.
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mike12345 posted:I thought "Hydrox" is a drain cleaner, I didn't think that's what you name cookies in the US. Yikes. I thought it was one of those body builder supplements, I've never seen those cookies
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