Magic the Gathering Appreciation Station

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Zoness: Jul 24, 2011; Talk to the hand.; Grimey Drawer

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

If you know anything about competitive Pokemon, you know a lot of the action is not on the games on Nintendo handhelds but on simulator programs that recreate the mechanics of battles. They streamline the process of getting a team together so that the focus is on the battles themselves. Accuracy is paramount here because they're simulating the process of battling on the actual games. A while back, the Pokemon Azumarril could learn the move Belly Drum (quadruples attack at the cost of half of its HP) or Aqua Jet (which always hits first regardless of speed) but not both at the same time. But a the simulator at the time did not account for this exclusivity and one could use a Belly Drum/Aqua Jet Azumarril and wreck faces. By what Sperling said I should've exploited the hell out of this and Aqua Jetted to the top ranks, but the act of doing so is contrary to the simulator's goal of recreating the games. And if the tournament switches over to physical copies then suddenly my team changes. What was I doing before, then?

So using Belly Drum/Aqua Jet Azumarril, or casting Myr Superion off of Forests, or whatever, we've accidentally stopped playing the game, only a flawed reproduction of it. So For 362 days of the year we're playing Magic but the other 3 we're playing Mogic where everything is the same but there's a 5/6 for 2.

To complicate this more, I know that when I was building teams for OU/Ubers I definitely didn't do a lot of research on how things were available, just I looked at a few sets and knew what the good moves were. They've gotten a lot better about making sure stuff like this doesn't get on the sims, and they often reset the ladder when stuff like this gets used (i.e. things WotC probably should be doing to be fair). It was also annoying b/c the vgc sims (the format that happens in cartridge officials) did have some things that weren't VGC legal for a few versions but they fixed that pretty quick too!

And this is for something that has no real prize attached to it.

Zoness fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Mar 17, 2016

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Peepers: Mar 11, 2005; Well, I'm a ghost. I scare people. It's all very important, I assure you.

Elyv posted:

code:

Diregraf Colossus
2B
Creature - Zombie Giant
Diregraf Colossus enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter for each Zombie card in your graveyard. 

Whenever you cast a Zombie spell, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield tapped.
2/2

I hate to be the "my edh deck!" guy but I'm loving both this and the BB zombie they've spoiled.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 18:58

Hellsau: Jan 14, 2010; NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

So For 362 days of the year we're playing Magic but the other 3 we're playing Mogic where everything is the same but there's a 5/6 for 2.

If only bugged cards were fixed within 3 days, rather than taking weeks/months/years to fix.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:00

Death Bot: Mar 4, 2007; Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110

If there are bugs in the game and wizards is not able to even temporarily remove the card then as far as I'm concerned they have left the game to the wolves and "abusing" a known and longstanding bug is, no matter how scummy, understandable and if anything could maybe get wizards to disable broken cards,or God forbid fix them.

I honestly don't understand how you can put a bug that wins you the game in a game, explicitly NOT say anything about it including not banning said bug from the game, and then fault the people using said bug to win "money" no matter how abstracted

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:07

Death Bot: Mar 4, 2007; Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110

Pretty sure "cheat at a children's game for material wealth" is at least one ygo characters arc and I'm all about that

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Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Just me or is this one of the more subpar looking walker arts in a while, just technically speaking?

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:17

Gumdrop Larry: Jul 30, 2006

You're not wrong. It might look better and more detailed in hand, but that rendering of it makes it look like a deviantart picture from someone who's got a decent hold on anatomy but hasn't quite grasped the finer points of shading yet.

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PrinnySquadron: Dec 8, 2009

From the MTG tumblr.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:24

Rip_Van_Winkle: Jul 21, 2011; "When life gives you ghosts, you make ghost-robots"

I think this is a philosophy we can all aspire to.

Rinkles posted:

Just me or is this one of the more subpar looking walker arts in a while, just technically speaking?

What direction is the light coming from

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:25

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

The more I look at it the more he looks like Danzig.

I think the Demon-Church land might see play if there's a tokens deck, because it's a land that can make tokens, and the 'ultimate' is a thing that you might pull off once in a blue moon but you're not really building your deck around it. Your Plan A will be beating down with a bunch of tokens and buffing them with Gideon emblems or what have you, but you'll sometimes get a board state where you go "Oh. I have 5 tokens on this clogged board, you have no flyers and are at <= 9 life, I just win now." Tapping for colorless could even be an upside if the deck runs things like Matter Reshaper or Thought-Knot seer, which a few BW control/planeswalkers/secure the wastes deck builds have been doing this standard. It competes with other colorless lands there, like Sea Gate Wreckage, but it could be good enough to make the cut.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:27

MiddleEastBeast: Jan 19, 2003; Forum Bully

Investigate might be the best flavor Wizards has ever come up with.

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TheKingofSprings: Oct 9, 2012

PrinnySquadron posted:

From the MTG tumblr.

Turn 1 play the 1/2, turn 2 play this, turn 3 swing?

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:28

Rip_Van_Winkle: Jul 21, 2011; "When life gives you ghosts, you make ghost-robots"

I think this is a philosophy we can all aspire to.

I don't remember this one, is it new?

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:28

Angry Grimace: Jul 29, 2010; ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

PrinnySquadron posted:

From the MTG tumblr.

The art on this is really cool.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:29

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

MiddleEastBeast posted:

Investigate might be the best flavor Wizards has ever come up with.

I'm still waiting for the card that says "Destroy target creature. Its controller investigates." C'moooooon Wizards, don't blow this perfect flavour opportunity.

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MiddleEastBeast: Jan 19, 2003; Forum Bully

Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

I don't remember this one, is it new?

Favorite spoiled card in the set, easily.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:29

Elyv: Jun 14, 2013

Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

I don't remember this one, is it new?

yes, also have this

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:29

Bread Set Jettison: Jan 8, 2009

MiddleEastBeast posted:

Investigate might be the best flavor Wizards has ever come up with.

I both love and hate it

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PrinnySquadron: Dec 8, 2009

Angry Grimace posted:

The art on this is really cool.

It feels very bloodborne imo.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:29

dragon enthusiast: Jan 1, 2010

PrinnySquadron posted:

From the MTG tumblr.

As you once did for the vacuous Jace, grant us eyes, grant us eyes.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:30

Zoness: Jul 24, 2011; Talk to the hand.; Grimey Drawer

Entropic posted:

I'm still waiting for the card that says "Destroy target creature. Its controller investigates." C'moooooon Wizards, don't blow this perfect flavour opportunity.

too bad they already wasted the spell name "murder investigation"

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:31

Irony Be My Shield: Jul 29, 2012

Please let me name a deck All-Piercing Blue Truth. This is all I want Wizards

e: they still have Murder Most Foul right

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:31

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

PrinnySquadron posted:

From the MTG tumblr.

I like this card because it gives me hope there will be a Standard deck called "Blue's Clues".

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:32

Skyl3lazer: Aug 27, 2007; [Dooting Stealthily]

The art and flavor text of Trail of Evidence is fantastic

https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/710532906863693824

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Elyv: Jun 14, 2013

why does the daring sleuth change types when he flips

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:33

TheKingofSprings: Oct 9, 2012

Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

I don't remember this one, is it new?

This is so wonderfully durdly

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:35

Irony Be My Shield: Jul 29, 2012

I don't think I will ever be able to pass that card.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:36

Deckit: Sep 1, 2012

dragon enthusiast posted:

As you once did for the vacuous Jace, grant us eyes, grant us eyes.

Ahhh, Jay-see. Or some say, Jah-see. Do you hear our prayers!?

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:36

atelier morgan: Mar 11, 2003; super-scientific, ultra-gay; Lipstick Apathy

Elyv posted:

why does the daring sleuth change types when he flips

because his search led him to uncover the dark magics he is using to animate that horde of lanterns

_{and which is responsible for the unearthly growths sprouting from his shoulder}

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:36

Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Not many "artifacts matter" cards yet, right?

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:36

Barry Shitpeas: Dec 17, 2003; there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013

Entropic posted:

I'm still waiting for the card that says "Destroy target creature. Its controller investigates." C'moooooon Wizards, don't blow this perfect flavour opportunity.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:38

STANKBALLS TASTYLEGS: Oct 12, 2012

I swear to god if there isn't a card that has a win condition involving clues I will riot.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:38

Angry Grimace: Jul 29, 2010; ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Rinkles posted:

Not many "artifacts matter" cards yet, right?

Wrong set. Ongoing Investigation and Thopter Spy Network have a really cool synergy though. You just get infinite cards and guys (I mean, sort of lol)

Also

Just needs a bit more touch up and its pretty much accurate.

Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Mar 17, 2016

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:39

Terrible Horse: Apr 27, 2004; :I

Fiend Computer posted:

I swear to god if there isn't a card that has a win condition involving clues I will riot.

Or at least something like "If you control 5 or more clues, search your library for a card named "Serial Killer" and put in on the battlefield"

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:40

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

Barry Shitpeas posted:

Ehh. That's not clean enough.

I'd take "Target creature gets --4/-4 until end of turn. If it dies this turn, its controller investigates."

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:40

atelier morgan: Mar 11, 2003; super-scientific, ultra-gay; Lipstick Apathy

Fiend Computer posted:

I swear to god if there isn't a card that has a win condition involving clues I will riot.

i'd presume if we get that it'll come in eldritch moon

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:40

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

I don't remember this one, is it new?

i like this card even tho the green part seems weird as heck

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:43

Barry Shitpeas: Dec 17, 2003; there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013

Entropic posted:

Ehh. That's not clean enough.

I'd take "Target creature gets --4/-4 until end of turn. If it dies this turn, its controller investigates."

Kill a creature but give its controller something is pretty clearly white

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:43

Irony Be My Shield: Jul 29, 2012

Skyl3lazer posted:

The art and flavor text of Trail of Evidence is fantastic

https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/710532906863693824

I like the card. It's slow but it will bury your opponents in cards in a control deck. Plus it enables your other do-nothing enchantment.

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Barry Shitpeas: Dec 17, 2003; there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013

I like the way half the blue cards in the set are "Jace looking at stuff"

# ? Mar 17, 2016 19:45

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