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miscellaneous14 posted:I can't stand the fact that because I don't bro out and go drinking with idiots like him, it'll take me twice as long to get anywhere as it would for anyone else. It's been about 10 years since I've graduated high school and I've been treated better by fellow high schoolers back then, than I do now with my fellow coworkers. This includes college students, people my age, and people older than me. It makes me so mad that EVERY loving DAY I have to hear about it.
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Ornamented Death posted:Literally everyone bitching in this thread works in the private sector I'd threaten to cancel at this point. Maybe they'd stop loving you around if you said you wanted all your money back and went somewhere else. I know that usually works at my store. Be prepared to go through with it though because there are tons of places who would be glad to have your money and business instead.
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Robzor McFabulous posted:As for the "socialise for promotions" thing, I guess you have to put yourself in the manager's position. Given a selection of people to choose from, do you pick the friendly sociable guy you've had plenty of face time with, or the quiet guy who is never social and doesn't seem to have good people skills or whatever? Logically, you pick the guy who does literally twice the amount of work than everyone else, constantly communicates any issues to managers, and is always seen to be extremely friendly with customers. It's not that I'm not friendly with the managers, no, it's literally just because I don't have a favorite football team or whatever that's causing me to be overlooked. Additionally, they originally told me I don't need to be a runner-supervisor to become a server, but that was pretty much a loving lie. And I don't understand why either, as "showing strong leadership skills and hard work" has absolutely nothing to do with being a server there, half the time they do the bare minimum that they have to do and then sit around on their rear end the other half. They can't even be bothered to actually ask people if they want sugar with their tea/coffee and just let us have to deal with it. I'm already practically qualified for the position, why is it that I need to demonstrate skills that I won't need for the job? It's like if you applied to be a computer graphics designer, and they required you to be able to lift 100 pounds of weights to qualify for the job.
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miscellaneous14 posted:I simply don't believe that there could be any retail/food service other job in the world where 95% of everything wrong with it came from having to deal with horrible coworkers. Sure, I get annoying customers often enough, but it's absolutely nothing compared to basically working in a high-school environment. No that's pretty much the way it is... you can have the "shittiest" job in the world but work with cool people and it's great and you can have the "best" job in the world and work with horrible pricks and it's terrible. I worked in an insurance company's post room for 3 years after animating video games just because my manager and supervisor always had my back, therefore I had no stress and my coworkers were cool too. Then there was a merger, we were put under a new boss and supervisor who were idiots, the new team were angry, bitter cunts and I handed in my notice after a month. Same loving job, but I couldn't do it for a second longer.
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miscellaneous14 posted:Logically, you pick the guy who does literally twice the amount of work than everyone else, constantly communicates any issues to managers, and is always seen to be extremely friendly with customers. It's not that I'm not friendly with the managers, no, it's literally just because I don't have a favorite football team or whatever that's causing me to be overlooked. Part of getting promoted means making the managers feel comfortable with you and the other staff as well. The "culture" at your place is very bro, and you know how threatened bros are by anything non-bro.  says they're the kind of guys who throw trash at cyclists for fun because it's some kind of challenge to their lite beer and pickup trucks lifestyle. They're not open minded at all so you won't fit in unless you become someone else and gently caress that, this is certainly not worth it.quote:I'm already practically qualified for the position, why is it that I need to demonstrate skills that I won't need for the job? It's like if you applied to be a computer graphics designer, and they required you to be able to lift 100 pounds of weights to qualify for the job. Everything's politics and everyone can get away with it because nothing will ever be in writing so they can deny it all. They can overlook or enforce any BS qualifications they want to justify their decisions and picking a fight about it is a great way to make things worse. It's total bullshit and it's definitely unfair but that's the way it is and you need to keep looking until you find some kind of place where the culture is better.
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Well, I guess I shouldn't complain too much. My friend, who's been 'working' for free for some months at her friend's store, has been around about a day or so a week. However, she spent the last day 'off' at the store still. Why? Because she lives at home, and her parents are pissed she isn't bringing in money like she used to. There has been talk of kicking her out of the house. But friend is still pissed that it's come to that so she is avoiding them; don't they (and we, I guess) UNDERSTAND? Her friend NEEDS HER HELP. If he didn't get some money from his own family, the store would have gone under! If he doesn't get free labor from her and some of their mutual friends who also don't have jobs, then the store will go under! He can't pay them because of the robbery and if he did, the store will go under! No one understands how important this store is, apparently. It just drives me loving bonkers. I cannot wrap my mind around not having money, needing money, and rather than getting even a lovely job to make it, working for free at a friend's store because he needs the help or the store will go under. She says the store is insanely busy these days, but apparently the store will go under if she isn't there all the time, and she doesn't want to be at home because her parents might throw her out, and she can't afford to move out anyway. But this 'job' is super important because she gets out of the house and gets to hang with her friends and is helping her one friend out a lot! I mean, it's not like a normal paying job would leave her any time to hang with her friends or go see movies with them or anything. Nope! She wakes up in the morning, takes the bus in (or he picks her up), works all day, and goes home after 9pm, sometimes staying out and over at his place to watch movies all night with the rest of the crew. Repeat cycle. And she wonders why her parents are pissed?
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Ornamented Death posted:Literally everyone bitching in this thread works in the private sector I had a similar problem with Best Buy. We were shopping for a TV. We found one, only they didn't have any in the store, so they were placing a order for it and scheduled a delivery for the next week. They called the day of delivery to say it hadn't shipped out and were placing a new order with a new delivery date the next week. The second week, we got the same story, at which point we found the TV on Amazon, and 'returned' the undelivered TV, and got it shipped from Amazon earlier then their latest promise delivery date.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Nope! She wakes up in the morning, takes the bus in (or he picks her up), works all day, and goes home after 9pm, sometimes staying out and over at his place to watch movies all night with the rest of the crew. Repeat cycle. And she wonders why her parents are pissed? You need to present to her an ultimatum. Not of something you're going to do, no, but what's going to happen to her if she keeps foolishly taking this lying assholes' word for it; either she's going to find actually-paying work somewhere like she should, or get kicked out, and at best the manager of this place MIGHT put her up somewhere lovely to live or possibly at his place, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was the skeezy-type. At this point you need to flat-out say that she's being stupid about this, the way she's going will not lead anywhere good. greazeball posted:
Close enough, the guy who pisses me off so much has a wife and a kid, but still blows hundreds of dollars on tattoos, drinking, and going out partying. The rest of the servers constantly talk about the pot they scored or got caught with recently (do it if you want, just don't talk about that poo poo in the same room as me). The manager are at least adults about most things, but they're basically just grown-up versions of these people, so it's clear who they favor over anyone else. The Baroness posted:I had a similar problem with Best Buy. We were shopping for a TV. We found one, only they didn't have any in the store, so they were placing a order for it and scheduled a delivery for the next week. They called the day of delivery to say it hadn't shipped out and were placing a new order with a new delivery date the next week. The second week, we got the same story, at which point we found the TV on Amazon, and 'returned' the undelivered TV, and got it shipped from Amazon earlier then their latest promise delivery date. The moral of the story is don't ever shop at Best Buy. Even during Black Friday, they couldn't bother doing any decent markdowns on anything worthwhile.
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I know I shouldn't really judge, but... I work in a sewing/yarn store. Today we got this clearly intoxicated homeless guy come in. It's not too strange to see homeless people come in, buying thread to patch up their clothes or something. Our shop is by a few homeless shelters and for the most part it doesn't bother me. This guy, though. He interrupts me helping a very nice customer, sticks his driver's license in our faces and goes, "HI I JUST HAD A BEER BECAUSE I BROKE MY ANKLE, SEE? HERE'S THE ID FROM THE HOSPITAL (he shows us his wristband) I'M A GOOD GUY AND I NEED $2 TO GET TO (some place nearby) WHERE I LIVE CAN YOU HELP ME." This isn't the first time this has happened - I once had another punk come in and ask me to put $40 on a Sears card so he could eat. Huh? Why do people think I'll just open the register and hand them money? I get that these people are probably mentally ill or intoxicated, but I don't think anyone, ill or not, would think a business would just hand cash over to them. Even if I was asked politely I wouldn't give anyone money from my register. Bleh, it doesn't bother me as much as I'm not really sure what people are thinking. This guy wasn't even asking for food, he was asking for train money (for a train that would have cost more than $2)
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Robzor McFabulous posted:"I DID try other channels! THEY were fine, but what's the point if the one I want has the problem?!" Quiet doesn't always equal "doesn't seem to have good people skills" - it could just as likely mean, "I'm in AA and don't want to be around people doing nothing but drink" or "I'm going to school" or "I have twin newborns and my wife really needs me at home" or simply "I've done my 8-12 hours, I'm going home". This is why good management has regular reviews based on known rubrics. That way the bosses can collect and go over data on the achievement of a particular employee. The face time is there, every one knows where they stand, and as a benefit to management - employees are clear as to what exactly what they need to do to get that bonus or raise. If managers just pick their drinking buddy, they're lazy as gently caress and most likely throwing developing talent out the window.
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My friend says I'm pretty much guaranteed an interview where he works, so despite having to drive four hours to get there (I'd move if I got the job), I'm super-jazzed about this opportunity. Though I'd feel like an rear end in a top hat if I got a job this easily after all the work TShields has been putting towards getting one. 
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miscellaneous14 posted:My friend says I'm pretty much guaranteed an interview where he works, so despite having to drive four hours to get there (I'd move if I got the job), I'm super-jazzed about this opportunity. Though I'd feel like an rear end in a top hat if I got a job this easily after all the work TShields has been putting towards getting one. I'm in the same boat, but it's for an art studio, and the bad thing about art studios is it's all about knowing someone. 
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Don't worry about little ol' me..  Had to take a couple days off of job-hunting. My fiance's grandmother died on Friday, which wasn't unexpected- she was diagnosed with brain cancer in December and it rapidly took over. So we've been busy with her family. The hiring manager from CafePress comes back from her vacation on Wednesday, so maybe a call-back soon.. And there's another place I applied that I need to call on Wednesday as well. Anyone ever seen that episode of "Battlestar Galactica" from really early in the current run where the Cylons show up every 33 minutes for 5 days? The whole time the crew is running without sleep, just saying "Maybe this next time will be the one will be the last time.." I just keep thinking about that.. "Maybe this next one will be the one that lands.."
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Shnooks posted:  TShields posted:Don't worry about little ol' me.. quote:Anyone ever seen that episode of "Battlestar Galactica" from really early in the current run where the Cylons show up every 33 minutes for 5 days? The whole time the crew is running without sleep, just saying "Maybe this next time will be the one will be the last time.." I just keep thinking about that.. "Maybe this next one will be the one that lands.." 
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Mar 22, 2011 09:21
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miscellaneous14 posted:Logically, you pick the guy who does literally twice the amount of work than everyone else, constantly communicates any issues to managers, and is always seen to be extremely friendly with customers. It's not that I'm not friendly with the managers, no, it's literally just because I don't have a favorite football team or whatever that's causing me to be overlooked. No, you lead those people on with a carrot and a stick for as long as possible, keeping your managerial bonus high. It works because the productive ones are usually the most gullible anyway.
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Solkanar512 posted:Quiet doesn't always equal "doesn't seem to have good people skills" I know it doesn't, but unfortunately you risk giving people that impression if you consistently refuse to be sociable with your higher-ups. They can only go on what they see, and if they see several people who they view as fun, sociable types that'll be what they remember. The quiet guy who may well work really hard but his only interaction with management is to bring them problems, well, that's what they'll remember about him. Good management may well do it better, but we're not talking about good management here.
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The odd thing is, one of the managers I'm really friendly with, I can't think of a time he hasn't helped me out. One of the other ones told me I don't go "fast enough" during busy time of the day, which basically means I can't carry literally two 30-or-so-pound trays in both hands, and trying to balance them halfway down a long hallway. I've always found it to be extremely impractical, as it generally slows down everyone else having to help them out with doing it. And let me be clear, this is something the servers never do. They rarely ever run food or drink, hell, some of them are too loving lazy to even do the jobs they're supposed to. And to elaborate more on that, said manager who I'm on really good terms with has to constantly crack down on them because they treat everyone under them like poo poo, even though they get paid to do half the work. All of the tremendous douche ones will never ever take fault for something they did wrong, or snap at you for a tiny mistake. A couple of them even went to the extent of making fun of me for having long-hair. It's basically high school but worse somehow. I wouldn't mind if it was a bigger place, but it's just so goddamn cramped and you absolutely cannot get away from the people you hate, ever. I desperately hope I get this new job.
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miscellaneous14 posted:I wouldn't mind if it was a bigger place, but it's just so goddamn cramped and you absolutely cannot get away from the people you hate, ever. I desperately hope I get this new job. Mmm, it sounds like you've got problems well beyond just crappy managers who can't see your potential. I hope you land the job too!
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spankmeister posted:So what did you do about the homeless guy? I REQUIRE CLOSURE! I just told him I can't open the register because I'd lose my job. He stalked off angrily. The guy with the Sears card, I was so shocked I got my manager (who can be a huge loving bitch) and basically told him if he needed food there's a bunch of shelters and food banks nearby that give out food (this is true).
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Robzor McFabulous posted:Good management may well do it better, but we're not talking about good management here. Indeed.
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Getting anxious. Our friend talked to the hiring manager at the CafePress job, who was back in today after her vacation, and we may both be getting phone calls soon. Staying hopeful.
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^ Good looking out! So here's a nice one. Helped a guy at the CS desk. When we were done he pulled a big bottle of fish oil capsules out of his backpack and CHEWED about six of them, one at a time, right in front of me. I have never heard it recommended that you chew those things, and now I know why. The reek was loving unreal. Guy just stood there, chomping and smiling vaguely, and when he was done he put the bottle away and left. The smell hung in the air for a good half-hour after that. I had to explain what had happened to customers who were practically gagging, lest they think the odor was me. Fortunately, most of them agreed with me that WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT. WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
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spite house posted:The smell hung in the air for a good half-hour after that. Funny thing is he was eating rancid fish oil because it doesn't really have a strong odor, so it wasn't any good for him either.
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I've had the pdf of the sample resume on my desktop for weeks. Never really looked at it, kept thinking "I'll have a look soon, I've got time". I opened it today to use as a basis for my own, because I just got denied a bump in pay to bring me up to the other two in my department, even though I'm the most proficient at the computer AND the only one providing suggestions on how to improve business. Just because I haven't been there as long. Hello, breaking point.
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I heard this week that the girl they promoted to Starbucks manager instead of me a few months ago is leaving to go back to do backroom stuff. The reason I heard for her stepping down was that she didn't have enough time for the classes she was taking, which is exactly one of the reasons I told them she wasn't a good fit for the position. The fact that she is constantly being overwhelmed and is terrible at it probably also had something to do with it. Feels good to be right, but bad to know that they still won't offer me the position even though I'm still the top candidate
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Mar 25, 2011 08:04
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I have an interview with the Home Depot in a few hours for cashier or cart attendant. Any tips?
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Strangelv posted:I have an interview with the Home Depot in a few hours for cashier or cart attendant. Any tips? Run. Run while you still can. Save yourself.  Just kidding, just try to relax, hope the interview goes well.
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Strangelv posted:I have an interview with the Home Depot in a few hours for cashier or cart attendant. Any tips? Be a cashier if you can. Being a cart attendant sucks. people are lazy and always need loading. If you don't finish putting the carts up by the time your shift ends, even if it was super duper busy and the mid shift guy didn't come in, you get in trouble for "wanting" to leave when your shift is scheduled to leave. As far as advice goes, wear nice pants and a button up/ polo shirt. Pretend to be the super anything for the customer person.
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Thanks, callous rear end in a top hat who decided to dump my geek-goddess cashier last night. Now I have to try to comfort her all night because she "doesn't want to be alone" while I'm working on the floor. The first thing she did when she came in was walk towards me, start crying, and hug me.. This is going to be an uncomfortable night of work...
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spankmeister posted:Sounds like a pretty good chance of catching her on the rebound. Oh for gently caress's sake, there's more to life than getting laid and if he goes for her on the rebound they'll both most likely regret it. Just be supportive without being a creep.
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Octofoot posted:Oh for gently caress's sake, there's more to life than getting laid and if he goes for her on the rebound they'll both most likely regret it. I was joking.... e: Besides, you haven't lived if you don't regret at least one of your sexual encounters. 
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Octofoot posted:Oh for gently caress's sake, there's more to life than getting laid and if he goes for her on the rebound they'll both most likely regret it. Don't listen to this guy. He is always a chick's "friend".
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I'm also engaged, so there's that... That said, if I WASN'T, I'd totally be into this girl, but I don't do rebounds.. EDIT: Awkward night, as expected... Dear lord, the things I didn't need to know.
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You know, I always heard stories of people making GBS threads on the sales floor. Always some comical thing where an adult drops trow and lays a Cleveland Steamer on the tile floor. But I always said, nah we aren't that ghetto, we may have piss on the floor, but that's from little kids, there's no way dookie is going to end up on the ground. Until we found a few turds laying on the floor in a few different aisles.
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A lady in line for the return register nonchalantly takes of her tracksuit top on a chilly fall day and ties it around her waist. 2 minutes later the smell of poo poo overwhelms your nostrils. 5 minutes later she is still standing in the return line. Patiently waiting. I never thought that someone would come along to top the sweaty boob money lady and the smelling like piss drunk people.
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Fury1671 posted:You know, I always heard stories of people making GBS threads on the sales floor. Always some comical thing where an adult drops trow and lays a Cleveland Steamer on the tile floor. When I used to work at the petrol station I was warned well in advance about the local Fair and the inevitable descent of gypsies/travellers/whatever you want to call them. Everyone hated them, they'd cause trouble, steal stuff and were generally a nightmare. I was told to always tell them our customer toilet was out of order and leave it locked, because every time someone had let them in, they'd trashed it. They smelled absolutely awful, so I had to stop myself from wincing as this large guy asked me where our toilet was. I told him it was broken, and he promptly walked out onto the forecourt, dropped his trousers and laid one right there in front of everyone.
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Robzor McFabulous posted:When I used to work at the petrol station I was warned well in advance about the local Fair and the inevitable descent of gypsies/travellers/whatever you want to call them. Everyone hated them, they'd cause trouble, steal stuff and were generally a nightmare. I was told to always tell them our customer toilet was out of order and leave it locked, because every time someone had let them in, they'd trashed it. They smelled absolutely awful, so I had to stop myself from wincing as this large guy asked me where our toilet was. I told him it was broken, and he promptly walked out onto the forecourt, dropped his trousers and laid one right there in front of everyone. I have to pick up the trash from the bathrooms every night, just to make sure it's clear for in the morning, and we have small trash cans in the stalls in the women's room. Well, as you may or may not know, in some Latin American countries, their toilets are too weak to handle the vigorous flushing that we do here in America, so instead of flushing their.. paper down with the rest, they have trash cans by their toilets.. and they throw the paper in here. Guess what some of our more recent immigrants don't realize yet? ...yeah... Almost nightly, I have to clean up poo paper from the women's room. Women are gross.
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