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 The new ZX6R looks awesome in real life in a way that's hard to see in photos. If you're in a dealership go check it out. It's the best looking 600 class super sport in many many years (my opinion obviously).
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^ I have to agree, pictures don't do those things justice. They look incredible in person, and are really comfortable to boot.
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Jan 18, 2013 04:06
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Is it just me, or does the 636 font look like it's been taken from Triumph's new bikes? Looks impressive nonetheless!
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Jan 18, 2013 04:10
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That's a nice looking bike. The kwakka potato launcher almost looks palatable in body color.
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Jan 18, 2013 06:13
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slidebite posted:The kwakka potato launcher almost looks palatable in body color. Did I just have a stroke or does this make no sense to anyone else?
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Jan 18, 2013 06:28
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I don't know specifically what "kwakka" means but "potato launcher" is slang for the exhaust pipe, and he's saying that it looks decent when it's painted body color instead of chrome or aluminum or whatever. Don't die, go see a doctor e: VVVVVV damnit, I did know that 
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Jan 18, 2013 06:33
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Kwakka=Kawasaki Yammy=Yamaha Suzy=Suzuki Fazza=Ferrari Porker=Porsche Subie=Subaru It goes on
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Jan 18, 2013 06:43
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The potato launcher would in this case, more specifically, be the ENORMOUS can they put on that and other modern bikes.
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Jan 18, 2013 06:57
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Is Kwakka just an Australian thing? Huh. That one does look good, they look like poo poo in any other colour though (in my opinion). Underseat exhaust is the way to go (visually).
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Jan 18, 2013 07:26
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In nz a variation on kwakka is 'saki. SACK-ee.
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Jan 18, 2013 08:23
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Nidhg00670000 posted:The potato launcher would in this case, more specifically, be the ENORMOUS can they put on that and other modern bikes.  I have never seen a road star that didn't have an aftermarket exhaust. I wonder why. 
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Jan 18, 2013 09:03
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Wow. That couldn't look more out of place if it tried on that bike.
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Jan 18, 2013 09:47
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M42 posted:Know what time it is? That's right. Dakar time. Ola posted:Photo and moto nerds both did a bad thing in the pants. Dakar must be so rewarding to experience as a photographer; Brightly coloured subjects doing interesting things in an interesting but largely subdued abstract looking landscape, with a fuckton of natural light to freeze them all in perfect high resolution detail.
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Jan 18, 2013 10:52
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Speaking of Dakar, and bringing back Charley Chat, you can see what an insufferable twat he really is in Race to Dakar. The book doesn't do his antics justice. I read the entire book, but I only made it through the first couple episodes (I think they were in the UAE training) and I felt incredibly bad for the teammates that got suckered into working with him.
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Jan 18, 2013 11:20
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What sort of stuff? He seemed like a bit of a tool in LWR (okay, Charley, you can do a wheelie, okay you're doing it again, great) but it gets worse than that?
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Jan 18, 2013 11:23
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Basically he's a big whiny baby through the whole thing. His coach/teammate who has done the Dakar wants him to finish a few local races first, and Charley keeps quitting on them and then whining about it. There's a lot of other stuff that reminded me of the stereotypical big actor (not saying he is one) on the set attitude of wanting everything done for him and he'd just show up and do his bit when it was time. The guy had no business in any race, let alone the Dakar.
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Jan 18, 2013 11:31
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SeamusMcPhisticuffs posted:stereotypical big actor (not saying he is one)
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Jan 18, 2013 14:13
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I watched it up until he crashed out and I thought he came off as very unenthusiastic for the project, almost like he said he'd do it then regretted it. I also thought it was pretty special how Simon, his trainer, was pushing him the whole way and Charley was dragging his feet. Then, they went to the UAE or wherever to train in sand and Simon was coming a few days later to give Charley some time with the sand instructor and to get comfortable. Then Charley wrecks and breaks his collarbone the first day and then blames....Simon? For not being there? Lol. It's on the youtubes as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4g3BauJmOw
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Jan 18, 2013 19:56
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Jan 18, 2013 20:40
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This would be orgasmic if it had a more normal headlight instead of a medical eyesight tester. As it stands it's merely perfect.
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Jan 18, 2013 20:43
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Covert Ops Wizard posted:Did I just have a stroke or does this make no sense to anyone else? Sorry! That's what happens when you get the fat middle aged guy using slang that he thinks all the cool kids use 
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Jan 18, 2013 20:55
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When I finally construct my mancave I am going to design and manufacture a round, solid headlight with a tight and bright beam, weatherproof, easy and solid fit on any fork and a variety of bucket colors - including primer only. And I am going to make bagillions!
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Jan 18, 2013 21:09
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Slavvy posted:This would be orgasmic if it had a more normal headlight instead of a medical eyesight tester. You're right, the stock bucket would have looked better.
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Jan 18, 2013 21:12
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Also what is the purpose of those 'wave' rotors on a sportbike? Is it just to look cool (it doesn't), or is there meant to be some sort of performance benefit? The last bike I rode which had them had terrible brake feel when slowing from high speed, it wasn't a shudder like warped rotors but rather a grinding, like holding a power tool or something.
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Jan 18, 2013 21:46
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The wave shape definitely increases the rotor's surface area, which I imagine helps with heat dissipation. High performance metallic pads give me a feeling similar to what I think you're describing, most notably when cold. This is why I like organic pads for street riding.
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Jan 18, 2013 21:51
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Slavvy posted:Also what is the purpose of those 'wave' rotors on a sportbike? Is it just to look cool (it doesn't), or is there meant to be some sort of performance benefit? There are a few primary reasons why rotors take different shapes, often misguided or misused by some of the cheaper brands or folks who don't know any better: -Weight savings -Looks -Heat dissipation -Water/Material build up resistance Many wave rotors are poorly designed because for strong braking you need surface area for the pads to resist against. Often aftermarket wave rotors are too generous with the 'weight savings'. You also need a metal area that is thick enough to properly dissipate the heat. Many are too thin to work effectively. It's important to ensure you are buying rotors that meet all the criteria effectively. Most rotor re-designs are cheap marketing bullshit. Case in point, you don't see WSBK bikes with big rear end wave rotors do you? There is a reason for that. Basically folks are often mis-lead in thinking they need lots of holes for gasses to pass through, and light weight is going to be a large advantage and sometimes end up buying lovely disks that hurt performance compared to stock disks. Take a look at Berigner, who don't follow any of that poo poo and make some of the best brakes money can buy: 
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Spiffness posted:There are a few primary reasons why rotors take different shapes, often misguided or misused by some of the cheaper brands or folks who don't know any better: I don't know nuffink about no beringer or any other aftermarket brakes for that matter, but I do know that wet brakes are bad enough, those look like they'd be downright useless in the rain. I thought the holes and slots and whatnot helped clear water from between the pad and the rotor? I used to ride a 650 single and now ride a 1000 twin. With all that engine braking you don't tend to think about brakes that much. Finger Prince fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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Jan 18, 2013 22:37
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They are anything but, they're basically a level above Brembo even.
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Jan 18, 2013 22:39
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It takes essentially one rotation of a brake rotor to burn off all the water on it while rain riding. The bigger issue is that most aggressive pads don't work for poo poo until they're hot, not the shape or style of the rotor itself. More brake radness from braketech: http://www.braketech.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=95 
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Jan 18, 2013 22:45
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Think about it. How do the holes in brakes help channel away water? If the pads push water into the hole, where is it going to go? There's a pad squeezing on the other side as well. The square pad can easily scrape away water from the rotor, it doesn't clamp down on some incompressible layer of water. In my opinion, the slots in my own rotors serve more as grime storage compartments which can then meter out lubricating mud to further beshit an already rainy day.
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Jan 18, 2013 22:46
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A cursory google search reveals the extent of my ignorance on the subject. Oddly enough, I knew that "cross drilled rotors" etc. were purely cosmetic on cars, but for some reason I thought they served a purpose on bikes. I know people since the invention of disc brakes have brought up outgassing of the pads as the reason for grooves and holes. Is outgassing real though? If so, is it limited to only certain types of pad compound? Or an anachronism of some sort?
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For what its worth, on the EBR 1190RS, Erik says they consulted with some NASCAR people who encouraged them to go with slotted rotors for better braking instead of the cross-drilled jobs on the 1125 line.
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Jan 18, 2013 22:59
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Only you clutchpuck would chime in on a conversation about the merits of strong brake design with Nascar and Buell 
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ZTL is the best kind of brake, you know that, right?  ...I mean, this whole waved rotor conversation seemed to stem from that sweet custom Buell up there. Here's another sweet custom Buell:  Note that it is equipped with the best braking system. clutchpuck fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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Linedance posted:I used to ride a 650 single and now ride a 1000 twin. With all that engine braking you don't tend to think about brakes that much. I've never really understood this. Having ridden a couple of 1000 twins, I'd certainly prefer them to have awesome brakes instead of crap ones. Strong engine braking is fine and dandy when you're doing 60km/h stuck behind a camry but if you really want to use a powerful bike you most certainly need powerful brakes, irrespective of engine configuration. Never on my friend's VTR1000 did I think 'geez this could have a brake off a ninja 250 and it wouldn't matter because I have all that engine braking'
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Jan 18, 2013 23:27
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He wasn't saying you don't need strong brakes, he was saying you don't use them that much in regular riding. It's not just v twins either, even a ninja250 engine breaks well.
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Jan 18, 2013 23:31
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nsaP posted:even a ninja250 engine breaks well. I won't say anything 
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Jan 18, 2013 23:33
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I hate the look of wave discs, but on the other hand completely solid ones instantly have me thinking '70s bike'.clutchpuck posted:ZTL is the best kind of brake, you know that, right?
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Jan 18, 2013 23:42
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Whose fork is it wearing? (sound like fashion chat)
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High Protein posted:And I wish these bikes had more engine braking, heavy flywheel and the tuning mean it disappoints. Mine engine brakes really hard. My friend's, which has the EBR pre-programmed ECM, coasts like crazy. It's like night and day. Not sure why they're so different - "premium hand-built motorcycle" ? I do like the strong engine braking, I pretty much don't have to touch the lever unless it's an emergency or I'm stopping.
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