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WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
my branch twitter DM is lit

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Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

the extremely online back-biting corpse-loving Democratic Strasserites of America

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
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i like this thread and think you are all good and my online friends please be nice to me

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

my branch twitter DM is lit

tomorrow’s gbm is gonna be such a shitshow

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS
Thinking every joke is actually about you is the one pure path to enlightenment. It's pretty nuts that the CVille funds haven't been processed yet tho

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/995410526871146496?s=19

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
👏LET👏ME👏 SPEAK👏TO👏YOUR👏MANAGER👏

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
I think the person who told the joke is allowed to decide, based on feedback from people in DSA for whom "cars hitting people" is understandably traumatic, that it wasn't such a great idea and take it back, but maybe this is blaming the victim (i.e., the person who told the joke, a victim of people who got upset as his joke). Or maybe we are the victims for being deprived of a joke we'd probably forget about in a day or two anyway. I'm still trying to figure out why getting upset at people who got upset at a joke is the normaler (tm) thing to do than getting upset at a joke tho, for a long time I have associated rolling one's eyes at "the perpetually offended" and being deeply concerned about their online lynch mobs with the right wing so figuring it out in a socialist context is a bit confusing to me. Is this horseshoe theory or...?

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

GunnerJ posted:

I think the person who told the joke is allowed to decide, based on feedback from people in DSA for whom "cars hitting people" is understandably traumatic, that it wasn't such a great idea and take it back, but maybe this is blaming the victim (i.e., the person who told the joke, a victim of people who got upset as his joke). Or maybe we are the victims for being deprived of a joke we'd probably forget about in a day or two anyway. I'm still trying to figure out why getting upset at people who got upset at a joke is the normaler (tm) thing to do than getting upset at a joke tho, for a long time I have associated rolling one's eyes at "the perpetually offended" and being deeply concerned about their online lynch mobs with the right wing so figuring it out in a socialist context is a bit confusing to me. Is this horseshoe theory or...?

it's not that deep

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Ace of Baes posted:

it's not that deep

:thunk:

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
he made an innocent joke, people got overly offended by it, he deleted it because he felt bad, now it's entering the stage where it becomes part of the eternal proxy battle of the terminally online and the npc/momentum faction

gtrmp
Sep 29, 2008

Oba-Ma... Oba-Ma! Oba-Ma, aasha deh!

Ace of Baes posted:

he made an innocent joke, people got overly offended by it, he deleted it because he felt bad, now it's entering the stage where it becomes part of the eternal proxy battle of the terminally online and the npc/momentum faction

Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve entirely around your irony-poisoned twitter feuds. Like you weren't quoting some rando who was looking to pick a fight, you quoted the co-chair of DSA Charlottesville, where people have a pretty loving legitimate reason to not want to joke about their comrades getting hit by cars. It's not at all unreasonable for someone in her position to ask for an apology, which is why one of the two people she specifically asked to apologize did so after that tweet. Empathy isn't exactly difficult, you know; most people figure it out by the time they've learned how to work doorknobs.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

gtrmp posted:

Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve entirely around your irony-poisoned twitter feuds. Like you weren't quoting some rando who was looking to pick a fight, you quoted the co-chair of DSA Charlottesville, where people have a pretty loving legitimate reason to not want to joke about their comrades getting hit by cars. It's not at all unreasonable for someone in her position to ask for an apology, which is why one of the two people she specifically asked to apologize did so after that tweet. Empathy isn't exactly difficult, you know; most people figure it out by the time they've learned how to work doorknobs.

I think you'll find that never ever trying to see someone else's point of view and always assuming bad faith makes the world much easier to navigate, though. Like, look, anything else takes minimal effort, why bother when I can just assume that anyone getting mad online at something I like is just part of the shadow council of democratic socialists who hate single payer, a thing that definitely exists?

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
I do like the shift from "Abolish the NPC, purge the out of touch big city chapter online dramalamas" to "defend the NPC from demands for apologies from organizers in smaller rural chapters" though.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


GunnerJ posted:

I do like the shift from "Abolish the NPC, purge the out of touch big city chapter online dramalamas" to "defend the NPC from demands for apologies from organizers in smaller rural chapters" though.

the maker of this thread that is more or less about making fun of leftists who are mad online is himself mad online

i feel like theres a warning here

Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
Dan Crenshaw's Eyepatch

gtrmp posted:

Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve entirely around your irony-poisoned twitter feuds. Like you weren't quoting some rando who was looking to pick a fight, you quoted the co-chair of DSA Charlottesville, where people have a pretty loving legitimate reason to not want to joke about their comrades getting hit by cars. It's not at all unreasonable for someone in her position to ask for an apology, which is why one of the two people she specifically asked to apologize did so after that tweet. Empathy isn't exactly difficult, you know; most people figure it out by the time they've learned how to work doorknobs.

Jokes are how people cope with tragedy. An empathetic person would understand this. Hope this helps :angel:

e: that came out way more aggressive than I intended :v:



(It also had nothing to do with charlottesville[can we start dragging this poor dude over the canadian incel too])

Marxalot has issued a correction as of 00:45 on May 13, 2018

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls
Really, this thread is a microcosm of the American left.

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
Molly is a super cool person because she actually makes the effort to help smaller chapters organize.

And she is absolutely right. One kid doing a joke is whatever. The npc getting in on that joke about restitution to being hit by a car even as national still hasn't paid out the funds they collected is pretty bad.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

joepinetree posted:

Molly is a super cool person because she actually makes the effort to help smaller chapters organize.

Wait, what. That can't be, because if it is then how can I frame her as a terminally online do-nothing status monger/wrecker??

Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
Dan Crenshaw's Eyepatch

joepinetree posted:

Molly is a super cool person because she actually makes the effort to help smaller chapters organize.

If there's one thing I think we can all agree on is that she seems to have cool dogs. Judging off the twitter banner picture thing.







Then again I've always liked daschunds.

gtrmp
Sep 29, 2008

Oba-Ma... Oba-Ma! Oba-Ma, aasha deh!

Marxalot posted:

Jokes are how people cope with tragedy. An empathetic person would understand this. Hope this helps :angel:

e: that came out way more aggressive than I intended :v:



(It also had nothing to do with charlottesville[can we start dragging this poor dude over the canadian incel too])

Yeah, I know that the original twitter account wasn't intended to evoke Charlottesville, but nevertheless, that was how the affected people read the joke. When the person who made the account found out that his goofy joke tweets were unintentionally hurtful, he apologized and deleted the account. Nobody did anything wrong there. The only people who are absolutely in the wrong are the ones trying to stoke conflict heedless of the fact that they're harming PTSD survivors by doing so, whether they're doing so to take potshots at the NPC or to defend the sanctity of Joke's Online.

And yeah of course people use humor to cope with trauma, but that wasn't the case here (or at least, if it was, it had nothing to do with Charlottesville). It was just a regular-rear end joke that was inappropriate in the specific context where it was used.

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS
Dachshunds are wreckers andr really yippy

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

gtrmp posted:

Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve entirely around your irony-poisoned twitter feuds. Like you weren't quoting some rando who was looking to pick a fight, you quoted the co-chair of DSA Charlottesville, where people have a pretty loving legitimate reason to not want to joke about their comrades getting hit by cars. It's not at all unreasonable for someone in her position to ask for an apology, which is why one of the two people she specifically asked to apologize did so after that tweet. Empathy isn't exactly difficult, you know; most people figure it out by the time they've learned how to work doorknobs.
lol she's the one who tied it back to the ongoing NPC feud

https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/995416124090183680?s=19

I don't really care, I've dealt with plenty of vioent Nazis, this is just a jerk off sesh though, which is why she's publically demanding apologies instead of dming them

Baby Babbeh
Aug 2, 2005

It's hard to soar with the eagles when you work with Turkeys!!



At least they're not German shepherds, who collaborate with the police and have never apologized for their role in the Holocaust.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
the NPC literally can't do anything about the Charlottesville money, they don't have it, and they didn't raise it to begin with

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug
If you want to abolish the NPC and remove any actual structure above individual chapters, now would be the time to push for it.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
actually the time would be next year, at the national convention, I doubt it will happen though, unfortunately

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
Regional-level structures would be cool imo.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Ace of Baes posted:

actually the time would be next year, at the national convention, I doubt it will happen though, unfortunately

lol

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the dsa will never be safe until we have our own car-based violence action squads. gentlemen, its time to weld that cool cattle catcher onto your frame

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

GunnerJ posted:

Regional-level structures would be cool imo.

Working on it. Rust Belt convention slated for this summer!

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

GunnerJ posted:

Regional-level structures would be cool imo.

regional caucuses with member population based delegation allocation per chapter updated annually with quarterly online meetings imo

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
the big cities will always have more sway and influence as long as the org is Democratic though, sorry to break to you

gtrmp
Sep 29, 2008

Oba-Ma... Oba-Ma! Oba-Ma, aasha deh!

Ace of Baes posted:

the big cities will always have more sway and influence as long as the org is Democratic though, sorry to break to you

Thats some nicely Freudian capitalization there

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

gtrmp posted:

Thats some nicely Freudian capitalization there

it's actually autocorrect on my phone

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
DSA southern caucus proposal to count "urban" voters as 3/5th as rural voters

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.
We've crossed the twitter transition point between "That's insensitive" to "Tattoo the mark of the beast on your forehead, I am your eternal nemesis, you will never apologize correctly, you should be fired, you should kill yourself".

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS

gtrmp posted:

Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve entirely around your irony-poisoned twitter feuds. Like you weren't quoting some rando who was looking to pick a fight, you quoted the co-chair of DSA Charlottesville, where people have a pretty loving legitimate reason to not want to joke about their comrades getting hit by cars. It's not at all unreasonable for someone in her position to ask for an apology, which is why one of the two people she specifically asked to apologize did so after that tweet. Empathy isn't exactly difficult, you know; most people figure it out by the time they've learned how to work doorknobs.

I mean she demanded an apology from everyone who laughed at the joke which is absolutely not reasonable.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

https://twitter.com/micahuetricht/status/995433601775882241


This is the song that never ends...

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/723206481412165634?s=19

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