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Papercut posted:Kill Cam comes up, I see my Mercy behind me trying to pistol the Genji instead of healing my S76. WTF Mercy. While it's not as frequent as with Lucio, sometimes a guy is just unsalvageable for the bad position he is in and things are far more likely to turn to your team's favour if you stop doing the healing and start doing the pewpew. With Lucio, this comes in the form of speed-boost being more of a life-saver than heal-boost because his heal is bad. This could have been an acceptable decision if the Mercy knew nothing about what cooldowns the Genji had available. If she started to heal you but you died anyway (such as if Genji instantly hit dash towards you), then that would pave the way for Genji to kill her, too. There's also the case of situational awareness. I play Mercy frequently and sometimes people do a drat good job of staying perfectly behind me no matter where I'm turned, all the while spamming that they need healing. Try to keep in mind the game gives more directional information towards where your Mercy is at when they're healing you than where your teammates that need to be healed are at. While it's mechanically easy to just click remotely close to people and heal them, the decision making of who to heal, when to heal them, how much to heal them, if you should even heal them at all is a bit more complicated than that.
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so shes zenyatta ? I don't get it
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No wonder suddenly both OW threads had 200 replies. Changes sound amazing, I'm mostly playing Mercy lately (her changes sound really good) but I'm super psyched about playing D.VA again and actually being useful with Zen. Too bad I'm utter poo poo at sniping and my ping is usually 200ms, guess I'm never touching Ana. 
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Sindai posted:Someone pointed out that a boosted McCree now does 210 damage on a headshot and actually has decent range. A Discorded Roadhog will die in two headshots from a boosted McCree.
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flashman posted:so shes zenyatta ? I don't get it She's got sweet crowd control buff/debuff mechanics.
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flashman posted:This new characters ability set seems pointless. yep
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teagone posted:I want to see a nano boosted Seagull dragonblade so hard right now. the only reason you said this is because you want there to be an achievement for it called "nanomachines, son" but i will not fall for the bait edit: gently caress
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flashman posted:This new characters ability set seems pointless. She has uber.
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flashman posted:so shes zenyatta ? I don't get it shes basically just the player character from cs:go if you thinkabout it
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Cowcaster posted:the only reason you said this is because you want there to be an achievement for it called "nanomachines, son" but i will not fall for the bait lmao
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Jul 12, 2016 20:41
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Minrad posted:shes basically just the player character from cs:go if you thinkabout it makes sense now thanks for the explanation
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Jul 12, 2016 20:42
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Dren posted:Guess we'll have to wait for someone to fire up the PTR and check it out Very very fast. If you're doing the four shot burst thing anyways it's pretty much imperceptible.
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Jul 12, 2016 20:42
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Picture a D.Va with the new Defense Matrix and Nano attacking a point.
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flashman posted:makes sense now thanks for the explanation lives in de_dust2 throws grenades only uses sniper rifle nice racism, blizzard. stop gamer discrimination
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Cowcaster posted:the only reason you said this is because you want there to be an achievement for it called "nanomachines, son" but i will not fall for the bait 
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Jul 12, 2016 20:43
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Mercy boosted D.Va new meta, calling it.
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Jul 12, 2016 20:44
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Sounds like the "no headshots" thing is for the best. Otherwise Widowmaker would become pretty crappy and useless. Hog's changes make no sense to me, did anyone ever complain that Hog was OP due to his stupid ult?
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Jul 12, 2016 20:44
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I wonder if the discord orb speed increase lets it hit your target before the M2 if you release them both at the same time. That would be nice.
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Jul 12, 2016 20:45
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glad they buffed roadhog because he's really fun and
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No headshots is so she can't put you to sleep with the dart and headshot you
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BillBear posted:Sounds like the "no headshots" thing is for the best. Otherwise Widowmaker would become pretty crappy and useless. self-healing gives ult charge now he gets 20% ult charge from a full vape
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Jul 12, 2016 20:48
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Sleeping D.Va looks ridiculous, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Jul 12, 2016 20:49
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BillBear posted:Sounds like the "no headshots" thing is for the best. Otherwise Widowmaker would become pretty crappy and useless. drat, it almost sounds like roadhog got nerfed out of context of the full patch notes. thankfully, the patch will probably launch with all the balance changes instead of only some of them.
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BillBear posted:Sounds like the "no headshots" thing is for the best. Otherwise Widowmaker would become pretty crappy and useless. It's the self healing contributing to ult charge change. Hog has a metric assload of self heal. It wasn't a nerf, it was keeping him at the same place. If anything it's a small buff, because now he also gains ulti from being a big fat target. Buffs him at his worst even if it is weaker when he's owning.
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When are we likely to see the changes on the PTR on the main server? I really want tot ry Ana but I'm not sure I care enough to install the PTR.
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nickhimself posted:glad they buffed roadhog because he's really fun and They didn't? His ult will (probably) take longer to charge and Ana can completely dumpster his survivability for a good 4s.
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Jul 12, 2016 20:51
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I'm hoping Ana will at least allow career snipers to be somewhat useful now, as snipers now have double the pool of targets to choose from, but I get the feeling she'll just be another widowmaker who does DOT this time around. At least McCree and Zenyatta got buffed which is nice. It also seems like she has no movement abilities? Which is interesting for a sniper. Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jul 12, 2016 |
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Verranicus posted:When are we likely to see the changes on the PTR on the main server? I really want tot ry Ana but I'm not sure I care enough to install the PTR.
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Vermain posted:They didn't? His ult will (probably) take longer to charge and Ana can completely dumpster his survivability for a good 4s. A full self-heal ups his ult by 20%. It may require more to get it to full, but its also a LOT easier to get it to full. From what I've seen, its a buff to roadhog
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Jul 12, 2016 20:56
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Roadhog's self-heal now gives him like 20% ult charge efb
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Jul 12, 2016 20:57
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Whole Hog is a rather underwhelming ult, to be honest. Shut down easily, you're completely vulnerable during it and isn't even near-insta kill like Reaper's
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Jul 12, 2016 20:57
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Sindai posted:Last PTR was only a week before the patch I think? Short enough that there are unlikely to be any significant changes between the PTR and live patch except for bug fixes. Was that the Mcree nerf one?
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Ddraig posted:Whole Hog is a rather underwhelming ult, to be honest. Shut down easily, you're completely vulnerable during it and isn't even near-insta kill like Reaper's Two days ago I watched a guy send four enemies down the hole on the point at Nepal with it. The knockback is even better than the damage it does, I'm not sure I'd call it underwhelming, just niche.
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Ddraig posted:Whole Hog is a rather underwhelming ult, to be honest. Shut down easily, you're completely vulnerable during it and isn't even near-insta kill like Reaper's Its a pretty good ult.
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People just use it to "clear out an area" instead of using it to pin down and murder two targets. Even before this change, it charged really quick, so I always used it when I was out of ammo to confirm a kill. No use in saving it unless you're coordinating with a good Zarya. It is a good ultimate. Roadhog is already really great outside his old, having it be a kill confirm button is fine.
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I used to play Roadhog quite a bit but I've spent my tank time with Zarya recently as she's much more fun. I do like seeing Roadhogs waddling around though because they get me to 100 charge nearly instantly and they're just a huge ult battery that I can farm Graviton Surge from.
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Just saw a nano boosted dragonblade on Moonmoon's stream. Lmao, it's insane.
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It's good because it charges really quickly. Like you can have it up for basically every team fight. Just kill some people then use it to disrupt whatever the enemy is doing.
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Ddraig posted:Whole Hog is a rather underwhelming ult, to be honest. Shut down easily, you're completely vulnerable during it and isn't even near-insta kill like Reaper's Pop it against a team of bastards hiding behind a Reinhardt and see how underwhelming it is then. Preferably mercy-boosted but it wrecks the Reinhardt shield without a boost too.
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MacheteZombie posted:Its a pretty good ult. https://gfycat.com/EvilAlienatedCapybara
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